Working as a woman can #suck

[WOT?*]

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/what-happened-when-a-man-signed-work-emails-using-a-female-name-for-a-week_us_58c2ce53e4b054a0ea6a4066

Man finds that his work quality went down, he was much more difficult to deal with and didn't know as much when he accidentally signed his emails with his female co-worker's signature block. I know we're all shocked to learn this. Kind of like the sky is blue and grass is green, right?

[cookiemdough]

I think if people could submit work unnamed for review it would drastically change some of the responses received. Unconscious bias is a huge impediment to success and even just a pleasant work environment.

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Mar 11, 2017 8:59:33 GMT -5 cookiemdough said:

I think if people could submit work unnamed for review it would drastically change some of the responses received. Unconscious bias is a huge impediment to success and even just a pleasant work environment.

There are a lot of other flaws with the law school exam system, but one thing I think it does right is that the exams are anonymous. We were only identified by our ID numbers. Grades were submitted to the registrar, which is where ID numbers were linked to names. I think for essays, there is a huge benefit to anonymous grading. I also felt more willing to ask questions I thought might be dumb or to even seek help on a personal matter since I knew it wouldn't be held against me.

Incidentally, my law school had a fairly male-dominated culture, but the winner of our prize for highest grades was a woman. I'd be surprised if that happened without anonymous grading.

[downtoearth]

I saw this on FB and was surprised that it was so obvious in just a few emails.

[tacokick]

Of course he had to do this "experiment" instead of just believing her that this happened in the first place.

[vicky]

thanks for sharing your experience dude. I'm sure you'll be a champion for women in your workplace forevermore.

[redheadbaker]

This article is by the same women from the OP's story. Sounds like the clients were the last of her problems. ::angry::

medium.com/@nickyknacks/working-while-female-59a5de3ad266#.r36nitp2z

[LoveTrains]

Enraging.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Color me shocked.

I get treated so much better by clients if a male coworker is simply sitting in on a meeting with me or copied to an email than if it's me alone.

ETA: I regularly had to deal with a situation like this:

Client knows previous man he had been dealing with had been fired. He doesn't know the exact reason why, but knows it was not voluntary.

Said terminated person lied a lot. Like a LOT.

Me: this is how it is.

Client: well, A told me it was like this (basically exact opposite).

Me: he gave you incorrect information.

Client: well, he told me this. Who am I supposed to believe?

[notsopicky]

Mar 11, 2017 8:59:33 GMT -5 cookiemdough said:

I think if people could submit work unnamed for review it would drastically change some of the responses received. Unconscious bias is a huge impediment to success and even just a pleasant work environment.

I wish I could have done that on my applications for school administration. 

[cville]

I call this the "there, there little lady" (TTLL). I have gotten it my entire career. I'm in a new role where I have been authorized by my boss to speak FOR him in certain situations. I'm also pushy because I've dealt with TTLL for over a decade in the workplace. I fight this so often I forget that half the working population doesn't.

I mean, some jackass who is NOT a lawyer argued with me about the meaning of a regulation based on conversations he'd allegedly had with his son, who is a current law student. Then he tried to do an end run around me and go straight to my boss about it. My boss backed me.

[livinitup]

Our agency is having a really tough transition from a long-time executive director (founder) to a new executive director. The new ED has been freaking out and yelling at everyone - in a maladaptive form of leadership.

It's really demoralizing and long-term managers are getting pissed. So, we've been comparing notes on who is getting criticized for what. Accross the board the women are to pushy, too demanding and need to learn to be nicer. (Like, literally, told "be nicer") And the men need to step-up, be firmer, and get tougher. It's like text book "how to manage poorly"

Oh, and as for emails. That idiot ED started to say (randomly) in a meeting that I had to "be a lot nicer in my emails" and to "watch it". And I BLASTED him with a "hell no - my emails are fucking fabulous". Because I watched him shred a female co-worker for months for being "too abrasive" in her emails (she wasn't) -and I was not having it. He backed down quick. NONE OF THE MEN ARE TOO MEAN IN THEIR EMAILS TO STAFF.