I've skipped a few pages, so maybe this has been clarified. But when the OP says "the n word" my mind immediately translates what that word is inside my brain. If someone refers to "n*****" without the astrick my mind skips the translation. So either way, word is in my head. If she was discussing the fact that she was upset the word is used, how is that racist?
this is pretty dimiishing. Not that I always read every response to every post before responding, but this issue? This thread? I feel like every word of every response will expand my understanding. But to answer your quwstion, maybe we can have a list of situations where it's not hurtful to WOC? Hint: shortest list ever.
I've skipped a few pages, so maybe this has been clarified. But when the OP says "the n word" my mind immediately translates what that word is inside my brain. If someone refers to "n*****" without the astrick my mind skips the translation. So either way, word is in my head. If she was discussing the fact that she was upset the word is used, how is that racist?
You can tell us, you're kidding with this bs, right?
Post by Mrs. Meerkat on Sept 15, 2016 20:09:40 GMT -5
I've kept my mouth shut on a lot of these posts because I still feel so new here and that my opinion means jack shit.
But.
I can't.
Not with this. I liked Tamb, but over the last year or so, with all the fuckery that went down, there is no way in hell that typing that word out should have ever crossed her mind or left her fingertips.
I'm a privileged white woman, who I am sure has more than likely made many, many mistakes in dealing with issues of race. I am truly learning so much from this board. I know it sounds like lip service, but I am in a ridiculously backwoods racist bubble of a county and everything I have read here--articles, links, personal experiences--have helped me recognize my privilege and try to help those around me realize just how racist we all can be.
I'm sorry that my newfound knowledge has had to come at the expense of several WOC that I like and respect.
I agree that Tamb should just stay gone at this point.
ETA: I just reread what I posted and realized there was a lot about me in there when it shouldn't have been. I'm sorry again....
Post by noodleskooze on Sept 15, 2016 20:10:21 GMT -5
I also think all of us white people need to think harder about what @stilljustash pointed out upthread and what other WOC have been saying for a while. The WOC are the ones catching all this stuff and pointing it out. AND YET:
It's wasn't until a white poster called people out on MMM that people noticed or cared.
It wasn't until a white poster called people out on ML that people noticed or cared.
It wasn't until a white poster called people out on April 2012 that people noticed or cared.
This just isn't right, guys. PLENTY OF US ARE SEEING THESE HATEFUL WORDS ABD POSTS. Either you don't notice it, WHICH IS BAD, or you leave it for someone else to call out, WHICH IS BAD.
No definitely a preference for the younger one. The older one annoys her non-stop.
Which is funny because it is the exact dynamic she has with her mom that she complains about. She is the older one and her sister is the younger loved one.
The treatment of J has bugged me for a really long time. I feel bad for her that there is going to Be a third sibling to overshadow her.
Post by ciescalove on Sept 15, 2016 20:16:32 GMT -5
Holy shit. I'd share a couple stories about my family who "aren't racist" and how I still fucking know better than to use that word (or any other slur) in any context, but this shit isn't about me. Holy shit.
Post by lovelyshoes on Sept 15, 2016 20:19:15 GMT -5
Don't overanalyze stuff trying to show how much better or more revolved you're. Just don't be an asshole! And if you're an ass, shut up, no one needs to hear your thoughts. At least we're cleaning house.
Omg. Holy shit. I apologize to my WOC friends that I haven't been here in support. I'm drowning at work and at home and just haven't been on much and wasn't aware of what was going on.
You deserve better. I'm so sorry this is what we've given you.
I wouldn't write it out. I wouldn't say it. I don't think that Tamb would call someone that word. I think she deserves another chance. You can flame me. She has a really good heart and is the type to change.
Bitch, no.
Typing out the n-word is in no way indicative of a "good heart". Particularly after defending racists over the years.
I don't go here but FUCK YOU with this bullshit defense.
What do the WOC of GBCN deserve?
QFT The GBCN WOC deserve so much better than having to deal with all of this racist BS. I truly hope that we can become a better place where all members of the group are made to feel welcome, valued and respected.
No definitely a preference for the younger one. The older one annoys her non-stop.
Which is funny because it is the exact dynamic she has with her mom that she complains about. She is the older one and her sister is the younger loved one.
The treatment of J has bugged me for a really long time. I feel bad for her that there is going to Be a third sibling to overshadow her.
I could feel how annoyed she was with J all the time. And when she would complain about her, it was just normal kid/toddler stuff. But in the next sentence it was how great E was and how she would sleep, stay quiet, etc.
I stopped going into those posts. It was uncomfortable to watch.
St Pete, this is what happens when you verge outside your area of expertise. When we start a thread on breezy one night stands and possible sex addictions, we'll page you.
Post by pandora89 on Sept 15, 2016 20:28:26 GMT -5
Seriously wtf is this shit. How is this appropriate? How is this ever appropriate? How in this day and age are people still trying to justify and reason for using that word. Why are white people given the benefit of the doubt over and over again while POC are not?
Oh I have a fun Scotty story! Who remembers when she was all pissed off that she couldn't just go scoop up a Haitian orphan after the big earthquake? She was so offended. This is an actual quote: "I've held a black child and knew that I could mother it."
Also We have all handled tamb with kid gloves around here. None of us are innocent. When was the last time she got push back on annnyyything much less race relations. We have allowed her to peace out on every single heavy topic all while talking about fucking kid clothes and her desire to only have little girls*.
*yes this has pissed me off too
But anyways I feel guilty for not checking her. I have noticed for a long time that we let her just participate in the fluff and still be loved.
Post by hungrycaterpillar on Sept 15, 2016 20:31:09 GMT -5
This is disgusting. Who the hell do you think you are? Tamb? Scotty? 32flavors? What is wrong with you? This is sick and twisted behavior. How can you people be raising children in this world?