I was reading a story about how suicide is way up in this country.
I don’t know what to do about it, but our current system isn’t working at all.
I can tell you one reason it is up. When you read the comments about someone who has died by suicide one of the top words you will hear or read is selfish. If people are saying or thinking that, then they have no fucking clue what real depression is like and what it does to the person. None. So, until we can change that rhetoric and really take the time to understand what it does, how insidious it is and what we can do to help those suffering, I don't see things changing.
Mental health care remains out of reach for many people because it is so expensive. And we still kind of see it as somewhat self-indulgent. We have to do better.
cleo29, right. I can't imagine my life being so bad that I would want to leave my daughter behind to fend for herself knowing that I took my life. I also can't imagine feeling so helpless, hurt, or depressed that suicide is the better alternative in my mind. We do have to do better. Helping them, and having some compassion towards people in general.
Lack of empathy is a huge problem in our culture, especially with suicide. So sad, so awful. Anyone that thinks it is selfish, I don't think has suffered from mental illness.
cleo29 , right. I can't imagine my life being so bad that I would want to leave my daughter behind to fend for herself knowing that I took my life. I also can't imagine feeling so helpless, hurt, or depressed that suicide is the better alternative in my mind. We do have to do better. Helping them, and having some compassion towards people in general.
I had to leave school my freshman year at college due to depression. It was awful. I later told my mom it felt like the real me was trapped at the bottom of a well and this beast had taken over. And while i never contemplated suicide, I did consider hurting myself to get attention because it felt like my mom was not realizing how bad things had gotten.
It is a beast and until you are in it, you just have no idea. So, when this happens, it makes me sad for all parties involved. The families left dealing with the aftermath and the person who was so without hope that this seemed the right answer.
I can tell you one reason it is up. When you read the comments about someone who has died by suicide one of the top words you will hear or read is selfish. If people are saying or thinking that, then they have no fucking clue what real depression is like and what it does to the person. None. So, until we can change that rhetoric and really take the time to understand what it does, how insidious it is and what we can do to help those suffering, I don't see things changing.
Mental health care remains out of reach for many people because it is so expensive. And we still kind of see it as somewhat self-indulgent. We have to do better.
Not to mention, often when other depressed people read/hear the words "selfish", "self-centered", "egotistical" "we're so angry at this person", in regards to someone taking their life, it perpetuates their depression.
When my father took his life, I heard all the words. Like my feelings surrounding it weren't complicated enough, try dealing with other people throwing in your face what a narcissist he was and "how could he do this to his family?!?!?!" The shame runs deep, and I'm not even a depressed person.
I am so sorry for your loss.
I also wonder if because we use the word "depressed" so frequently when we mean we are a little down, if that downplays or makes it seem less serious when someone says they suffer from depression. I hope that made sense. the real thing is terrible.
He has always been so open about his mental health issues and past heroin addiction and other problems and I’m not surprised exactly but it does seem unexpected. He was right in the middle of filming an episode of his show. It really shows it can happen quite suddenly.
I was reading a story about how suicide is way up in this country.
I don’t know what to do about it, but our current system isn’t working at all.
I can tell you one reason it is up. When you read the comments about someone who has died by suicide one of the top words you will hear or read is selfish. If people are saying or thinking that, then they have no fucking clue what real depression is like and what it does to the person. None. So, until we can change that rhetoric and really take the time to understand what it does, how insidious it is and what we can do to help those suffering, I don't see things changing.
Mental health care remains out of reach for many people because it is so expensive. And we still kind of see it as somewhat self-indulgent. We have to do better.
I'm going to quote this simply because I can't like it more than once.
I've had a couple of conversations this week that really reaffirmed how little people understand this disease and the toll it takes.
I had to explain the chronicness of the disease to someone who asked me if it would help to have someone who just really really really loved me and wanted to focus on making me happy.
I can tell you one reason it is up. When you read the comments about someone who has died by suicide one of the top words you will hear or read is selfish. If people are saying or thinking that, then they have no fucking clue what real depression is like and what it does to the person. None. So, until we can change that rhetoric and really take the time to understand what it does, how insidious it is and what we can do to help those suffering, I don't see things changing.
Mental health care remains out of reach for many people because it is so expensive. And we still kind of see it as somewhat self-indulgent. We have to do better.
I'm going to quote this simply because I can't like it more than once.
I've had a couple of conversations this week that really reaffirmed how little people understand this disease and the toll it takes.
I had to explain the chronicness of the disease to someone who asked me if it would help to have someone who just really really really loved me and wanted to focus on making me happy.
That face was an accident, it was supposed to be a string of question marks, but I'm leaving it because it's pretty accurate
One of my friends put this on Facebook. I'm so fucking mad. Yes, it's as simple as that, people who commit suicide have had too much caffeine and alcohol! Addiction and suicide are separate mental illnesses, you fucking asshole. Perhaps they may contribute to someone who is considering suicide. But quarterbacking a suicide is so fucking...I don't know. Disgusting? I'm so furious.
One of my friends put this on Facebook. I'm so fucking mad. Yes, it's as simple as that, people who commit suicide have had too much caffeine and alcohol! Addiction and suicide are separate mental illnesses, you fucking asshole. Perhaps they may contribute to someone who is considering suicide. But quarterbacking a suicide is so fucking...I don't know. Disgusting? I'm so furious.
Who the fuck posted that shit? Give me their address. I’m not even kidding.
One of my friends put this on Facebook. I'm so fucking mad. Yes, it's as simple as that, people who commit suicide have had too much caffeine and alcohol! Addiction and suicide are separate mental illnesses, you fucking asshole. Perhaps they may contribute to someone who is considering suicide. But quarterbacking a suicide is so fucking...I don't know. Disgusting? I'm so furious.
1) Alcohol isn't a stimulant, so it doesn't "bring you up" 2) Beer makes me happy, so STFU friend-of-pants!
I'm so sorry to everybody here who has lost somebody close to suicide. At this point, it seems like everybody has been touched by and one way or another. Mental illness has such a stigma, getting help is hard even if you have the money, and absolutely not affordable if you don't.
To that person that posted about alcohol and caffeine and all that other shit, and your dreams about life as a child... those dreams are crushed under the feelings that you are worthless, that nothing is going to get better, that you could never achieve those things in a million years because sometimes you can't get out of bed. I can't speak for everyone, but that's my experience.
Though I struggle with anxiety and PTSD, my main diagnosis is bipolar disorder. I'm pretty open with friends and people close to me about it. I correct people when they make a flippant comments about how someone is acting so bipolar. No, that's not the same. I have days where I'm impulsive, Restless, agitated and I have days we're out of nowhere I'm overwhelmed with suicidal thoughts. I don't have to actively want to kill myself to have these. Getting in a car, and having the immediate thought of how hard I would have to run my car into a tree to kill myself is terrifying.
NO ONE is immune. Money, fame, a good family, lots of friends, none of this cures those thoughts in your head. We need to talk about it more. We need to make it easier to get help. I am never angry at the person who chose to take their life, but angry at the system that fails us.
This broke my heart. I'm so sad for his family and friends. We watch every single episode he put out and he was just so interested in things. What a huge loss.