Off duty FBI agent accidentally discharges gun at nightclub

[pixy0stix]

He did a backflip and it fell out. AYFKM?


www.9news.com/article/news/local/dpd-person-shot-when-off-duty-fbi-agents-gun-gets-dislodged-while-dancing-at-night-club/73-560881345

[winecat]

JFC.

[One Girl In All The World]

Responsible gun owner!!!!

Or, not.

[MrsAxilla]

Jun 2, 2018 21:09:44 GMT -5 One Girl In All The World said:

Responsible gun owner!!!!

Or, not.

Fun fact! That gun was most likely a Gloch, which is one of the only handguns I'm aware of that can accidentally discharge that way because it doesn't have a safety switch. A few years ago, a basketball player had one in his pocket and the trigger got hung up on the fabric when he sat down and fired into his leg. There's another one without a physical safety switch (can't recall what it is right now), but there are pressure points that have to be activated in order to fire (located where someone who means to fire would naturally grip).! Surely an FBI agent knows this. Responsible gun owner indeed.

[One Girl In All The World]

Jun 2, 2018 21:31:54 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Jun 2, 2018 21:09:44 GMT -5 One Girl In All The World said:

Responsible gun owner!!!!

Or, not.

Fun fact! That gun was most likely a Gloch, which is one of the only handguns I'm aware of that can accidentally discharge that way because it doesn't have a safety switch. A few years ago, a basketball player had one in his pocket and the trigger got hung up on the fabric when he sat down and fired into his leg. There's another one without a physical safety switch (can't recall what it is right now), but there are pressure points that have to be activated in order to fire (located where someone who means to fire would naturally grip).! Surely an FBI agent knows this. Responsible gun owner indeed.

JFC.

And this right here is why I will side eye anyone who carries a gun. Every fucking one.

[Dumbledork]

The flip thing made me think it somehow fired as it hit the floor, but it fired when he picked it up. Did he squeeze the trigger as he picked it up or something?

[MrsAxilla]

Jun 2, 2018 21:42:10 GMT -5 Dumbledork said:

The flip thing made me think it somehow fired as it hit the floor, but it fired when he picked it up. Did he squeeze the trigger as he picked it up or something?

Exactly.

[winecat]

Was the agent drunk? I mean, it seems like a 'duh' kind of question but how else would this happen? That bar pours a strong drink.

[cherryvalance]

I'm appalled by the sheer stupidity and irresponsibility.

But also, a backflip? Was this a 2001 dance movie or something?

[bhnumbers]

Jun 3, 2018 7:18:14 GMT -5 cherryvalance said:

But also, a backflip? Was this a 2001 dance movie or something?

And what song was playing???

But seriously, awful. So glad no one was more seriously hurt

[illgetthere]

It is true that Glocks don't have a physical safety. There are other guns that have a double trigger. However none will accidently discharge if the gun is not kept chambered. Especially with a gun without a safety, I don't understand keeping a round in the chamber.

Also, do all states not have laws not allowing guns where alchohol is served?

[mbcdefg]

The way he put up his hands at the end ... “Geez, SOR-REE, everybody.”

[cherryvalance]

Jun 3, 2018 7:49:15 GMT -5 bhnumbers said:

Jun 3, 2018 7:18:14 GMT -5 cherryvalance said:

But also, a backflip? Was this a 2001 dance movie or something?

And what song was playing???

But seriously, awful. So glad no one was more seriously hurt

I'm picturing a "Top That" esque dance-off.

[UMaineTeach]

Jun 3, 2018 8:39:56 GMT -5 illgetthere said:

It is true that Glocks don't have a physical safety. There are other guns that have a double trigger. However none will accidently discharge if the gun is not kept chambered. Especially with a gun without a safety, I don't understand keeping a round in the chamber.

Also, do all states not have laws not allowing guns where alchohol is served?

In Maine, you can carry in a bar as long as you are not drinking. Because lots of people hang out in a bar not drinking.

[Miss Phryne Fisher]

Jun 3, 2018 8:54:44 GMT -5 cherryvalance said:

Jun 3, 2018 7:49:15 GMT -5 bhnumbers said:

And what song was playing???

But seriously, awful. So glad no one was more seriously hurt

I'm picturing a "Top That" esque dance-off.

OMG YES

[HRH Queen Dick I, Orphan]

::mails Cheeto a Glock::

[Captain Catnip]

Jun 3, 2018 8:39:56 GMT -5 illgetthere said:

It is true that Glocks don't have a physical safety. There are other guns that have a double trigger. However none will accidently discharge if the gun is not kept chambered. Especially with a gun without a safety, I don't understand keeping a round in the chamber.

Also, do all states not have laws not allowing guns where alchohol is served?

Maybe it's different for law enforcement?

[pixy0stix]

Google tells me that as soon as you start drinking, you cannot legally carry a firearm. He could carry it into a bar.

[dukesilver]

Jun 3, 2018 8:41:23 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

The way he put up his hands at the end ... “Geez, SOR-REE, everybody.”

Yes! The whole incident is terrible but the fact that he didn't seem all that horrified or concerned made it that much worse. What an asshole.

[amberlyrose]

Well, now I'm a little glad the bachelorette party I was with decided to call it an early night, since we were going to head to that area to bar hop.

I'm sick and tired of the good gun owner shtick. This is a FEDERAL AGENT WITH EXTENSIVE TRAINING. This is not Joe Schmoe who decided to carry a weapon for a fun night out with the bros or something. If we can't even trust people with hundreds of hours of training, how are we still trusting the casual civilian with firearms?!?!

[icedcoffee]

I hope this dummy loses his job.

[aliciabella]

I cannot believe he just shrugged his shoulders after shooting someone amd walked away. He better lose his job. We all know he wasn't just drinking water at a bar all night.

[cattledogkisses]

Jun 4, 2018 12:18:47 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

I cannot believe he just shrugged his shoulders after shooting someone amd walked away. He better lose his job. We all know he wasn't just drinking water at a bar all night.

If it can be proved that he was served alcohol, could he potentially be charged with anything?

I also don't think that he was at a bar all night, dancing and doing backflips, and just drinking water.

[aliciabella]

Jun 4, 2018 12:21:26 GMT -5 cattledogkisses said:

Jun 4, 2018 12:18:47 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

I cannot believe he just shrugged his shoulders after shooting someone amd walked away. He better lose his job. We all know he wasn't just drinking water at a bar all night.

If it can be proved that he was served alcohol, could he potentially be charged with anything?

I also don't think that he was at a bar all night, dancing and doing backflips, and just drinking water.

In most states it is illegal to carry a gun while drinking- for obvious reasons. I am sure he gave blood to determine his BAC and wouldn't be surprised if they charged him criminally. At minimum he should lose his job because that is some bullshit right there.

[sydney02]

You can't have it both ways.

They say guns don't kill people, people kill people. Then WTF is an accidental discharge? Either guns can kill people without the carrier intending to fire the gun OR they should do away with "accidental discharge". Your gun fires? How about being charged with attempted murder.

A highly trained person can have an accident and I'm supposed to feel safe with Bubba carrying? No.

[pixy0stix]

Local news is still verifying, but there's scuttlebutt that he's not from Denver, but was just visiting.

[aliciabella]

Jun 4, 2018 12:39:48 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Local news is still verifying, but there's scuttlebutt that he's not from Denver, but was just visiting.

He is not from Denver and was out there for job reasons.

[cattledogkisses]

He's being charged with second-degree assault, and possibly additional charges pending the results of blood alcohol testing.

www.npr.org/2018/06/13/619526810/fbi-agent-charged-after-dance-move-resulted-in-accidental-shooting

[downtoearth]

I know a FBI agent who hangs out with my DH and there are all sorts of rules on her government issued gun. She can't leave it locked in her car, so she sometimes has to call to venues she goes to and find out if they can lock her gun for her in the place or if she can carry where others can't (i.e. professional sporting venues, public concerts, etc.) - mostly when she meets people right after work. I assume she is always carrying - and no she doesn't drink when she's carrying and only really if she has left her gun locked home or is home where she can lock her gun.

ETA: Basically saying all this to say that it sounds like this guy was careless and should be charged since he wasn't following FBI or local regulations for carrying.

[sugarglider]

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