I'm getting my hair done this morning. I love love love my stylist, but a man I assume is the owner of the salon is having a loud conversation about how great Trump and the Republicans are and how stupid and liars the Democrats are (the Russian hacking is all a made up lie, etc). So WWYD? I don't want to lose my stylist (who doesn't share these views) but I know as owner he's getting part of my money and I can't support this.
Post by jillboston on Dec 17, 2016 11:43:54 GMT -5
I'd want to let the owner know that his yapping is going to cost him business. I am confrontational so I'd probably say it as I was leaving. As calmly as I could- but would let him know while he is certainly allowed to have all the opinions he'd like that spouting them off in his place of business is going to cost him money. If you don't want to do it face to face send an email or letter. I wouldn't be able to tolerate that kind of atmosphere no matter how great the haircut. I feel really badly for your stylist though... Maybe you could ask him or her whether they could do your hair outside of the shop?
I'm in kind of a similar position. The barber shop my son and husband go to is owned by this elderly Italian man. His son also works there and he (the son) and another barber have spoken about how they love Trump. My son's barber hasn't said anything but I'm not sure if he shares these opinions. It bothers me so much.
Why do we keep entertaining these threads? Does anyone really believe the answer is going to change based on whether it's your drunk uncle, stylist, dentist, friend from high school you never speak to except on facebook, etc.?
Why do we keep entertaining these threads? Does anyone really believe the answer is going to change based on whether it's your drunk uncle, stylist, dentist, friend from high school you never speak to except on facebook, etc.?
I agree that the conversation between us is a little (a lot?) tired. That's because we know the right answer, we just want someone to tell us it's ok to continue on and do the wrong answer, because that's what we really want to hear.
I think it's important to hit Trump supporters where they live. In their wallet. And I think you should absolutely tell them. You can tell someone they have lost your business and why without having to be confrontational. You can also do it on the phone or via email. I do think it's important to let a business know why you're leaving them.
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
I'm kind of where you are but my stylist is the raging trump supporter. I've consoled myself by donating to the DNC or PP after each appointment.
Well as long as your highlights look good
Yeah, it's not quite as simple as that. I'm also friends with her and I have 2 friends who work for her, one of whom is her daughter. I have been extremely vocal with her about my position but I'm not willing to pitch friendships over this election.
So next time maybe you should not be a judge mental bitch while going off minimal information.
ETA: and lol at my having highlights. Clearly you're new here.
Write an email and post a public review. See if they contact you to address it. Perhaps it wasn't the owner - maybe a day manager or the owner's brother or something. If you think there's a chance you could be won back, address it. If not, go elsewhere.
I guess the final answer depends on how certain you are of your assumptions and what kind of area you live in. Are other people going to care if you blast them on Yelp?
There's also the issue of your stylist. She likely rents her chair for the same cost, regardless of whether you book with her or not. It's not feasible to tell people, "just go get another job," when your boss is terrible, doing something illegal, or a Trump supporter. I'd hate for her to be out if work because her boss is a dick. That's not her fault, so I understand the struggle.
Yeah, it's not quite as simple as that. I'm also friends with her and I have 2 friends who work for her, one of whom is her daughter. I have been extremely vocal with her about my position but I'm not willing to pitch friendships over this election.
So next time maybe you should not be a judge mental bitch while going off minimal information.
ETA: and lol at my having highlights. Clearly you're new here.
Well I guess that's where we differ. I certainly am and have been willing to pitch friendships over this election. You asked for our opinions and we shared it. Keep on keepin on, since it seems like your mind is already made up.
Yeah, it's not quite as simple as that. I'm also friends with her and I have 2 friends who work for her, one of whom is her daughter. I have been extremely vocal with her about my position but I'm not willing to pitch friendships over this election.
So next time maybe you should not be a judge mental bitch while going off minimal information.
ETA: and lol at my having highlights. Clearly you're new here.
Well I guess that's where we differ. I certainly am and have been willing to pitch friendships over this election. You asked for our opinions and we shared it. Keep on keepin on, since it seems like your mind is already made up.
I didn't ask for anyone's opinions as I'm not the OP.
Yeah, it's not quite as simple as that. I'm also friends with her and I have 2 friends who work for her, one of whom is her daughter. I have been extremely vocal with her about my position but I'm not willing to pitch friendships over this election.
So next time maybe you should not be a judge mental bitch while going off minimal information.
ETA: and lol at my having highlights. Clearly you're new here.
If you're not willing to pitch a friendship with a "raging Trump supporter," than I can't help you with your guilty feelings over it. Ffs have some standards.
Well I guess that's where we differ. I certainly am and have been willing to pitch friendships over this election. You asked for our opinions and we shared it. Keep on keepin on, since it seems like your mind is already made up.
I didn't ask for anyone's opinions as I'm not the OP.
My apologies for making that assumption. I stand by the rest.
Write an email and post a public review. See if they contact you to address it. Perhaps it wasn't the owner - maybe a day manager or the owner's brother or something. If you think there's a chance you could be won back, address it. If not, go elsewhere.
I guess the final answer depends on how certain you are of your assumptions and what kind of area you live in. Are other people going to care if you blast them on Yelp?
There's also the issue of your stylist. She likely rents her chair for the same cost, regardless of whether you book with her or not. It's not feasible to tell people, "just go get another job," when your boss is terrible, doing something illegal, or a Trump supporter. I'd hate for her to be out if work because her boss is a dick. That's not her fault, so I understand the struggle.
This. My stylist is so sweet and does a great job. She's an immigrant and just starting out so she's trying to build up her clientele. I don't want to hurt her because of the owner but at the same time damn do I not want him getting my money.
Yeah, it's not quite as simple as that. I'm also friends with her and I have 2 friends who work for her, one of whom is her daughter. I have been extremely vocal with her about my position but I'm not willing to pitch friendships over this election.
So next time maybe you should not be a judge mental bitch while going off minimal information.
ETA: and lol at my having highlights. Clearly you're new here.
If you're not willing to pitch a friendship with a "raging Trump supporter," than I can't help you with your guilty feelings over it. Ffs have some standards.
i don't recall asking for help. thanks.
i live in a red town in a blue state. if i didn't frequent businesses run by trump supporters i wouldn't be able to go food shopping, have my car repaired, have my plumbing fixed, or a million other things that happen around here. it's the reality of living here.
Write an email and post a public review. See if they contact you to address it. Perhaps it wasn't the owner - maybe a day manager or the owner's brother or something. If you think there's a chance you could be won back, address it. If not, go elsewhere.
I guess the final answer depends on how certain you are of your assumptions and what kind of area you live in. Are other people going to care if you blast them on Yelp?
There's also the issue of your stylist. She likely rents her chair for the same cost, regardless of whether you book with her or not. It's not feasible to tell people, "just go get another job," when your boss is terrible, doing something illegal, or a Trump supporter. I'd hate for her to be out if work because her boss is a dick. That's not her fault, so I understand the struggle.
This. My stylist is so sweet and does a great job. She's an immigrant and just starting out so she's trying to build up her clientele. I don't want to hurt her because of the owner but at the same time damn do I not want him getting my money.
You could find out if hes the owner. If he is, see if she would be willing to do your hair outside of the salon.
I'd want to let the owner know that his yapping is going to cost him business. I am confrontational so I'd probably say it as I was leaving. As calmly as I could- but would let him know while he is certainly allowed to have all the opinions he'd like that spouting them off in his place of business is going to cost him money. If you don't want to do it face to face send an email or letter. I wouldn't be able to tolerate that kind of atmosphere no matter how great the haircut. I feel really badly for your stylist though... Maybe you could ask him or her whether they could do your hair outside of the shop?
so I did mention something to the receptionist when she asked if I wanted to make another appointment and I said no and why.
Write an email and post a public review. See if they contact you to address it. Perhaps it wasn't the owner - maybe a day manager or the owner's brother or something. If you think there's a chance you could be won back, address it. If not, go elsewhere.
I guess the final answer depends on how certain you are of your assumptions and what kind of area you live in. Are other people going to care if you blast them on Yelp?
There's also the issue of your stylist. She likely rents her chair for the same cost, regardless of whether you book with her or not. It's not feasible to tell people, "just go get another job," when your boss is terrible, doing something illegal, or a Trump supporter. I'd hate for her to be out if work because her boss is a dick. That's not her fault, so I understand the struggle.
This. My stylist is so sweet and does a great job. She's an immigrant and just starting out so she's trying to build up her clientele. I don't want to hurt her because of the owner but at the same time damn do I not want him getting my money.
Do you have a way to contact your stylist outside of the salon? If so, I'd do that and confirm that he is the owner, if you are unsure. If he is, I'd tell her that I'm not willing to support his business anymore but that you are very happy with her as a stylist. Ask if she'll consider doing your hair on the side. If not, tell her that you'll have to find someone else but to please let you know if she changes salons. SaveSave
This. My stylist is so sweet and does a great job. She's an immigrant and just starting out so she's trying to build up her clientele. I don't want to hurt her because of the owner but at the same time damn do I not want him getting my money.
Do you have a way to contact your stylist outside of the salon? If so, I'd do that and confirm that he is the owner, if you are unsure. If he is, I'd tell her that I'm not willing to support his business anymore but that you are very happy with her as a stylist. Ask if she'll consider doing your hair on the side. If not, tell her that you'll have to find someone else but to please let you know if she changes salons. SaveSave
It is the owner. I Google and checked their site before I said anything. I think I'm going to try and contact her and let her know this.
If you're not willing to pitch a friendship with a "raging Trump supporter," than I can't help you with your guilty feelings over it. Ffs have some standards.
i don't recall asking for help. thanks.
i live in a red town in a blue state. if i didn't frequent businesses run by trump supporters i wouldn't be able to go food shopping, have my car repaired, have my plumbing fixed, or a million other things that happen around here. it's the reality of living here.
i suppose next you're going to tell me to move?
You didn't ask for help but you did indicate you felt bad about your choices. There's a big difference between conducting necessary business and maintaining friendship with a raging Trump supporter. Gross.
i live in a red town in a blue state. if i didn't frequent businesses run by trump supporters i wouldn't be able to go food shopping, have my car repaired, have my plumbing fixed, or a million other things that happen around here. it's the reality of living here.
i suppose next you're going to tell me to move?
You didn't ask for help but you did indicate you felt bad about your choices. There's a big difference between conducting necessary business and maintaining friendship with a raging Trump supporter. Gross.
I'm making the best choice for me. Not sorry at all. If my options are keeping an open dialogue with a friend of many years and hopefully counteracting some of the bullshit fake news she gets vs receiving validation from internet people I'll never meet then this just cements my choices. Dividing isn't helping anything. Ever since I read that piece about the white supremacist changing his mind after having an open dialogue with people he'd met its further cemented that cutting people off isn't how shit is going to get better.
If this had been my actual stylist that said this there would have been no question. I cut my dad out of my life over this election (and for other reasons but the trump live was the final straw) I was just feeling guilty over an innocent person feeling the negative effects because of her boss. She told me she wants to leave but doesn't have the clientele yet to do it.
Yeah, it's not quite as simple as that. I'm also friends with her and I have 2 friends who work for her, one of whom is her daughter. I have been extremely vocal with her about my position but I'm not willing to pitch friendships over this election.
So next time maybe you should not be a judge mental bitch while going off minimal information.
ETA: and lol at my having highlights. Clearly you're new here.
So what exactly are your standards? Where do you draw the line? Because it's not like maintaining a friendship with a republican if you're a democrat- this is someone you described as a raging Trump supporter. Just trying to figure out what level of racism/misogyny you're willing to ignore to get a good hair cut and not feel uncomfortable.
Yeah, it's not quite as simple as that. I'm also friends with her and I have 2 friends who work for her, one of whom is her daughter. I have been extremely vocal with her about my position but I'm not willing to pitch friendships over this election.
So next time maybe you should not be a judge mental bitch while going off minimal information.
ETA: and lol at my having highlights. Clearly you're new here.
So what exactly are your standards? Where do you draw the line? Because it's not like maintaining a friendship with a republican if you're a democrat- this is someone you described as a raging Trump supporter. Just trying to figure out what level of racism/misogyny you're willing to ignore to get a good hair cut and not feel uncomfortable.
My tolerance her for is apparently a lot higher than my tolerance for you and your bullshit attempt at a Gotcha question. As my aunt used to say, people like you play with yourself with both hands.
These are my neighbors and friends. I will not stop trying to keep a dialogue with them just to appease you and your moral superiority.
So what exactly are your standards? Where do you draw the line? Because it's not like maintaining a friendship with a republican if you're a democrat- this is someone you described as a raging Trump supporter. Just trying to figure out what level of racism/misogyny you're willing to ignore to get a good hair cut and not feel uncomfortable.
My tolerance her for is apparently a lot higher than my tolerance for you and your bullshit attempt at a Gotcha question. As my aunt used to say, people like you play with yourself with both hands.
These are my neighbors and friends. I will not stop trying to keep a dialogue with them just to appease you and your moral superiority.
you're some kind of buffoon. Over here mad because you put your own fool business out there for comment. Fuck outta here.
So what exactly are your standards? Where do you draw the line? Because it's not like maintaining a friendship with a republican if you're a democrat- this is someone you described as a raging Trump supporter. Just trying to figure out what level of racism/misogyny you're willing to ignore to get a good hair cut and not feel uncomfortable.
My tolerance her for is apparently a lot higher than my tolerance for you and your bullshit attempt at a Gotcha question. As my aunt used to say, people like you play with yourself with both hands.
These are my neighbors and friends. I will not stop trying to keep a dialogue with them just to appease you and your moral superiority.
So the answer is that you have more tolerance for actual racism than you have tolerance for someone questioning you about it. Got it.