One of my friends put this on Facebook. I'm so fucking mad. Yes, it's as simple as that, people who commit suicide have had too much caffeine and alcohol! Addiction and suicide are separate mental illnesses, you fucking asshole. Perhaps they may contribute to someone who is considering suicide. But quarterbacking a suicide is so fucking...I don't know. Disgusting? I'm so furious.
It is galling to me how many people assume and believe their experience is the same as everyone else’s and they’ll tell you all about the one true experience, theirs! Are you fucking kidding me with this turd shit?
One of my friends put this on Facebook. I'm so fucking mad. Yes, it's as simple as that, people who commit suicide have had too much caffeine and alcohol! Addiction and suicide are separate mental illnesses, you fucking asshole. Perhaps they may contribute to someone who is considering suicide. But quarterbacking a suicide is so fucking...I don't know. Disgusting? I'm so furious.
Who the fuck posted that shit? Give me their address. I’m not even kidding.
GTFO with that bullshit.
I'm so fucking sick of this guy. We were good friends in high school. He has turned into a holier-than-thou person who has all the answers.
He also supported Bernie and to this day thinks he would have won if he'd been the nominee. Which may tell you everything you need to know, anyway.
One of my friends put this on Facebook. I'm so fucking mad. Yes, it's as simple as that, people who commit suicide have had too much caffeine and alcohol! Addiction and suicide are separate mental illnesses, you fucking asshole. Perhaps they may contribute to someone who is considering suicide. But quarterbacking a suicide is so fucking...I don't know. Disgusting? I'm so furious.
Who the fuck posted that shit? Give me their address. I’m not even kidding.
GTFO with that bullshit.
My husband is an outpatient mental health therapist. You wouldn't believe some of the comments we get like, "your husband probably knows all the crazies" or "can't people just figure it out on their own? I can" and those are some of the more mild comments. It makes me so angered and sad that people think that just because someone is asking for help it makes them crazy or weak. My quick comeback at times is "they're no crazier than you or me" or "well, I applaud them for getting the help they need"
I like in a rural farming town and mental health care is looked at in such a negative way (as it is in other places, but it is blaring here) because people, especially men, should be "strong" and "figure it out" DH and I are actually in talks with our school superintendent about putting on a mental health seminar at the beginning of school the year.
AND I will add that the accessibility and affordability is ridiculous. DH does what he can to help people and will often forego copays just because he would rather have the client receive care than be afraid of making the copay.
Post by HRH Queen Dick I, Orphan on Jun 8, 2018 9:42:59 GMT -5
I love this guy. Fucking hell. I went to a book signing of his years ago and I'm standing there thinking what a crap job having to listen to drivel from us fans. So it's my turn and I say to him I have nothing original to say but I just love your stuff and he laughs and says Oh that happens to me all the time. But of course he himself was a true original.
I had to leave the CE thread about this because someone mentions being angry at KS and AB.
I walked out of that thread, too. You know who has the right to be angry? His family. Are you his family? No? Then STFU.
I'll tell you, the WORST thing about my father's wake/funeral was the folks who kept coming up to me and telling me how angry they were at him. Do people do that when someone dies of cancer? Or in an accident? No. So why the FUCK would you do that to a family member of someone who loses their war with depression?
I hate this. I hate that people use phrases like “too bad he didn’t get help” or “he should have thought about what he was doing to his family,” etc. Depression creates such distorted thinking, and treating suicide like a selfish or easy way out is part of the problem.
I lost a very close friend to suicide. He left behind a wonderful wife and toddler. He was the most kind, generous, loving, selfless, and HAPPY, person. But depression stole him away, and twisted his thoughts. In his mind, suicide was a gift to his family, and he was saving them from his burdens. He didn’t do it TO them, but FOR them. People who lose a loved one to depression/suicide absolutely don’t need to also be burdened with dealing with anyone else’s “anger” about it.
Friend of a friend posted that we should be asking if he was murdered. I quote: "...famous people committing 'suicide' when they have nothing to be sad over. Seriously, murder. Think about it."
Friend of a friend posted that we should be asking if he was murdered. I quote: "...famous people committing 'suicide' when they have nothing to be sad over. Seriously, murder. Think about it."
I'm so sorry for all the pain this brings up to the people who've lost a loved one to suicide or who have suffered themselves. The last 2 funerals I've attended were people who completed suicide. One was very similar to @slk4117 - a father of 2 whose daughter had her bat mitzvah 2 weeks before he hanged himself. It's such a painful place to be - to even contemplate, let alone carry out. All victims deserve kindness and empathy - including the one who has died - they are a victim, too.
Fuck anyone who shames, blames, or decides to offer their completely ignorant opinions about what he (or anyone) could've, should've, or would've done. This is a disease epidemic, not some sort of soapbox opportunity to promote any agenda besides destigmatizing mental health struggles and making quality mental health care accessible and affordable.
I will miss his sarcasm, wit, curiosity, openness, and spirit of adventure. He had a way with words that was unmatched in our generation and a true gift for bringing the reader or viewer along to see the "real" side of things that we would never have seen without his ability to connect and share.
This is what is really upsetting me about Rose McGowan's response. It's so tone deaf and insensitive. Some things shouldn't be put into the public sphere
I'm so sorry for all the pain this brings up to the people who've lost a loved one to suicide or who have suffered themselves. The last 2 funerals I've attended were people who completed suicide. One was very similar to @slk4117 - a father of 2 whose daughter had her bat mitzvah 2 weeks before he hanged himself. It's such a painful place to be - to even contemplate, let alone carry out. All victims deserve kindness and empathy - including the one who has died - they are a victim, too.
Fuck anyone who shames, blames, or decides to offer their completely ignorant opinions about what he (or anyone) could've, should've, or would've done. This is a disease epidemic, not some sort of soapbox opportunity to promote any agenda besides destigmatizing mental health struggles and making quality mental health care accessible and affordable.
I will miss his sarcasm, wit, curiosity, openness, and spirit of adventure. He had a way with words that was unmatched in our generation and a true gift for bringing the reader or viewer along to see the "real" side of things that we would never have seen without his ability to connect and share.
This is what is really upsetting me about Rose McGowan's response. It's so tone deaf and insensitive. Some things shouldn't be put into the public sphere
I just saw what she said and I think that you are being gracious calling her response tone deaf and insensitive.
I'm so sorry for all the pain this brings up to the people who've lost a loved one to suicide or who have suffered themselves. The last 2 funerals I've attended were people who completed suicide. One was very similar to @slk4117 - a father of 2 whose daughter had her bat mitzvah 2 weeks before he hanged himself. It's such a painful place to be - to even contemplate, let alone carry out. All victims deserve kindness and empathy - including the one who has died - they are a victim, too.
Fuck anyone who shames, blames, or decides to offer their completely ignorant opinions about what he (or anyone) could've, should've, or would've done. This is a disease epidemic, not some sort of soapbox opportunity to promote any agenda besides destigmatizing mental health struggles and making quality mental health care accessible and affordable.
I will miss his sarcasm, wit, curiosity, openness, and spirit of adventure. He had a way with words that was unmatched in our generation and a true gift for bringing the reader or viewer along to see the "real" side of things that we would never have seen without his ability to connect and share.
This is what is really upsetting me about Rose McGowan's response. It's so tone deaf and insensitive. Some things shouldn't be put into the public sphere
When people respond in that manner, that tells me they have no clue. It is not about having people who love you. How much money or success you have. It is not even about having kids to live for. It twists everything around. What is black is now white. It is a beast that fucks with your mind, your heart, everything.
I am mostly a lurker, but this topic is so close to home that I had to respond. My son in law committed suicide by gun. He and my daughter were separated at the time. She was devastated and so frantic. There were post it note all over the apartment that said no one loves me. It broke us all that he felt that way. He was an alcoholic and had fallen off the wagon. He was going to therapy, had been in rehab, and wAs making progress, or so she thought. No one knew his dression was so deep, or illness was so out of control. People are so good at hiding it. He had been with friends earlier, seemed fine, and was found the next day. A few people expressed anger at the funeral. That is the last thing survivors need to hear. My daughter is involved worth suicide prevention now, even remarried with two kids.
When people respond in that manner, that tells me they have no clue. It is not about having people who love you. How much money or success you have. It is not even about having kids to live for. It twists everything around. What is black is now white. It is a beast that fucks with your mind, your heart, everything.
And my daughter will be under such good control and in a good place.
And then something tells her she doesn’t need her meds or therapy, they don’t help anyway. And then she spirals.
She’s going to have to fight that feeling for her entire life. It doesn’t make sense. It’s why it’s such a dangerous disease. Your brain is constantly working against you.
Exactly. For most, depression and other mental illnesses are not temporary problem. THey are a chronic problem, which is wearing. it is exhausting putting on the mask of being happy or content in life. Of fighting the fatigue to get up and do what is expected of you. there is a reason that many people who have chronic illnesses die by suicide. Eventually it all becomes too much, the beast is stronger than they are and they just want it to end. Maybe they also don't have the means to always have therapy or meds to help even things out. There are so many variables, but the first step will be to stop diminishing what these illnesses truly are and respecting them as being real. Being serious.
cleo29 and lexxasaurus and others who have shared your stories, thank you.
The indignation pisses me off. AB was probably one of the most fascinating people that I've ever 'almost' met. To think that he did this without knowing/understanding how amazing people thought he was is just heart breaking. And same with KS. This week, hell, this year can fuck right off.
What a sad fucking place we live in where people can't get the help they need - whether they can afford it or not - the stigma of 'mental health' is disgusting.
I wish the people who were angry, calling them selfish, thinking they need more sleep, whatever - KNEW how it felt to be at rock bottom, knew how helpless and hopeless it felt, no matter how much sleep, beer, or time you spent with friends.
I also wish they knew what it felt like to have actually lost someone you loved to suicide. To wish you had done more or realized what were signs BEFORE they took their lives.