Post by karinothing on Sept 19, 2012 14:32:11 GMT -5
Did anyone watch?
I am mixed on what I thought. This season was interesting (a laughed a lot, but wasn't too invested in the story lines).
There were some things I really disliked about the finale. I HATED that the Rabbi died. I wanted Nancy to just find someone that was good to her and could teach her to be stable.
I also didn't like the idea that Stevie didn't know who he was. Sure he learned new info about his father, but he seemed like he had a pretty decent upbrining since Nancy seemingly tried to be involved in his life and he seemed like his adopted dad was awesome to him.
I think Silas and Shane ended up sort of where I thought they would end up. I am glad Silas seems happy.
I am glad Andy Silas thought Andy was happy, but he just seemed really cold to Nancy, although I guess it was what he needed to do for his own sanity. Glad he had a kid.
I liked how everything was in the future.
I was left feeling kind of depressed for Nancy. Now she has no one at home and no business jsut a ton of money. Which I guess isn't a horrible situation to be in, but it doesn't seem like she would be happy. I thought it was stupid that Andy was telling her that she finally gets to do what she wants, when she has technically been doing that forever.
It made me feel really sad for Nancy, especially when her DIL was being such a bitch about letting Nancy have a relationship with her granddaughter. I've never had a lot of sympathy for her character, but she just seemed so lonely and cast aside.
Also, was this the first time we've seen Nancy actually partake of her wares.
I thought it was stupid that Andy was telling her that she finally gets to do what she wants, when she has technically been doing that forever.
LOL. That is very true.
Yeahl.... I also don't really know what I thought. I did like that it was i nthe future and you could really see where they were.
But yet, I feel like they ended it w/ a WHOLE lot of loose ends. Not that I care that much, but if you're going to jump forward, why not tie things up.
But yeah- why did the Rabbi have to die?
And Doug - o.k., his son was never really a part of the show. Why so much storyline dedicated to them making up (although his kidnapping his son was pretty funny!)? But yet, I would have LOVED to have seen Celia. Where was she? (Although their DD being Bruce now - LOL).
I also don't know that I really understood the gulf between her and Andy. On one hand I did, but then the total silence he's given her for years - I don't know that I felt their last interaction in the previous episode really set that up. I found it a little confusing.
But really, when I think about it more- yeah, I felt kind of depressed for her, but maybe that's the whole point. She's lived this life that she's done by her own rules, and now - she's kind of paying the price. Her kids aren't close to her, she doesn't really have any close firends, no husband.... she's done what she wanted w/ no regard to others, and now she's all alone...
To add- she was always able to get everyone to do what she wanted. Silas and Andy specifically- but in this episode, they both clearly were like "no - you don't get to dictate our lives anymore".
Post by karinothing on Sept 19, 2012 14:46:16 GMT -5
I agree abotu Celia. I expected to see her! And I didn't understand that part of the show where it was Doug's son and Nancy. I mean maybe there was more to that from the first season that I don't remember? I don't know.
Yeah, the last interaction in the episode before confused me. I figured Andy ran away because hello they just did it on the spot his brother died. But to ignore her for years? I Figured he would just get his own life, and then come back.
I guess you are right about that being the point (he being all alone) but man it was depressing!
I was really bummed about no Celia and I agree Nancy had the worst hair, but overall I really liked the episode.
I loved the future details like the phones, the cleaners, the high carb diet.
I feel liked they killed off the Rabbi sort of as "ok, lets give Nancy one more dead husband." I mean he was number 4! But it also just would not have felt right for her to get a happy ending after what she put all her family members through.
I was happy for Andy and Silas, and Shane could have been worse I guess. I actually thought the Doug storyline was really funny. I think they wanted to offer him some redemption with the storyline with his son, because he did treat him really badly and then abandon his whole family.
I also thought the strained relationship with her daughter in law was pretty realistic. I don't think she was being a bitch, just protective of her husband and baby. As much as I felt bad for Nancy, I totally got it on Megan's side.
I am glad they went into the future, I wish more shows did that for the finale.
"Josh Wilson (Justin Chatwin, appearing in the pilot and finale only) is Doug's oldest child and only son. He sells pot to small children against Nancy's orders. When she learns that Josh has sex with other men, Nancy threatens to tell Doug about Josh's sexual orientation if Josh continues to deal against her orders."
"Josh Wilson (Justin Chatwin, appearing in the pilot and finale only) is Doug's oldest child and only son. He sells pot to small children against Nancy's orders. When she learns that Josh has sex with other men, Nancy threatens to tell Doug about Josh's sexual orientation if Josh continues to deal against her orders."
Kind of vaguely remember that, but VERY vaguely.
I remembered all that, but didn't realize he was the same actor from Shameless until the finale. I think he is cute. I dont remember thinking Doug's son was hot or anything.
"Josh Wilson (Justin Chatwin, appearing in the pilot and finale only) is Doug's oldest child and only son. He sells pot to small children against Nancy's orders. When she learns that Josh has sex with other men, Nancy threatens to tell Doug about Josh's sexual orientation if Josh continues to deal against her orders."
Kind of vaguely remember that, but VERY vaguely.
I remembered all that, but didn't realize he was the same actor from Shameless until the finale. I think he is cute. I dont remember thinking Doug's son was hot or anything.
I pictured him as Christian Grey when I muddled through 50 Shades.
I loved that Andy didn't take Nancy back (backish?). Feel a little sad for Shane but he can still get his act together. Stevie was funny and I'm glad she's letting him go to boarding school instead of making everything about her some more.
I thought Nancy was going to kill herself at the end.
I liked how it came full circle with Doug's son.
The fact that Stevie didn't fully understand who he was didn't shock me. Silas had a similar experience a few seasons back when he learned Lars was his dad.
I thought Nancy was going to kill herself at the end.
I liked how it came full circle with Doug's son.
The fact that Stevie didn't fully understand who he was didn't shock me. Silas had a similar experience a few seasons back when he learned Lars was his dad.
Yeah I guess it seemed different to me since it wasn't like Stevie didn't know who his dad was. He always knew he was the mayor of whatever, just didn't know he was involved in drugs. I don't know, maybe that would be life altering...
It just seemed odd from the jewish standpoint like his rabbi dad still raised him, I don't know.