@ FP recalls Rock n Plays

[hopecounts]

FP recalled all models of the rock n play sleeper today

[aliciabella]

Wow! This is huge deal. My kids are way past this age but damn.

[hopecounts]

Its been a long time coming

[Deleted]

I’m glad my kids are past that age because that was what they slept in as newborns and with my first, it was the ONLY place he would sleep for longer periods besides on me. I probably would’ve had a breakdown if it had been recalled when he was a newborn.

[pixy0stix]

We're right on the edge of ds being too big. I think we're going to keep it until he's outgrown it, because I need to sleep.

[hopecounts]

pixy0stix can I strongly encourage you not to?

I don’t want to post the details in case they trigger you but just trust me it’s not worth it.

Listen to the recall.

[lucybrown]

This whole thing has me really pissed off, kind of uncharacteristically. 32 babies died and that really sucks.
But how many more fucking kids have to die before this country does something about guns?

Our priorities are screwed up.

[VillainV]

Apr 12, 2019 16:50:12 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

pixy0stix can I strongly encourage you not to?

I don’t want to post the details in case they trigger you but just trust me it’s not worth it.

Listen to the recall.

Seriously??? Did you learn nothing from the monster post in MM Moms???

[hopecounts]

I’m not saying anything more.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 12, 2019 16:50:12 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

pixy0stix can I strongly encourage you not to?

I don’t want to post the details in case they trigger you but just trust me it’s not worth it.

No, I read the details. The kids were either not buckled, or buckled improperly. They also were not old enough to be able to sit up, or right themselves. Please do not assume that I haven't read the risks.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 12, 2019 16:57:02 GMT -5 VillainV said:

Apr 12, 2019 16:50:12 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

pixy0stix can I strongly encourage you not to?

I don’t want to post the details in case they trigger you but just trust me it’s not worth it.

Listen to the recall.

Seriously??? Did you learn nothing from the monster post in MM Moms???

Do I need to wander over there?

[VillainV]

Apr 12, 2019 16:59:39 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

I’m not saying anything more.

You didn’t have to say anything. pixy0stix is perfectly capable of weighing the risks without your intervention, and she will make whatever decision she thinks is best based on the information available.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 12, 2019 16:59:39 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

I’m not saying anything more.

Look. I'm going to assume you know my history. Do you really think I'd put my child in danger?

[icedcoffee]

Apr 12, 2019 17:01:31 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Apr 12, 2019 16:57:02 GMT -5 VillainV said:

Seriously??? Did you learn nothing from the monster post in MM Moms???

Do I need to wander over there?

TLDR: she was mom shaming people who weighed the risks and decided the benefits outweighed the ridiculously small risks (30 kids in over 4 million products).

[hopecounts]

Sorry for saying anything.
The baby I know was buckled in.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 12, 2019 17:05:18 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

Sorry for saying anything.
The baby I know was buckled in.

You want to know the truth? Shit happens. All the time. It sucks, and it's horrible. I feel for anyone who has lost a child, because I've been there. I can understand wanting to spread the news. You CANNOT do this. Should I go around and start shouting at people who have made an informed decision to not send their kids to an in home daycare? This is the damn wrong fucking approach.

[hopecounts]

I apologize I’ve been helping push for this for a while so it’s a big day and this recall means a lot

[hopecounts]

I can’t say more yet.
There’s more that isn’t public yet.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 12, 2019 17:11:47 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

I apologize I’ve been helping push for this for a while so it’s a big day

Ok, I get it now. This was a way for you to honor and remember the child that was lost. Those of us ignoring the warning are trampling upon the work you have done, and it probably feels like disrespecting the memory of that child. I am sorry for your loss. I am sorry the baby died in this manner. Our decisions do not tarnish the light that little one put into this world.

[hopecounts]

Yes exactly Pixy!
I’ll do better remembering that

[namasteak]

Damn pixy I admire you and the way you are handling this.

[cville]

Apr 12, 2019 17:41:57 GMT -5 namasteak said:

Damn pixy I admire you and the way you are handling this.

Yes. Me too. My instincts were less kind.

[hopecounts]

I really am sorry guys.
I wish I could explain everything.
I believe things should be clearer soon.
There is WAAY more to the story here.

[cville]

Whatever more to the story there is, and I appreciate that this is personal and passionate for you, that doesn't change the fact that AAP recommendations are made in silos and with a goal of returning risk to 0. And parenting involves a balance of risks from pregnancy right up on through forever. And most people try to make choices in good faith and with incredible love. And nothing about shaming those choices respects that good faith or that love.

[Deleted]

Apr 12, 2019 16:43:44 GMT -5 @bugginnine said:

I’m glad my kids are past that age because that was what they slept in as newborns and with my first, it was the ONLY place he would sleep for longer periods besides on me. I probably would’ve had a breakdown if it had been recalled when he was a newborn.

Same. My son slept in it for 9 months and I’m really glad nothing happened. We tried every other way to get him to sleep and he wouldn’t. He also still woke up multiple times a night in it but it was better than the every 15 minutes he woke up on flat surfaces.

[namasteak]

Apr 12, 2019 18:33:02 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

I really am sorry guys.
I wish I could explain everything.
I believe things should be clearer soon.
There is WAAY more to the story here.

It doesn't matter that there is more to the story. YOU ARE NOT LISTENING and continuing to shame parents for their choices. 

[clseale]

Apr 12, 2019 18:33:02 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

I really am sorry guys.
I wish I could explain everything.
I believe things should be clearer soon.
There is WAAY more to the story here.

You keep saying you’re sorry, yet you keep doing the same thing OVER and OVER again. It’s like you genuinely do not understand what those words mean.

[namasteak]

Apr 12, 2019 20:42:50 GMT -5 clseale said:

Apr 12, 2019 18:33:02 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

I really am sorry guys.
I wish I could explain everything.
I believe things should be clearer soon.
There is WAAY more to the story here.

You keep saying you’re sorry, yet you keep doing the same thing OVER and OVER again. It’s like you genuinely do not understand what those words mean.

I’m currently working on this with my 3yo 😂Saying your sorry w/o changing your behavior is meaningless.

[atexan]

Apr 12, 2019 18:44:12 GMT -5 cville said:

Whatever more to the story there is, and I appreciate that this is personal and passionate for you, that doesn't change the fact that AAP recommendations are made in silos and with a goal of returning risk to 0. And parenting involves a balance of risks from pregnancy right up on through forever. And most people try to make choices in good faith and with incredible love. And nothing about shaming those choices respects that good faith or that love.

This is so true. It is sad and unfortunate that the risk will never be zero. Humans are mortal and babies are fragile. Sometimes there are underlying health conditions that went undetected. Sometimes good parents and caregivers make mistakes because they are human too. Sometimes there are just accidents that no one could have predicted.

But can we not shame parents for just trying to get some sleep? Sleep deprived parents are risky to babies, too.

[namasteak]

Found in Mothering the New Mother by Sally Placksin