Tuesday Russia thread

[pitta12]

Spin, Donnie, spin!

[sporklemotion]

This is like a “throw in everything at the wall and see what sticks” kind of tweet. Way to hone the message, DT:

[bowies]

He really has no idea how desperate he sounds. Lol.

[aurora]

Oct 31, 2017 7:29:18 GMT -5 bowies said:

He really has no idea how desperate he sounds. Lol.

Somehow the random capitalization adds to this effect.

[bex]

I also like how he’s all “Manaforts lawyer said no collusion!!”

Sure. I believe him.

[bowies]

Tech execs will be testifying about Russian interference today.

[WanderingWinoZ]

Here's what Tech Tuesday is all about (Axios)

Just after 6 p.m., in time for the network newscasts, leaks surface of the Facebook statement for today's congressional hearing: "Our best estimate is that approximately 126 million people may have been served one of their stories at some point during the two-year period."
Then Google's: "On YouTube, we did find 18 channels on YouTube with roughly 1,100 videos, a total of 43 hours of content, uploaded by individuals who we suspect are associated with [the Russian] effort."
And Twitter's: "[W]e identified 36,746 accounts that generated automated, election-related content and had at least one of the characteristics we used to associate an account with Russia."

[GilliC]

Oct 31, 2017 7:25:10 GMT -5 sporklemotion said:

This is like a “throw in everything at the wall and see what sticks” kind of tweet. Way to hone the message, DT:

"I hope people will start to focus on our Massive Tax Cuts for Business (jobs) and the Middle Class (in addition to Democrat corruption)!"

So that's going to be tax cuts for Business, the Middle Class, and Democrat corruption?

[cous0226]

I’m so glad he’s calling Papa a liar. Everyone around him knows if they were too stupid to not know already that there is no reason to stay on this train and lie daily. He will not have your back. We don’t even know if he’d have his own families back.

[WanderingWinoZ]

"Upstairs at home, with the TV on, Trump fumes over Russia indictments": "President Trump woke before dawn on Monday and burrowed in at the White House residence to wait for the Russia bombshell he knew was coming. Separated from most of his West Wing staff -- who fretted over why he was late getting to the Oval Office -- Trump clicked on the television and spent the morning playing fuming media critic, legal analyst and crisis communications strategist, according to several people close to him.

"The president digested the news of the first indictments in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's probe with exasperation and disgust, these people said. He called his lawyers repeatedly. He listened intently to cable news commentary. And, with rising irritation, he watched live footage of his onetime campaign adviser and confidant, Paul Manafort, turning himself in to the FBI.

"Initially, Trump felt vindicated. ... But the president's celebration was short-lived. A few minutes later, court documents were unsealed showing that George Papadopoulos, an unpaid foreign policy adviser on Trump's campaign, pleaded guilty to making a false statement to the FBI about his efforts to broker a relationship between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The case provides the clearest evidence yet of links between Trump's campaign and Russian officials." wapo.st/2lxYBF2

[iamlaila]

Love Preet! When the Dems takeover, I want him as Attorney General!

[cous0226]

What I love about yesterday is that his lawyers and people around him hate him so much that they couldn’t wait to run to the press to discuss how enraged he was and how much tv he watched. There is only so many people who could have been with him in his “private residence” yesterday. Oh and he has his Asia trip coming up. Imagine how miserable he’ll be without access to twitter and tv at all times. I hope Mueller is saving some more goods for when 45 gets on that plane.

[Pom]

Oct 31, 2017 7:29:18 GMT -5 bowies said:

He really has no idea how desperate he sounds. Lol.

Of all the IQ45's tweets I believe "Do Something" will forever be my fav.

That's a line every rich POS, that has been an asshole in the entire movie, screams right before being carted off by law enforcement. 💜

[fuckyourcouch]

[iamlaila]

To be a fly on the wall in Hillary and Bill's house now...

[bex]

I actually did think her chapter about Russia was pretty great. Terrifying, but great. It broke down the whole thing pretty well IMO.

[iamlaila]

I've been thinking about this news of George Papadopoulos. First, the fact he's only looking at 6 months sentence at most (and was "undercharged") suggests that he has been able to deliver some goods to the Special Counsel. Second, unsealing means that he's already probably worn a wire and is no longer needed by Mueller. Third, I would bet they released this info while also wiring up another witness to get further information that would likely come about as they (people surrounding the Trump campaign/WH) are initially reacting to this shocking revelation.

[Bernadine]

Oct 31, 2017 8:43:53 GMT -5 iamlaila said:

Love Preet! When the Dems takeover, I want him as Attorney General!

Could his lying on Twitter be considered obstruction?

[iamlaila]

Oct 31, 2017 9:20:53 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Oct 31, 2017 8:43:53 GMT -5 iamlaila said:

Love Preet! When the Dems takeover, I want him as Attorney General!

Could his lying on Twitter be considered obstruction?

Yes, I think that it would be supporting information. The Comey firing would obviously be the more prominent component but the tweets could be used to further support the Special Counsel's charge (in my opinion).  His tweets have already been used by the Courts to bite him in the ass (see the Muslim Ban).

[mbcdefg]

Oct 31, 2017 7:34:18 GMT -5 bex said:

I also like how he’s all “Manaforts lawyer said no collusion!!”

Sure. I believe him.

Right? I mean, he'd be a pretty shitty lawyer if he came out and said, "Oh, my client is guilty as FUCK."

[cous0226]

Oct 31, 2017 9:18:30 GMT -5 iamlaila said:

I've been thinking about this news of George Papadopoulos. First, the fact he's only looking at 6 months sentence at most (and was "undercharged") suggests that he has been able to deliver some goods to the Special Counsel. Second, unsealing means that he's already probably worn a wire and is no longer needed by Mueller. Third, I would bet they released this info while also wiring up another witness to get further information that would likely come about as they (people surrounding the Trump campaign/WH) are initially reacting to this shocking revelation.

Oh that sounds delicious!!!

[mbcdefg]

Oct 31, 2017 8:50:21 GMT -5 Pom said:

Oct 31, 2017 7:29:18 GMT -5 bowies said:

He really has no idea how desperate he sounds. Lol.

Of all the IQ45's tweets I believe "Do Something" will forever be my fav. 

[mbcdefg]

Was this posted anywhere here yet? (August 2016)

[iamlaila]

Oct 31, 2017 9:27:48 GMT -5 cous0226 said:

Oct 31, 2017 9:18:30 GMT -5 iamlaila said:

I've been thinking about this news of George Papadopoulos. First, the fact he's only looking at 6 months sentence at most (and was "undercharged") suggests that he has been able to deliver some goods to the Special Counsel. Second, unsealing means that he's already probably worn a wire and is no longer needed by Mueller. Third, I would bet they released this info while also wiring up another witness to get further information that would likely come about as they (people surrounding the Trump campaign/WH) are initially reacting to this shocking revelation.

Oh that sounds delicious!!!

Yes!  I was talking with DH (a prosecutor with specialization in white collar crimes) about this notion last night and he confirmed that it often happens (with respect to the wearing of wires and timing).  We'll see...only time will tell!

[WanderingWinoZ]

Too much fox news for Trumpster...

[ESF]

Oct 31, 2017 9:20:53 GMT -5 Bernadine said:

Oct 31, 2017 8:43:53 GMT -5 iamlaila said:

Love Preet! When the Dems takeover, I want him as Attorney General!

Could his lying on Twitter be considered obstruction?

A person is guilty of Obstruction of justice when they take steps to influence, delay, or stop an official inquiry.

So yes, in the most technical sense, a tweet that tries to influence public opinion to get support to kill the investigation is obstruction, but it's so attenuated that a tweet is unlikely to be a stand alone basis for an obstruction charge.

More likely, the tweets will be evidence of his state of mind, used to prove that a different action (such as Firing Comey, firing Muller, asking inappropriate questions of the FBI, etc) was done to obstruct justice.

[mbcdefg]

Oct 31, 2017 9:31:51 GMT -5 WanderingWinoZ said:

Too much fox news for Trumpster...

 

[bowies]

I keep thinking of Mueller sitting there with Papadopoulos’s incriminating campaign emails. Lordy.

[GilliC]

Oct 31, 2017 9:31:51 GMT -5 WanderingWinoZ said:

Too much fox news for Trumpster...

"The biggest story yesterday, the one that has the Dems in a dither, is Podesta running from his firm."

[miniroller]