Real Housewives of NJ... tell me I'm not the only

[eclaires]

one still watching.

I want to talk about it, and MH refuses to indulge my obsession and listen to me rant.

[OuchOuchMyCrouch]

I watched it - so, is Theresa being genuine or did she set Melissa Up?

[shopgirl07]

I'm still watching even though I think I hate it.

I think the whole Melissa stripper thing was a storyline/setup by Bravo.

[eddy]

I would love to discuss it.

[eclaires]

Sept 19, 2012 14:12:32 GMT -5 shopgirl07 said:

I'm still watching even though I think I hate it.

I think the whole Melissa stripper thing was a storyline/setup by Bravo.

this is where I am. I definitely think Teresa is mostly innocent, and if this is the "big thing" that Caroline and everyone have been promising all season, I will die laughing.

I've come to the conclusion that Caroline is mostly angry with Tre because she is jealous of her "success" and being so "famous." I use quotes because her life is obviously kind of a wreck, but she gets publicity off of it and has been pretty savvy about making money off her notoriety.

IDK. 2 years ago, I never would have thought I'd be all I HATE CAROLINE SO MUCH, and liking Teresa Guidice, but this season has put me there.

[eclaires]

I also think they need to get rid of almost everyone like they did in NY. I think they should maybe keep Teresa and Melissa (even though I think Melissa pretty much sucks - when she's not trying to be on Caroline's good side, she's pretty funny and enjoyable to watch).

[EloiseWeenie]

I don't think Caroline is "jealous" of Teresa, I think she's embarrassed that she got duped by Teresa. She believed all of Teresa's shenanigans, and when she started spending time with Theresa's family, Caroline realized that they weren't the sad sack that Teresa had made them out to be. Then with the obvious mask that Theresa wears, and constantly finding out stuff via tabloids, it's enough to want to be done. I get the frustration that Jacqueline has with wanting Teresa to tell her what's going on, yet Teresa just doesn't get it.

Teresa used to be fun and happy go lucky. Now she's trying to hold on to that, while all of her dirt is exploding all around her. Her life is bipolar, and she's straddling both sides. I really hate Joe, but she will never leave him because of pride.

[eddy]

I agree with Eloise
I don't think Caroline wants fame like Theresa does. I think she is mad at herself for falling for her shit. I think she is also embarassed that she stooped to Tre's level.

I also think the stripper thing was staged. Kim looks like she has been roooooaaaad hard. Ick

[EloiseWeenie]

Oh yeah, I forgot to address Kim D. That chick is Cray Cray. Her face had glee when talking to salon boy about Melissa. Glee. Also, I really hate the name/spelling of "Posche." It's posh or porsche, pick one!

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

I'm watching! I can't decide how I feel about Teresa. She is crazy and weird and yet I don't know if she's THIS evil. I do think Andy Cohen tried to do a redemption arc for Melissa because he has a hard-on for Joe Gorga and doesn't like Juicy Joe because he's made homophobic comments. Which I guess is his right as an executive producer but still, the agenda is wearing thin on ME.
Also, Jac needs an intervention or something. She pretty much always looks boozy.

[sporky]

I think Caroline is more upset at the issues within her own family and the fact that Dina is so close to Teresa. I also can't wait to see how the stripper thing gets handled at the reunion, because from my perspective, it's pretty freaking obvious that Teresa had absolutely nothing to do with that.

[shopgirl07]

Caroline is a total fame whore. Come on, you don't sign up for a reality show and put your entire family on it if you don't want drama and attention.

Plus her kids are total dweebs. Was that too mean?

[eclaires]

Sept 19, 2012 17:02:43 GMT -5 shopgirl07 said:

Caroline is a total fame whore. Come on, you don't sign up for a reality show and put your entire family on it if you don't want drama and attention.

Plus her kids are total dweebs. Was that too mean?

This is how I feel. I also think the producers (Andy Cohen) like the Gorgas, which is why she's gotten a fairly good edit this season, even though she basically came on the show to "take Teresa down" and was doing a bunch of shit with crazy Danielle before she was on it (which ironically is what they all claim Teresa has done - setting up Melissa with this stripper thing).

Really, I think Caroline must have pissed someone off because her edit has been HORRIBLE. She looks haggard, too. I think she thought this show would be the Manzo show with her "children of privilege" being a huge part of it - but they're finding unless they film with Teresa, they don't get airtime.

But even with all that, I don't care THAT much. What bugs me is how crazy the producers have been and how they have gotten involved. The rumors on the interwebz are that they basically set this whole thing up and hoped Teresa would take the bait - when she didn't, they went ahead with it and apparently there's some dubbed convo in the season finale that they totally butchered to make Teresa look guilty. I think their involvement has been super excessive with all this - even though I know reality shows aren't actually reality.

[8675309]

Sept 19, 2012 18:17:46 GMT -5 eclaires said:

Sept 19, 2012 17:02:43 GMT -5 shopgirl07 said:

Caroline is a total fame whore. Come on, you don't sign up for a reality show and put your entire family on it if you don't want drama and attention.

Plus her kids are total dweebs. Was that too mean?

This is how I feel. I also think the producers (Andy Cohen) like the Gorgas, which is why she's gotten a fairly good edit this season, even though she basically came on the show to "take Teresa down" and was doing a bunch of shit with crazy Danielle before she was on it (which ironically is what they all claim Teresa has done - setting up Melissa with this stripper thing).

Really, I think Caroline must have pissed someone off because her edit has been HORRIBLE. She looks haggard, too. I think she thought this show would be the Manzo show with her "children of privilege" being a huge part of it - but they're finding unless they film with Teresa, they don't get airtime.

But even with all that, I don't care THAT much. What bugs me is how crazy the producers have been and how they have gotten involved. The rumors on the interwebz are that they basically set this whole thing up and hoped Teresa would take the bait - when she didn't, they went ahead with it and apparently there's some dubbed convo in the season finale that they totally butchered to make Teresa look guilty. I think their involvement has been super excessive with all this - even though I know reality shows aren't actually reality.

This is where I'm at 100%. Do you have any interwebz links you can share? As sad and desperate as this sounds....I love this kind of juice.

[atouchofklasse]

Sept 19, 2012 14:24:15 GMT -5 eclaires said:

I also think they need to get rid of almost everyone like they did in NY. I think they should maybe keep Teresa and Melissa (even though I think Melissa pretty much sucks - when she's not trying to be on Caroline's good side, she's pretty funny and enjoyable to watch).

All of this

[atouchofklasse]

Sept 19, 2012 17:02:43 GMT -5 shopgirl07 said:

Caroline is a total fame whore. Come on, you don't sign up for a reality show and put your entire family on it if you don't want drama and attention.

Plus her kids are total dweebs. Was that too mean?

Agree with this too

[shopgirl07]

Yeah, I'm really getting sick of all the scripting and set-ups by Bravo. It was really over the top on the new RHOMiami too.

I totally agree that Andy likes the Gorgas and LOATHES Teresa. It was so obvious at last year's reunion, he was such an ass to Teresa. I mean, she deserved it, but his bias is so clear.

[iammalcolmx]

I need Melissa to admit she is part black like yesterday.

[atouchofklasse]

Kathy and Rich can go too. Ick.

They need to revamp this cast. I'm loving rhonyc this season!

[eclaires]

Kathy and Rich are just nasty. He is always saying things that make me go EWWWW.

If it were up to me, I'd keep Teresa and Melissa, because when they aren't trying to kill each other, they are pretty funny together - the RV trip was pretty good. The rest can go. New blood is needed.

Oh and I mostly read the forums on TWOP. There have been some twitter links there and then some blog links - I'll see if I can find them.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

Sept 19, 2012 19:55:19 GMT -5 eclaires said:

Kathy and Rich are just nasty. He is always saying things that make me go EWWWW.

If it were up to me, I'd keep Teresa and Melissa, because when they aren't trying to kill each other, they are pretty funny together - the RV trip was pretty good. The rest can go. New blood is needed.

Oh and I mostly read the forums on TWOP. There have been some twitter links there and then some blog links - I'll see if I can find them.

I do this too! I read the shit about the producers being behind a lot of this crap. Bummer.