I think judge all the people that are 9/11 whores about the whole thing that live in the midwest, have no family or friends that were anywhere near NYC that day and make post all day long about never forgetting.
yes it was a national tragedy but get the fuck over it person who never had any personal connection to anything in NYC pre 9/11
And I judge people that seem to believe that this event only happened in NYC and to NYers.
But all in all, I wonder how many years have to pass before this becomes yet another national day of sales deals.
I listened in horror and then nearly drove off the road when they dubbed in the voicemail a firefighter left his family before he went into the towers. The song they used? "Somebody That I Used to Know."
I honestly don't judge people's comments on FB that are reflective of that day. Nor do I judge people who post photos of the towers *before* 9/11, or other photos of remembrance, etc. If that's what people want to do, more power to them. But I just don't need to see "Never Forget" superimposed onto a picture of the towers consumed by fireballs. I just don't. And these are New Yorkers posting this shit and that makes me especially angry because, hello, we see 9/11-related things every day. Pictures of fireballs aren't necessary. Not wanting to see these images doesn't mean that we don't care about what happened that day or that we've forgotten. And yes, I know people can post whatever they want on FB, but I think posting those particular images is in poor taste.
Post by Daria Morgandorffer on Sept 11, 2012 10:18:30 GMT -5
I have at least 5 people so far posting a "where were u when u learned of 9/11" posts on FB. And yea, I swear that the only people that post that question are txtspkrs.
Why does everyone feel the need to post this stupid question every year? EVERY YEAR!
I think judge all the people that are 9/11 whores about the whole thing that live in the midwest, have no family or friends that were anywhere near NYC that day and make post all day long about never forgetting.
I hate living down south right now. People think I'm so horrible because I basically refuse to acknowledge the day here. No. Their experience of that day and mine were VERY different. And I'm not interested in playing the suffering Olympics over whose day was worse. But when a) the majority of them have never been to NYC and/or b) didn't lose people they knew that day, then I don't want to fucking talk about "remember" or see tacky ass pictures of bald eagles and flaming towers on FB.
I was feeling like an ass for having the same thoughts when I logged into Facebook
Me too. Especially because I had posted something funny about my DS. Then all the 9/11 posts started.
I'm kind of like "why? does it make you feel better to let everyone else know that YOU remember?". I remember, we all do. I don't really need to tell everyone I remember.
This is exactly what bothers me about the FB posts.
Post by pixy0stix on Sept 11, 2012 10:34:31 GMT -5
From Nuby USA facebook feed (the company that makes baby pacifiers and other crap): 9/11 GIVEAWAY! Comment and tell us where you were 11 years ago when the tragic events unfolded on our nation? 2 Winners will be selected at random today at 4:30pm CST to WIN a Red & Blue Nuby Flex Straw Cup!
From Nuby USA facebook feed (the company that makes baby pacifiers and other crap): 9/11 GIVEAWAY! Comment and tell us where you were 11 years ago when the tragic events unfolded on our nation? 2 Winners will be selected at random today at 4:30pm CST to WIN a Red & Blue Nuby Flex Straw Cup!
YES! Win free shit on 9/11! Awesome!
What says "solemn commemoration of the deaths of thousands" better than "win a free sippy cup!"?
From Nuby USA facebook feed (the company that makes baby pacifiers and other crap): 9/11 GIVEAWAY! Comment and tell us where you were 11 years ago when the tragic events unfolded on our nation? 2 Winners will be selected at random today at 4:30pm CST to WIN a Red & Blue Nuby Flex Straw Cup!
From Nuby USA facebook feed (the company that makes baby pacifiers and other crap): 9/11 GIVEAWAY! Comment and tell us where you were 11 years ago when the tragic events unfolded on our nation? 2 Winners will be selected at random today at 4:30pm CST to WIN a Red & Blue Nuby Flex Straw Cup!
YES! Win free shit on 9/11! Awesome!
And there are people actually answering.
Several hundred people.
I mean, I'm usually not someone to get worked up by this type of thing, but c'mon now.
nyc, pentagon and PA, to be fair. I know it wasn't just the towers.
Or how about the people actually ON the planes? Like my 4 co-workers from Boston (2 of whom moved there from the mid-west). I'm not trying to pick on you--your posts just hit a nerve that many FB posts have been hitting today.
i just judge friends and family with no personal connection to 9/11 whatsoever that are all baby jesus, crying bald eagles, rubble crosses about today
I judge this too, I just don't make assumptions on who might have had a personal connection and who doesn't. That said, not one single person I know that I *do* know has a personal connection has gone to the "baby jesus, crying bald eagles, rubble crosses about today" level.
I'm hoping I don't get too stabby today--I might post a "Never Forget April 18, 1983--oh, sorry most of you didn't notice something then in the first place, so how could you remember"
I came out of lurking to say THANK YOU for this thread.
I've felt this way for years...YEARS. I won't forget what happened but I don't need to rehash this every year. It makes me cynical when people post a where were you. It's almost like people are in competition with each other to see who was somehow "closer" to the events of that day.
Just came in from walking the dog and the weather is eerily very much like that morning. Not a cloud in the sky and one of those early crisp fall days. Glorious weather...that was my first thought this morning. But thanks Facebook, probably didn't need those flaming building pix either.
I was feeling like an ass for having the same thoughts when I logged into Facebook this morning and everything in my newsfeed was a giant picture of planes flying into flaming buildings. I'm trying not to judge people for how they remember something they were profoundly affected by, but yeah, I may stay off Facebook today.
I did judge my sister though. She posted about how upsetting today was for her. Child, you were in 2nd grade when this happened. I doubt you even remember most of it.
I judge that too. I have a close friend who lost her father in the north tower. She completely avoids all media on 9/11 because she doesn't want to deal with the fact that people who were barely affected by it at all are consistently reminding her of how her father died very suddenly, in a very public way.
Post by pixy0stix on Sept 11, 2012 11:02:35 GMT -5
When the gawdawful Pearl Harbor movie came out, I remember there being a lot of chatter about how the event would be depicted, etc. People are still sensitive to it.
nyc, pentagon and PA, to be fair. I know it wasn't just the towers.
Or how about the people actually ON the planes? Like my 4 co-workers from Boston (2 of whom moved there from the mid-west). I'm not trying to pick on you--your posts just hit a nerve that many FB posts have been hitting today.
i don't mean to sound snarky when i say this but they're usually counted in the numbers of where they died.
Post by ringstrue on Sept 11, 2012 11:07:11 GMT -5
OH and BTW if you aren't mourning enough from 9/11 they are also running a SLIDESHOW in our office conference of a woman who used to work here who died a year ago TODAY.
How about you just step back and do it your way... and let others do it their way.
Gawd forbid that some people deal with it with humor. Not acceptable! Your only forms of remembrance are intense navel gazing and crying hysterically!
I think tragedy whoring might be the phrase you're looking for. Making a spectacle of your "grief" on FB isn't grieving in "your own way," it's making sure everyone who knows you thinks you're deeply affected by that day. Because unless you're affected publically, I guess you aren't really feeling it ^o)
I fondly remember the tales my Grandmother would tell about the free Pearl Harbor Remembrance baby pacifier she got for my dad. We have it on display in a glass cabinet over the mantel to this day.
Okay, can I just direct the talk away from FB for a second? I was flipping stations on the radio while driving into work today and came across one station's Sept. 11 "tribute" that, no kidding, included hip hop, techno and dance music mixed in with audio soundbites from that day.
I listened in horror and then nearly drove off the road when they dubbed in the voicemail a firefighter left his family before he went into the towers. The song they used? "Somebody That I Used to Know."
I nearly drove off the road and I'm usually not bothered by stupid radio bits. It was just awful. Awful. Forget "empty gesture." It was just horrifying.
It depends on how long after Pearl Harbor you're talking about.
There are a lot of comparisons between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor that people like to make. There's a side of a building right off of the circle interchange in Chicago that says:
Dec. 7, 1941 Sept. 11, 2001. We will never forget.
Some of his comparisons are a little muddy - IMO, it's hard for a historian to really analyze events that are so relatively recent - but it was interesting.
Anyway, Pearl Harbor day was always a big day for my grandmother, who was 20 years old at the time, and whose brother was stationed with the army in Australia when it happened (she also had a husband and 6 BILs who fought in the war). Her brother actually died on Pearl Harbor Day in 1996, and I remember her bringing it up at the time. BUT I won't argue that there isn't a culture brought about by Web 2.0 of self-centeredness. Blogs, FB, youtube, etc - everything is about me, me, me. No one ever stops to think, "really, who gives a shit about my opinions of this?"
Post by thirstybeagle on Sept 11, 2012 11:19:50 GMT -5
Lurker here. One of my facebook friends is a marine. This was his status message today: "In memory of those we've killed the past 11 years, may they burn in hell." :-|
If I had to choose, I think I'd prefer the crying eagle shit.
Post by secretlyevil on Sept 11, 2012 11:20:25 GMT -5
YNWIT? Instead of pictures of burning buildings and crying eagles, wringing hands and moaning "why us?" a better way to remember today would be to just be a little kinder to your fellow American. Posts on fb, twitter, etc. are really just empty gestures.