Scandal Finale Spoilers

[readyin07]

Well. I am here for it. 




They just killed off the only truly decent person in the whole show so...

[af1212]

I can’t believe he took the drink!! Why?!

[readyin07]

Apr 19, 2018 21:31:44 GMT -5 af1212 said:

I can’t believe he took the drink!! Why?!

Seriously, right? David Rosen was not that stupid. Sigh. 

[shamrockshake]

Apr 19, 2018 21:31:44 GMT -5 af1212 said:

I can’t believe he took the drink!! Why?!

Right??? How dumb are you David!

[readyin07]

Olivia is dead to me. You don't get the white hat back. She was such an awesome gladiator at the beginning. I don't like how she went down.

[readyin07]

If I was about to be indicted, I would not want sex. Just me?

[shamrockshake]

“The good guy’s dead” 😭 David was my favorite

[readyin07]

I mean...Jake's going down, but they have all done a bunch of bad shit. Like Abby said, the good guy is dead.

[shamrockshake]

That was incredibly disappointing

[af1212]

I didn’t Iike it

[vanlatte]

I've watched from the beginning, but about 3 episode into this final season, I decided I just couldn't do it anymore. I fucking hated everyone. Except David. And Cyrus killed him? Noooo!

[readyin07]

Apr 19, 2018 22:01:09 GMT -5 shamrockshake said:

That was incredibly disappointing

So disappointing :/ I am looking for some kind of meaning here.

[kayl84]

Happy for Quinn, thrilled when Poppa Pope took down Jake, but not thrilled about David’s death, that no one killed Jake, that it was left so....open. So many answers I still have.

Am i the only one confused why Liv’s portrait is up there??

[funfetti]

There’s bound to be a spinoff, right? How do you end the series with two people saying hello?

[sparkythelawyer]

Could they take Greys with them? That show needs to end yesterday.

[wambam]

I've only read the recap, but I don't get the portrait.

[osulori]

Apr 20, 2018 11:24:06 GMT -5 wambam said:

I've only read the recap, but I don't get the portrait.

Ditto all of this.  And now that I know they killed off David, I am half tempted to not watch the finale at all because it'll just piss me off that much more.

[readyin07]

Apr 20, 2018 11:24:06 GMT -5 wambam said:

I've only read the recap, but I don't get the portrait.

Here is what I think and I would be curious to hear what you think when you watch. I don't think that it means that she becomes President or anything like that.

Rowan has this moment when Jake comes to him about Olivia being collateral damage to the Republic where Rowan basically shames him and says he has no power, that when you have to tell people you are the power that it is clear you (Jake) don't have it. Of course Rowan believes he personally has it, that he IS the power.  He tells Jake that both he and Olivia as his "kids" have disappointed him and he was waiting for just one of them to get it right.

Fast forward to the end where Rowan goes on to "save" Olivia by testifying. I was checking on my kid at this part, but the basic gist was how ironic it was that these ridiculous white men (presidents) walk around all puffed up like they have the power when, all this time, it has been Rowan, a black man, who has the ultimate power in the republic. 

I think the portrait signifies that Olivia has been recognized as "the power" behind two US presidents and countless of other Washington DC types, that she "fulfilled" what Rowan says in the first part with Jake.

[pumpkin]

That was an unsatisfying ending. It should have been much better, we deserved much better.

[claudiajean]

It should have been better, but shame on us for expecting better after the hot mess of the last two seasons.

[wambam]

It was so rushed, but I can’t say I’m all that disappointed. It was fine.

[isabel]

Apr 20, 2018 11:19:55 GMT -5 sparkythelawyer said:

Could they take Greys with them? That show needs to end yesterday.

You shut your mouth.

[pokerface]

I kind of loved the portrait and how it left you curious as to what it meant.

I’ve been totally over this show for the last two seasons but I was happy enough with the finale. I really loved it when it started and I couldn’t give it up!

[whiskeytails]

Apr 20, 2018 12:30:47 GMT -5 readyin07 said:

Apr 20, 2018 11:24:06 GMT -5 wambam said:

I've only read the recap, but I don't get the portrait.

Here is what I think and I would be curious to hear what you think when you watch. I don't think that it means that she becomes President or anything like that.

Rowan has this moment when Jake comes to him about Olivia being collateral damage to the Republic where Rowan basically shames him and says he has no power, that when you have to tell people you are the power that it is clear you (Jake) don't have it. Of course Rowan believes he personally has it, that he IS the power.  He tells Jake that both he and Olivia as his "kids" have disappointed him and he was waiting for just one of them to get it right.

Fast forward to the end where Rowan goes on to "save" Olivia by testifying. I was checking on my kid at this part, but the basic gist was how ironic it was that these ridiculous white men (presidents) walk around all puffed up like they have the power when, all this time, it has been Rowan, a black man, who has the ultimate power in the republic. 

I think the portrait signifies that Olivia has been recognized as "the power" behind two US presidents and countless of other Washington DC types, that she "fulfilled" what Rowan says in the first part with Jake.

Could mean this. Or it could mean that Olivia became president.

It could mean that Olivia was first lady to Mellie.

Could mean that Olivia married Fitz.

Could mean a lot of things and I think they did that to be very Sopranos -- make your own ending.

[W.T.Faulkner]

Apr 21, 2018 15:14:25 GMT -5 whiskeytails said:

Apr 20, 2018 12:30:47 GMT -5 readyin07 said:

Here is what I think and I would be curious to hear what you think when you watch. I don't think that it means that she becomes President or anything like that.

Rowan has this moment when Jake comes to him about Olivia being collateral damage to the Republic where Rowan basically shames him and says he has no power, that when you have to tell people you are the power that it is clear you (Jake) don't have it. Of course Rowan believes he personally has it, that he IS the power.  He tells Jake that both he and Olivia as his "kids" have disappointed him and he was waiting for just one of them to get it right.

Fast forward to the end where Rowan goes on to "save" Olivia by testifying. I was checking on my kid at this part, but the basic gist was how ironic it was that these ridiculous white men (presidents) walk around all puffed up like they have the power when, all this time, it has been Rowan, a black man, who has the ultimate power in the republic. 

I think the portrait signifies that Olivia has been recognized as "the power" behind two US presidents and countless of other Washington DC types, that she "fulfilled" what Rowan says in the first part with Jake.

Could mean this. Or it could mean that Olivia became president.

It could mean that Olivia was first lady to Mellie.

Could mean that Olivia married Fitz.

Could mean a lot of things and I think they did that to be very Sopranos -- make your own ending.

I assumed it meant that Mellie was like, “uh, fuck you, my First Lady portrait isn’t hanging anywhere because my PRESIDENTIAL portrait is the one I wanted,” and in place of the First Lady portrait she commissioned a portrait of Olivia.

I really hate how much I thought about that.

Jake going to jail and everybody else walking free is patently unfair and really dumb. Olivia deserves to rot in jail with Jake. Honestly, though, I hated every last character on that show for the last 2 seasons so the only way I was going to be satisfied was if a fucking meteor hit the planet and everyone died.

[mx27]

Apr 21, 2018 15:14:25 GMT -5 whiskeytails said:

Apr 20, 2018 12:30:47 GMT -5 readyin07 said:

Here is what I think and I would be curious to hear what you think when you watch. I don't think that it means that she becomes President or anything like that.

Rowan has this moment when Jake comes to him about Olivia being collateral damage to the Republic where Rowan basically shames him and says he has no power, that when you have to tell people you are the power that it is clear you (Jake) don't have it. Of course Rowan believes he personally has it, that he IS the power.  He tells Jake that both he and Olivia as his "kids" have disappointed him and he was waiting for just one of them to get it right.

Fast forward to the end where Rowan goes on to "save" Olivia by testifying. I was checking on my kid at this part, but the basic gist was how ironic it was that these ridiculous white men (presidents) walk around all puffed up like they have the power when, all this time, it has been Rowan, a black man, who has the ultimate power in the republic. 

I think the portrait signifies that Olivia has been recognized as "the power" behind two US presidents and countless of other Washington DC types, that she "fulfilled" what Rowan says in the first part with Jake.

Could mean this. Or it could mean that Olivia became president.

It could mean that Olivia was first lady to Mellie.

Could mean that Olivia married Fitz.

Could mean a lot of things and I think they did that to be very Sopranos -- make your own ending.

I really don't think the portrait was about Olivia being first lady.  Honestly, that would be very disappointing (and dated).  Given Rowan's speech, I'm pretty sure the portrait is a way to commemorate the influence Olivia had in the White House (and the impact she had on the nation and around the world)...kind of as a clandestine commander.