Where in the fuck have you been that the white woman's opinion of what's racist isn't the most common fucking opinion here? Bitch, I didn't miss the point, but you clearly fucking have.
When did I say I was the expert on what's racist? I'm not and I didn't. And I'm sure as hell not rewriting history. I have said clearly and many times what farmer posted was racist and inexcusable. She apologized and said it was egregious and it's not up to me who says that's forgivable. She continues to be my friend and I guess that's all I can say or should have said.
then what do you make of the truckerhat name on HIH?
I would mostly be curious if kirkette still hangs out with Miso. She really helped her out with the Emmy stuff, so I would think seeing Miso continue to post alongside Booby would be hurtful. But they may have a different understanding.
Hell no she doesn't hang out with her any more. And hurtful is an understatement. Regardless of my own personal feelings on all this, she chose a side by not chosing sides.
You’re right. Hurtful was a huge understatement. I assumed that would be the case, but it felt like jigsy* was implying otherwise.
You're missing my point. If you want to be done with or block farmer, fine. I don't care. But apparently it's wrong to hold a different opinion here. M'kay.
I have no idea what your point is. It's wrong to hold a different opinion? Says who? People argue all of the time on here. This is the weakest argument. Are you going to tell people you feel persecuted now? Feelin scared?
People see what they want to see and befriend people they want to. It's just rich as hell that the miso/farmer brigade is so mum on this when they'd be lighting it up for anyone else.
Hell no she doesn't hang out with her any more. And hurtful is an understatement. Regardless of my own personal feelings on all this, she chose a side by not chosing sides.
You’re right. Hurtful was a huge understatement. I assumed that would be the case, but it felt like pantsparty was implying otherwise.
I have no idea what your point is. It's wrong to hold a different opinion? Says who? People argue all of the time on here. This is the weakest argument. Are you going to tell people you feel persecuted now? Feelin scared?
People see what they want to see and befriend people they want to. It's just rich as hell that the miso/farmer brigade is so mum on this when they'd be lighting it up for anyone else.
I'm not really the weaponizing tears type.
I'd think differently except for the whole hysterical "I guess it's wrong to have an opinion on here!"
Seeing the name sunny sally reminded me of sally walker. She joined lipsense, then came back all crazy one night, right? I can’t remember specifics, but I think I laughed.
Seeing the name sunny sally reminded me of sally walker. She joined lipsense, then came back all crazy one night, right? I can’t remember specifics, but I think I laughed.
I'd think differently except for the whole hysterical "I guess it's wrong to have an opinion on here!"
Well I didn't mean it hysterically, but it is a dumb and defensive phrase. So.
Serious question- how do you personally reconcile “she didn’t meant to be hurtful” with “she went to another board and called herself TruckerHat”? I just can’t figure that one out.
Seeing the name sunny sally reminded me of sally walker. She joined lipsense, then came back all crazy one night, right? I can’t remember specifics, but I think I laughed.
Was she one of the ones who doesn’t wash her hands after using the bathroom?
Well I didn't mean it hysterically, but it is a dumb and defensive phrase. So.
Serious question- how do you personally reconcile “she didn’t meant to be hurtful” with “she went to another board and called herself TruckerHat”? I just can’t figure that one out.
I mean...I don't think it's funny. I guess I can't reconcile it. It doesn't really speak to remorse and it's not a good look.
I get that you can’t know a whole person from their online persona. It would be interesting to know that you’ve hung out with Miso and multiple WOC from here after everything went down and she left. But if you don’t want to talk about it anymore that’s fine too.
I don't remember exactly when she decided to leave, but I am pretty sure there have been events since then that have been attended by other posters that I am thinking of. There are some other posters who maybe have changed their opinion since everything has gone down - they have either left or have stayed mum on the subject.
“Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make it so, right in the middle of it lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce.” - Natalie Goldberg
This is why we can’t have nice things! I’ve really missed the contributions of the WOC and this place is poorer for their absence. I’m bummed to see them pop in just to deal with this bullshit again.
It's always interesting to me when the popular posters (like miso) have something happen and everyone turns on them and swears they never liked them to begin with. Makes me wonder if anyone here likes anyone, lol. If nobody likes these people why do their posts get so many responses and so much sucking up?
I am also fascinated by this phenomenon.
I think it’s about cutting down on the cognitive dissonance that occurs when someone we previously saw as nice and helpful or witty and insightful is suddenly revealed to have said and done some problematic, racist shit.
It’s like we can’t reconcile it in our minds, so we do a quick 180. But that’s also what’s so insidious about racism; we have an idea about what a racist looks like and we make excuses for anyone who doesn’t fit the profile.
Now to be fair, I think we’re all guilty of this to some degree because we live in a racist society and it’s one of the ways we perpetuate systemic racism. We buy homes in gated communities and send our kids to “good schools” and make polite conversation with Fox News-watching Aunt Betty because she babysits our kids when we need a date night. And we bite our tongues when it’s one of our own. At least until the behavior becomes so inexcusable that we finally convince ourselves that “we never liked that bitch anyway; we always knew something was off with her.”
Post by irishbride2 on Jan 25, 2019 5:46:09 GMT -5
I don’t get the revisionist history about Miso. She would act sweet and naive half the time and then be incredible harsh. When called out she would just say “that’s who I am.” Basically, “yes I’m being a cruel bitch but I’m not going to apologize” and she got away with it for years.
How you act online may not be your whole personality but it certainly is part of it. So I don’t know how people write off the above along with her defense of racists as no big deal because it’s not “her whole personality”.
Serious question- how do you personally reconcile “she didn’t meant to be hurtful” with “she went to another board and called herself TruckerHat”? I just can’t figure that one out.
I mean...I don't think it's funny. I guess I can't reconcile it. It doesn't really speak to remorse and it's not a good look.
Psst... because she's NOT SORRY about what happened, she's sorry she got caught and called out on it. Stop doubling-down here.
Farmer was given multiple chances to evaluate herself and appears to have not done so.
What she should have done was noped right the fuck out of the racist block party. And told her friends that they were being racist and appropriative on her way home. Instead it was "but I have to live here and that would be uncomfortable!"
Farmer was given multiple chances to evaluate herself and appears to have not done so.
What she should have done was noped right the fuck out of the racist block party. And told her friends that they were being racist and appropriative on her way home. Instead it was "but I have to live here and that would be uncomfortable!"
BE UNCOMFORTABLE. For Christ's sake.
And the hyperbole used suggesting that we implied she should move is hysterical. If I can live in fucking Texas and manage to have never been invited to (much less attend) a fucking Cowboys and Indians themed party, I feel like Farmville can find some not racist friends in California.
Farmer was given multiple chances to evaluate herself and appears to have not done so.
What she should have done was noped right the fuck out of the racist block party. And told her friends that they were being racist and appropriative on her way home. Instead it was "but I have to live here and that would be uncomfortable!"
BE UNCOMFORTABLE. For Christ's sake.
I’m not defending her actual actions, but white women telling a WOC to stand up to a bunch of white people about racism is out of line.
This is an excellent point although I would interpret embracing the trucker hat monikor as a sign that she’s not actually uncomfortable around her white friends bullshit.
Farmer was given multiple chances to evaluate herself and appears to have not done so.
What she should have done was noped right the fuck out of the racist block party. And told her friends that they were being racist and appropriative on her way home. Instead it was "but I have to live here and that would be uncomfortable!"
BE UNCOMFORTABLE. For Christ's sake.
I’m not defending her actual actions, but white women telling a WOC to stand up to a bunch of white people about racism is out of line.
Well I'm black, still post here and I'm still fucking irritated Farmville is able to post in here without so much as a second glance and she's still got her white allies suggesting she's apologized so all is well.
And all y’all gleeful white ladies posting about this shit so that you can entertain yourselves with past drama is pretty fucked up. The shit that went down here had real life consequences for the WOC who were here and had to deal with it all when it went down. This needs to stop. Stop using the pain of black and brown women to entertain yourselves.
Somebody says they miss Tamb? Remind that person that she uses the N word. Someone misses sfy, smo, kirkette, wandering, nata, fifi, 05heel, etc? Do some soul searching on why you don’t know if or where they are posting and why you don’t have the privilege of knowing. There is no need to constantly bring up the harmful shit that we all did to women we like and respect because we didn’t want to actually fucking listen and learn (or whatever your new tag for excusing racism is) when all this shit when down in the first place.
Respecting your position here, but this entire thread was started by a WOC specifically asking for an update on Tamb. I don’t think anyone said they actually miss her. And as I stated earlier in this thread, I’m not naming any names of posters who are gone because they left for a good reason and I’m sure don’t want to be brought up again here.
Farmer was given multiple chances to evaluate herself and appears to have not done so.
What she should have done was noped right the fuck out of the racist block party. And told her friends that they were being racist and appropriative on her way home. Instead it was "but I have to live here and that would be uncomfortable!"
BE UNCOMFORTABLE. For Christ's sake.
I’m not defending her actual actions, but white women telling a WOC to stand up to a bunch of white people about racism is out of line.
Okay, but what is the alternative? Saying nothing about a situation that I observe? I'm genuinely asking.
Remember, papie was a huge booby supporter, and y’all focus on miso. Elle was beyond absurd in her classism, and y’all focus on farmer. What is the correlation here?
People are talking about Farmer and Miso because they’re the two we know are posting alongside Booby on another message board.
I’m not defending her actual actions, but white women telling a WOC to stand up to a bunch of white people about racism is out of line.
Okay, but what is the alternative? Saying nothing about a situation that I observe? I'm genuinely asking.
I thought she was saying that expecting or demanding FV to move, or tell off her racist white friends and storm out of a party, and then rake her over the coals when she doesn’t do what we deem appropriate, is out of line. I respect that position. Plus she’s right, I’ve never been persecuted so I don’t know what it truly means to try to go along to get along.
Remember, papie was a huge booby supporter, and y’all focus on miso. Elle was beyond absurd in her classism, and y’all focus on farmer. What is the correlation here?
People are talking about Farmer and Miso because they’re the two we know are posting alongside Booby on another message board.
Oh for godssakes, Pants is over there as Beatch. Michael Scott dropped it already but Pants did not take the bait. And tbh I know she did post but I don't know how currently active she is. That place is like a word blizzard of wtf. I don't last long reading.