Crazy friend who filed emergency petiton?

[sparkles17]

She actually won. Well, part of it anyway. The Judge did deem it not an emergency, but also stated that her ex has to provide the indentity of anyone staying in his residence on the nights that the kids stay overnight.

I can't believe that a Judge can order that! My friend emailed me the order as an "in your face" kind of thing, but I am shocked. This has to be some sort of violation of the 14th Amendment or 4th or something. Yikes! At least the judge didn't say that they Criminal and Mental Histories had to be provided, but still.

[Deleted]

But didn't he already provide the woman's name? I thought your friend was demanding more info and that was the issue. But I may not remember correctly.

[sparkles17]

My friend knows her name she already Google and Facebook searched her. She just wanted the ex to provide her the name and criminal and mental history checks on her and her children. She wasn't provided the name though she found it on her own. P

[Deleted]

Sept 19, 2012 15:52:07 GMT -5 @sparkles17 said:

My friend knows her name she already Google and Facebook searched her. She just wanted the ex to provide her the name and criminal and mental history checks on her and her children. She wasn't provided the name though she found it on her own. P

Oh for fuck's sake. I don't think the judges ruling was that out of line and I've heard of similar things. It's the criminal and mental checks that seem nuts. And I mean really what can she do about it anyways?

[turtle1120]

Sept 19, 2012 16:01:59 GMT -5 @pdx18 said:

Sept 19, 2012 15:52:07 GMT -5 @sparkles17 said:

My friend knows her name she already Google and Facebook searched her. She just wanted the ex to provide her the name and criminal and mental history checks on her and her children. She wasn't provided the name though she found it on her own. P

Oh for fuck's sake. I don't think the judges ruling was that out of line and I've heard of similar things. It's the criminal and mental checks that seem nuts. And I mean really what can she do about it anyways?

I don't think the judge's ruling was that out of line either. Our custody judgment says we have to provide 30 days notice if someone else is going to be living there. She should have a right to know who else is there with her kids. Obviously the criminal and mental (is there even such a thing?) background checks are going overboard.

[doriswe]

What in the heck is a mental history check??

ETA: Mental health records aren't open to the public.

[Deleted]

Providing the identity does not give her a win at all.
So, all he has to do is say jane doe is staying at my house...end of victory. He didnt say he had to provide any criminal check did he?

[turtle1120]

Sept 19, 2012 16:09:55 GMT -5 doriswe said:

What in the heck is a mental history check??

ETA: Mental health records aren't open to the public.

I don't even think there is such a thing.

[letyourselfgo]

I had this happen. Judge made him get a psych eval.
Mental health check = psych eval.....I think.

[stephbfan]

Sept 19, 2012 16:12:55 GMT -5 mags said:

Providing the identity does not give her a win at all.
So, all he has to do is say jane doe is staying at my house...end of victory. He didnt say he had to provide any criminal check did he?

This is what I was thinking.

She didn't win anything. She already knew the name of the girl and she was denied the other stuff she was asking for. It must be pretty nice to throw hundreds of dollars and time in court to have a judge grant you what you already have.

Your friend is nuts!

[sparkles17]

I don't disagree that my friend should know who will be living there when the kids visit. What I do disagree with is the court ordering the release of that information. As the GF, she should have a certain expectation to privacy and now her name is going to be included in a public record w/o her consent. I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to know the law, but this just doesn't sit well with me.

I'm not sure what a Mental Health check is either, but I'm surprised the judge didn't speak to that demand because mental health history should be protected under HIPAA.

[Deleted]

Sept 19, 2012 16:47:04 GMT -5 @sparkles17 said:

I don't disagree that my friend should know who will be living there when the kids visit. What I do disagree with is the court ordering the release of that information. As the GF, she should have a certain expectation to privacy and now her name is going to be included in a public record w/o her consent. I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to know the law, but this just doesn't sit well with me.

I'm not sure what a Mental Health check is either, but I'm surprised the judge didn't speak to that demand because mental health history should be protected under HIPAA.

Oh so he had to turn it over at the court hearing? That does seem wrong. I mean it should be an expectation moving forward giving her the option to decide if she should or should not partake in those actions which would require her name be released if it wasn't already in the divorce settlement.

And I'm guess mental health check wasn't addressed because it's something totally made up by your friend and the judge probably has better things to do.

[jojoandleo]

Sept 19, 2012 16:47:04 GMT -5 @sparkles17 said:

I don't disagree that my friend should know who will be living there when the kids visit. What I do disagree with is the court ordering the release of that information. As the GF, she should have a certain expectation to privacy and now her name is going to be included in a public record w/o her consent. I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to know the law, but this just doesn't sit well with me.

I'm not sure what a Mental Health check is either, but I'm surprised the judge didn't speak to that demand because mental health history should be protected under HIPAA.

Did the judge say he had to provide this shit or just the identity of her? Just the identity, meh, more-I think he crossed a line. You can't force someone to get a psych eval to date someone with kids.

If he only ruled he had to provide the identity, she didn't win shit. She gets a first and last name, that is it and she already has that.

[BlueBayou]

Your friend is ridiculous to have an expectation of criminal history checks. Even law enforcement has rules of when they can pull criminal history and they have to explain why in a report. Mental health check?? Wtf? Like all his gfs have to see a shrink to be evaluated? I'm sorry your friend is off her rocker. Identity is name and age to make sure she is not a sex offender. Period.

[BlueBayou]

Are you sure the info was for release in a court doc and not just to be provided to her? Sorry i feel like I'm missing something...

[Deleted]

Sept 19, 2012 15:15:13 GMT -5 @sparkles17 said:

She actually won. Well, part of it anyway. The Judge did deem it not an emergency, but also stated that her ex has to provide the indentity of anyone staying in his residence on the nights that the kids stay overnight.
I can't believe that a Judge can order that! My friend emailed me the order as an "in your face" kind of thing, but I am shocked. This has to be some sort of violation of the 14th Amendment or 4th or something. Yikes! At least the judge didn't say that they Criminal and Mental Histories had to be provided, but still.

Again, she won nothing.
All he has to do is say sam adams is at my house. end of story. she won nothing.

[blackkitty]

I am glad that a "mental history" is not a thing.

Also, I don't think it's a big deal to want to know the name of the person hanging around your kid. And YOU (her in this case) can run a pro background check herself.

In my divorce agreement it states that I get the name of ayone living with my kid.

[jojoandleo]

Sept 20, 2012 5:37:29 GMT -5 mags said:

Sept 19, 2012 15:15:13 GMT -5 @sparkles17 said:

She actually won. Well, part of it anyway. The Judge did deem it not an emergency, but also stated that her ex has to provide the indentity of anyone staying in his residence on the nights that the kids stay overnight.
I can't believe that a Judge can order that! My friend emailed me the order as an "in your face" kind of thing, but I am shocked. This has to be some sort of violation of the 14th Amendment or 4th or something. Yikes! At least the judge didn't say that they Criminal and Mental Histories had to be provided, but still.

Again, she won nothing.
All he has to do is say sam adams is at my house. end of story. she won nothing.

:Y: :Y: Yup. She is stupid. It is not uncommon to be able to get the name of someone in the house with your child. She wanted crazy shit and she DID NOT GET IT!

[sparkles17]

Sept 19, 2012 22:07:47 GMT -5 BlueBayou said:

Are you sure the info was for release in a court doc and not just to be provided to her? Sorry i feel like I'm missing something...

Actually, I'm not. I just made that assumption, but reading what was written here, it sounds like maybe the might not have been the case. I'm not sure, and truth be told, I'm trying to engage my friend as little as possible in this whole matter, so I don't want to ask and encourage her, kwim?

[sparkles17]

Sept 20, 2012 7:24:00 GMT -5 mintchocochip said:

Sept 20, 2012 7:20:31 GMT -5 @sparkles17 said:

Actually, I'm not. I just made that assumption, but reading what was written here, it sounds like maybe the might not have been the case. I'm not sure, and truth be told, I'm trying to engage my friend as little as possible in this whole matter, so I don't want to ask and encourage her, kwim?

Yeah, I have a feeling this is really on an off the record basis so it wouldn't be in a court document. It sounds like you're really inflamed over this, as you should be because your friend is nuts, but the truth is that the identity of someone, unless they're doing something protected, isn't generally undiscoverable. Her name isn't an invasion of privacy--she has no right to privacy here--she's dating the father of your friends kids so it's ok if her identity is made known.

As a GF, I'm upset by what my friend is doing, because if I were on the receiving end of a court order demanding my personal info, I would be upset. I do agree though, it's just a name. Heck, you could find out plenty about me with my name and Google It's probably just that I've tried to be there to support my friend, I know how hard this is, but her behaviour lately, and her gross overreactions to things, I just don't think that I can take her drama anymore.