There's been a ton of articles lately saying she and Kate aren't getting along, and that has something to do with why they are moving out to the country and not KP. Apparently Harry felt that William wasn't welcoming enough to Megan and their dad had to intervene.
Also, that Megan has been giving the staff issues.
Disclaimer- most of my royal news comes from the Daily Mail, so take it with a grain of salt. But it's been all over lately.
I feel like there has been a barrage of these stories. I've seen ones where Will warned Harry about Meghan before they got married, that Meghan threw some sort of fit at last Christmas and Charles had to step in, that Meghan was mean to Kate's staff.
All the stories make Meghan look terrible and Kate look amazing, so, I assume they are all lies trying to make Meghan look bad for any number of reasons, but first and foremost because she is an outsider.
The press is going crazy with the narrative that Meghan is a bitchy demanding diva. There are a ton of leaks coming out. It’s all very messy.
Some of these leaks are being reported by veteran well respected royal reporters, so the idea that they are making up the leaks kind of loses steam IMO. I don’t think the actual stories are true (or not to the extent reported) but I think someone is telling these reporters they are. In all the stories Kate is the quiet victim, or standing up for her staff etc.
There was a quote this week about how Meghan should not go “tit for tat” with Kate in the press. It was a weird comment. I feel bad for Meghan regardless of the source of these leaks (some say will and Kate, others prince Charles, others say Andrew, etc. it’s all very messy and no one is looking good right now in the royal press).
On a lighter note, look up #mypalacesource on Twitter. It’s hilarious.
Also I will say that I love these trousers on Kate. I think she looks great in separates like this - something we rarely see on her - and she should wear them more often. I also think often when she wears her hair half up like this it looks juvenile, but I like this style with a bit of lift.
Post by mrsukyankee on Dec 5, 2018 16:54:44 GMT -5
There's a HUGE amount of racism at play in the British press (and within the British Royalty & those who work there tbh), especially places like the Daily Mail and that ilk. I would give it a lot less credence.
There's a HUGE amount of racism at play in the British press (and within the British Royalty & those who work there tbh), especially places like the Daily Mail and that ilk. I would give it a lot less credence.
I totally think this is Daily Mail made-up drama! There are no upcoming weddings and the baby won't be born until April, so they have to invent something in the meantime to get clicks.
I think the drama is very over-exaggerated but I've seen a couple theories that sort of make it make sense - that some old school staff don't like the way Meghan communicates/works because she's used to working with assistants and folks via "hollywood proceses" and they're making a huge stink out of super basic stuff. For example, there was a big stink that she sends text messages early in the morning about events for the day/things she needs and someone threw a hissy fit because that's not the way it's always been done. That's totally normal behavior for a lot of people, especially those used to having an assistant, so I'm sure (if that's true) Meghan means no harm with it. And W&K probably just do things the "traditional" way because that's what Will learned from Charles, so then these complainers fawn over them as being "right."
It's all dumb though. Although Fug Girls pointed out that the royal family has traditionally been drama-filled and it's just been in the last few years that things have all seemed happy go lucky, which is a good point lol
Meghan and Harry are doing exactly what Will and Kate did shortly after getting married:
- live in this cottage at KP - move out of London for a few years - move back to KP into a bigger, official apartment
This might leave more time for QEII's cousin (I think that's him?) to move out of KP. Rumors were that they would move out after M+H's wedding but it looks like they are staying put for now.
Meghan and Harry are doing exactly what Will and Kate did shortly after getting married:
- live in this cottage at KP - move out of London for a few years - move back to KP into a bigger, official apartment
This might leave more time for QEII's cousin (I think that's him?) to move out of KP. Rumors were that they would move out after M+H's wedding but it looks like they are staying put for now.
Yep which is why I think it’s MUD over stuff that means nothing. I think the theory that some staff are annoyed at Meghan’s approach is a real possibility and ridiculous on the staffs part if true.
Apparently the Gloucester’s are moving out very soon but their apartment (apt 1) needs to be renovated. The Sussex’s are apparently also keeping their Cotswolds house for now so who knows where they will end up. I don’t think the idea of them staying in Windsor is out of the question though.
I agree that a lot of the drama is completely made up and racism of course plays a HUGE part. But again, some of these reporters aren’t going to jeopardize their relationship with the royals by writing complete lies.
Not Richard Palmer though. He hates Meghan and would print anything against her. Same with Piers Morgan. He’s such trash when it comes to Meghan.
Eta the Christmas story was from Katie Nichols I believe. No one was she making it up. I don’t believe in air freshener gate though.
I don’t believe any of the difficult bride rumors. Charles at the wedding events, QEII on the train event just after the wedding and Kate at Wimbledon we’re all CLEARLY warm and welcoming to Meghan. They were not being polite out of duty. They all clearly like Meghan and I don’t think that would have been the case if Meghan was being difficult, as recent rumors indicate.
Not Richard Palmer though. He hates Meghan and would print anything against her. Same with Piers Morgan. He’s such trash when it comes to Meghan.
Ugh, yes! He's so awful. She could have the baby and then go do a charity event the next day and he'd be like "omg, why is she wearing a hospital bracelet still! And why wasn't she here last night!"
And then he whines when people are "mean" to him and call him out.
I think the drama is very over-exaggerated but I've seen a couple theories that sort of make it make sense - that some old school staff don't like the way Meghan communicates/works because she's used to working with assistants and folks via "hollywood proceses" and they're making a huge stink out of super basic stuff. For example, there was a big stink that she sends text messages early in the morning about events for the day/things she needs and someone threw a hissy fit because that's not the way it's always been done. That's totally normal behavior for a lot of people, especially those used to having an assistant, so I'm sure (if that's true) Meghan means no harm with it. And W&K probably just do things the "traditional" way because that's what Will learned from Charles, so then these complainers fawn over them as being "right."
It's all dumb though. Although Fug Girls pointed out that the royal family has traditionally been drama-filled and it's just been in the last few years that things have all seemed happy go lucky, which is a good point lol
I agree, I think it's really exaggerated too. Like, I think it's possible that Kate and Meghan don't have that much in common and so maybe don't really click that well and aren't BFFs but that doesn't mean they aren't able to keep things 100% civil and pleasant. I don't for a second believe the reports that Meghan fought with Kate and made her cry or gave the Queen a hard time over a tiara (as if). Again, I find it believable that William possibly cautioned Harry about moving too fast with Meghan but I doubt they had some big dramatic falling out over it.
Lainey says she heard that a lot of the gossip came out from background research for the biography on Charles which didn't make it into the book but that "palace courtiers" wanted people to know. Clearly, their objective in sharing these little nuggets of information was to take Meghan (and Harry) down a few notches from the high of the positive press coverage from the Australian tour and the announcement of their pregnancy. Her theory, which I buy, was that these unknown courtiers wanted to send Meghan and Harry a message that they're not the stars of this particular show and force them back into their second fiddle positions behind Will and Kate. I think whoever is leaking to the press should be more careful though. The target of this smear campaign was obviously Meghan but imho they all ended up looking not that great (and since Meghan was so clearly the target of a take down attempt, she ends up looking the least bad). Read together, the BRF looks whiny and dysfunctional and not a very nice place. Like, yeah, I would want to move and distance myself from all the drama in this situation too.
I do think it's a little weird that William and Kate or Charles and Camilla haven't made a show of force in support of Meghan and Harry. All they would have to do is appear together in photos looking warm and happy in each other's presence.
eta: by not doing anything to show camaraderie with Meghan, I kind of feel like they're hanging her out to dry a bit, kwim? I know it's not the norm for them to engage in obvious PR like that but this is not a normal situation. Meghan is very new to their family and she's been the target of over two weeks of sustained, negative, racist press. I feel like they should do something to say that none of this is true.
I am guessing the stories have a grain of truth in that, for example, Kate had a conversation with Meghan and then cried. Kate was pregnant. I cried when I was pregnant because my apple was too sweet and juicy. Gossip just needs that little seed of truth to grow.
I am guessing the stories have a grain of truth in that, for example, Kate had a conversation with Meghan and then cried. Kate was pregnant. I cried when I was pregnant because my apple was too sweet and juicy. Gossip just needs that little seed of truth to grow.
This is a good example of what Lainey was talking about though. So I think you're right with what you're saying. Kate was seen leaving the fitting with Meghan in tears. But, if you notice, none of the stories about this gave any detail about why she was crying. It makes the most sense to assume that she saw Charlotte looking all grown up and felt nostalgic and that produced tears. This is not abnormal for any mother, let alone a newly post partum one. But, when combined with the information that the two two duchesses don't really have that much in common, don't get along that well, and that Meghan was being super stressy about the wedding, the implication was that Meghan made Kate cry. When that was never actually said but the headlines all trumpeted that.
When people were like "eh, I don't really believe that", whoever is doing the leaking upped the anty by putting out the story that the two couples had a falling out shortly before Christmas because Harry was pissed William didn't roll out the red carpet for Meghan. Supposedly it was so bad that Charles felt he had to intervene and that's why Harry and Meghan were invited to stay for the holiday. After that story came out, another one came out saying that the visit didn't go well and that Kate had to have a "ghastly" conversation with Meghan about her behavior with staff. Like what? Who would believe that? I think that's the only time the palace has come out and actually denied one of these stories.
Someone or some group of people are conducting a smear campaign against Meghan. The subtext to all of these stories is: Meghan needs to learn her place. It's so gross and racist and elitist it's almost unbelievable.
CheeringCharm, my theory is similar to yours in that I think someone wants to take Meghan down a peg or two. I don't know who is behind it - maybe just some old fashioned racist royal staff who don't like the black American actress - but the longer this goes on the worse the royal family looks. The fact that they denied the one story but none of the others is problematic in my opinion. Had they just kept their silence, then these stories may have burned themselves out.
I think that someone opened the floodgates - maybe it was the Christmas story, IDK - and now there is an active campaign to smear Meghan and there is just enough truth in these stories to keep the interest up. Like the Kate crying story - I can believe that she cried at the dress fitting while not believing it had anything to do with Meghan - but for many that is the "logical" conclusion. Same with the air fresheners. I can believe that Meghan asked if they could do something re: the smell in the chapel without believing that she was a diva over it and it caused a huge ruckus.
I do think that Andrew leaked the tiara story though. I don't think its true, but it shows that Meghan is a spoiled diva who acts entitled to jewels while ALSO emphasizing the difference for Eugenie as a "blood princess."
I mean? Who keeps these British royals in the spotlight? Americans. Who visits their tourist traps? Americans. So I think it would be a terrible mistake for them to turn on our American Princess.
I also wonder if Meghan had like one bad interaction with a staff member and/or Kate on a day when she wasn’t feeling great (because you know we were all our best selves during pregnancy!) and now that’s being turned into ZOMG A THING!
It honestly reminds me of all the “a friend of a friend is in the Secret Service and swears that Hillary is a total bitch to everyone” thing. Like Hillary has had SS protection for-fucking-ever. She’s probably had a bad interaction or two that’s become THE NARRATIVE.
CheeringCharm , my theory is similar to yours in that I think someone wants to take Meghan down a peg or two. I don't know who is behind it - maybe just some old fashioned racist royal staff who don't like the black American actress - but the longer this goes on the worse the royal family looks. The fact that they denied the one story but none of the others is problematic in my opinion. Had they just kept their silence, then these stories may have burned themselves out.
I think that someone opened the floodgates - maybe it was the Christmas story, IDK - and now there is an active campaign to smear Meghan and there is just enough truth in these stories to keep the interest up. Like the Kate crying story - I can believe that she cried at the dress fitting while not believing it had anything to do with Meghan - but for many that is the "logical" conclusion. Same with the air fresheners. I can believe that Meghan asked if they could do something re: the smell in the chapel without believing that she was a diva over it and it caused a huge ruckus.
I do think that Andrew leaked the tiara story though. I don't think its true, but it shows that Meghan is a spoiled diva who acts entitled to jewels while ALSO emphasizing the difference for Eugenie as a "blood princess."
The tiara story was the most ridiculous one imo. Who would believe that Meghan would be so stupid as to talk back to the Queen or give her a hard time? No one with any common sense would do that. lol
I think most of the stories are hogwash but I do feel bad for Meghan that she's having to deal with this. Most royals get a much longer honeymoon with the press than she's had. I wonder what she thinks about all of this or if she feels support from the family at all.
Post by CheeringCharm on Dec 6, 2018 9:35:48 GMT -5
Thinking about this more though, it's a little weird that with all of this going on in the background in the past couple weeks, the big PR departure on the part of the royals was to release photos of the most recent diplomatic reception to the public. What did the photos show? The Queen, Camilla, and Kate all dressed in white and making a clear statement about the line of power. Meghan and Harry had another event that night but why not take photos with them to show support for Meghan in all of this? Why are they waiting till Christmas to release their "happy family" photos? Because the thing is, most of the stories combine criticism of Meghan with praise of Kate. Meghan is a demanding diva who is hard to get along with while Kate is "unflappable" and "regal" and "conciliatory." Don't they see the racism and classicism in those comparisons? It's so bizarre that they think that is enough.
CheeringCharm, yup I think the tiara story was stupid and unbelievable which is why I think it came from Andrew lol.
And I agree that I think releasing the pics of the diplomatic reception was a weird move. I'm sure it meant nothing - I'm sure it was more about maybe being one of the Queen's last ones, or trying to generate general good will for the royals or something - but it was a weird move. It's like in some ways they are very good about PR and in other ways, not so much.
It's pretty apparent Andrew planted the tiara story. The queen wouldn't let the interloper wear emeralds, onky a true princess is worthy, blah blah. bit the other stuff is so OTT, I can only assume it's Princess Michael because she is evil and probably bitter she has to move.
I am guessing the stories have a grain of truth in that, for example, Kate had a conversation with Meghan and then cried. Kate was pregnant. I cried when I was pregnant because my apple was too sweet and juicy. Gossip just needs that little seed of truth to grow.
This is where I am. I think it’s probably all overblown and that there are absolutely people in the palace (royal or employees) who resist change and resent Meghan. But I do generally believe there’s a small bit of truth to every celebrity rumor. lol
The one I can totally see is William going to Harry to have a conversation about being sure Meghan was the right one. Their courtship was relatively short by royal standards. I don’t believe it was with malicious intent or even anything personal against Meghan. More like a protective brother giving advice.
Thinking about this more though, it's a little weird that with all of this going on in the background in the past couple weeks, the big PR departure on the part of the royals was to release photos of the most recent diplomatic reception to the public. What did the photos show? The Queen, Camilla, and Kate all dressed in white and making a clear statement about the line of power. Meghan and Harry had another event that night but why not take photos with them to show support for Meghan in all of this? Why are they waiting till Christmas to release their "happy family" photos? Because the thing is, most of the stories combine criticism of Meghan with praise of Kate. Meghan is a demanding diva who is hard to get along with while Kate is "unflappable" and "regal" and "conciliatory." Don't they see the racism and classicism in those comparisons? It's so bizarre that they think that is enough.
The palace has been pushing the line of succession HARD the last 3 months or so.
I suspect the reception pics have to do with that. It’s also why I won’t be surprised if W&K attend the next opening of parliament. I think the pics have little to do with the Meghan story beyond hoping To change the subject but were pre-planned to keep up the blitz on W&K as the future they’ve been pushing