Neither. Pence sucks, but I already knew that. I'm a bit sad that Kaine was so easily baited to go down to Pence's level. Plus the interruption and the fact that he kept harping on the taxes when there are so many other things to go at him for. The whole thing was kind of a train wreck.
Post by turnipthebeet on Oct 4, 2016 21:44:53 GMT -5
When I was browsing the Donald subreddit earlier, it was clear that one of their biggest pushes is to flood the polls after debates to show Trump/Pence winning.
Post by froggyfarts2point0 on Oct 4, 2016 21:44:57 GMT -5
I'm waffling. Kaine started weak in my opinion, but he landed a lot of punches to Trump and Pence. I think Kaine did an alright job at policy. I'm also heavily in love with his response on religion and politics.
I feel like Pence did a better job overall at being cordial and staying on policy, but he also did a terrible job at defending Trump. He was miserable at landing effective punches to Hillary's campaign in my opinion, but I don't jump at the Benghazi/emails thing so those were unimpressive to me. I think the closest he came to a good punch was the basket.
I think the moderator did amazing compared to Lester though. She just powered on when both of them were getting out of hand and was able to redirect them quite a few times, in rather a faster way than Trump/Clinton were able to be corralled.
ITK scored points on the trusting women thing at the end, hands down. Pence won most of the 'don't interrupt and stay calm' points.
For me personally, I of course still agree with ITK on the policies he represents. But I don't think he won. It's 'neither' at best, Pence won at worst. But I can't stand that smarmy asshole, so I had to go with neither. But I won't argue with the nationwide poll results if they say Pence won. Because seriously, stop with the interrupting. I'm glad Clinton is running and not ITK. I'm also kind of glad Trump is running and not Pence because it might be a closer election at this point otherwise. And I just threw up a little typing that.
I think Pence's dismissal of Mexicans at the end was bad and going all in on repealing Roe v Wade and controlling women's bodies certainly did not play well with me. I think his delivery was smoother, but he lied about everything, so...