@@ MT man assaults 13 y/o for not removing hat during anthem

[redheadbaker]

www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/06/man-assaulted-year-old-because-he-was-disrespecting-national-anthem-witness-says/

A Montana man allegedly slammed a boy’s head to the ground at a county fair because the 13-year-old kept his hat on during the national anthem, a witness told local news outlets.

“He was bleeding out of his ears, seizing on the ground, just not coherent,” Hennick told the Missoulian. As startled spectators closed on Brockway, Hennick said he offered a simple defense for his actions.

“He said (the boy) was disrespecting the national anthem so he had every right to do that,” she added.

[isabel]

I can’t seem to read WaPo anymore. It always tells me I’ve used up all my articles, but there’s no way that’s already true for this month.

Anyway, your description is pretty shocking. He was charged, right?

[redheadbaker]

Aug 6, 2019 19:55:07 GMT -5 isabel said:

I can’t seem to read WaPo anymore. It always tells me I’ve used up all my articles, but there’s no way that’s already true for this month.

Anyway, your description is pretty shocking. He was charged, right?

Yes, he was charged. 

[livinitup]

So, in this guy’s world view, 1st Amendment Rights do not extend to NOT genuflecting to our anthem.

Makes sense.

Because beating a child until his ears bleed is an America value??

Sure, asshole.

[elleblue]

Aug 6, 2019 20:18:18 GMT -5 livinitup said:

So, in this guy’s world view, 1st Amendment Rights do not extend to NOT genuflecting to our anthem.

Makes sense.

Because beating a child until his ears bleed is an America value??

Sure, asshole.

He fractured the boy's skull (temporal skull fractures for those who can't read the specifics of the article). People are so emboldened that they're certain violence is an appropriate response. Sickening.

[debatethis]

This asshole also pulled a gun on a family a few years ago and was charged then, too. www.missoulacurrent.com/government/2019/08/national-anthem-assault/

[isabel]

Aug 6, 2019 21:19:41 GMT -5 debatethis said:

This asshole also pulled a gun on a family a few years ago and was charged then, too. www.missoulacurrent.com/government/2019/08/national-anthem-assault/

So we have black men locked up for selling an ounce of weed, but this guy is out on the streets slamming small children into the ground and threatening people with guns, but it's cool. No worries. God, what a fucked up reality we live in.

[suburbanzookeeper]

If you want to see his mug shot and couldn't get the article to load, I'm sure this will confirm your guesses about what he looks like: nypost.com/2019/08/06/man-brutally-attacks-teen-for-refusing-to-remove-hat-during-national-anthem/

[WOT?*]

RELEASED ON HIS OWN RECOGNIZANCE?
They were seeking $100K bail, which I think was too freaking low for the incident and his history, but the judge RELEASED HIM ROR??? Get that white-male-privilege judge out of there.

And in the gun assault, he was sentenced to ten years probation, ALL OF WHICH WERE SUSPENDED. He just walked up to a car, brandished a gun and threatened to kill them. WHAT THE FUCK?

I have no words for the rage this has incited as you can tell.

[mrsukyankee]

Aug 7, 2019 0:08:12 GMT -5 WOT?* said:

RELEASED ON HIS OWN RECOGNIZANCE?
They were seeking $100K bail, which I think was too freaking low for the incident and his history, but the judge RELEASED HIM ROR??? Get that white-male-privilege judge out of there.

And in the gun assault, he was sentenced to ten years probation, ALL OF WHICH WERE SUSPENDED. He just walked up to a car, brandished a gun and threatened to kill them. WHAT THE FUCK?

I have no words for the rage this has incited as you can tell.

JFC!!!  HE should be on the FBI list and in jail. I wonder how many guns he has at home...

[WOT?*]

He was seizing and had blood coming out of his ears. This is fucked up at so many levels it's inconceivable.
He suffered not only a temporal lobe fracture but TBI and a brain bleed
.
One of my grands' friends (my "daughter by another mother") has a seizure disorder, as does my ex. I'm going to use friend as a frame of reference for a moment since they're of an age and she had a similar injury. She fell and hit her head on pavement during a seizure when she was this boy's age. She was bleeding from her ear. Two weeks later she had a stroke as a result of that particular incident. She lost the use of her entire left side for a time, and it was awful for her to deal with. Bullying and pity and looks from schoolmates because of it made things far worse.
My ex started having seizures at 25 due to head trauma. He still has them. He has no short-term memory and other issues due to TBI, getting worse as he ages. He literally has to write *everything* down or tell his wife, or he won't remember what he's supposed to do or where he's supposed to be or the conversation he had moments before. He's only 55 and has been unable to work for years. Decades, actually.

This isn't a kid having seizures he's grown into and will grow out of as he progresses through puberty. This is a kid who's sustained serious head trauma and a TBI as a result. While they don't know the permanent effects, they will be lifelong. This CHILD will never be the same.

This isn't merely horrific. This is tragic for the boy in that it will affect him forever and will do so in unimaginable ways. I just can't get over the senselessness and this SOB's blasé lack of care or concern. I'm at "I hope he rots" right now.

[mrsukyankee]

How do people send their anger & displeasure to the law board or whomever would be in charge of this asshole who made this decision to let him walk?

[morecoffeeplease]

I was going to post that he was released. This is so fucked up.

[bowies]

I remember reading about a Montana judge who let a convicted rapist walk with no jail time. The whole “good family” justification (read: white UMC male).

[ECB]

Aug 6, 2019 20:18:18 GMT -5 livinitup said:

So, in this guy’s world view, 1st Amendment Rights do not extend to NOT genuflecting to our anthem.

Makes sense.

Because beating a child until his ears bleed is an America value??

Sure, asshole.

People have totally warped what "being patriotic" is about and what our flag represents.  

And the total ignoring of the 1st Amendment is what I don't understand.  People are SO firmly entrenched in their 2A rights, but oh, the 1A?  That pesky thing?  Eh.... who needs it? 

[isabel]

Aug 7, 2019 1:50:27 GMT -5 mrsukyankee said:

Aug 7, 2019 0:08:12 GMT -5 WOT?* said:

RELEASED ON HIS OWN RECOGNIZANCE?
They were seeking $100K bail, which I think was too freaking low for the incident and his history, but the judge RELEASED HIM ROR??? Get that white-male-privilege judge out of there.

And in the gun assault, he was sentenced to ten years probation, ALL OF WHICH WERE SUSPENDED. He just walked up to a car, brandished a gun and threatened to kill them. WHAT THE FUCK?

I have no words for the rage this has incited as you can tell.

JFC!!!  HE should be on the FBI list and in jail. I wonder how many guns he has at home...

So this is really fucking timely because I was going to use her as an example...

Cyntoia Brown was released from prison today. The likelihood she ever kills anyone again is so fucking slim, you can barely see it. She is about as low risk to reoffend as can possibly be.

www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/us/cyntoia-brown-release.html

THIS fucking piece of shit, on the other hand, terrifies me. Never should he be trusted to have a weapon. He shouldn't be on the streets in general because he clearly has a temper and no ability to control it. He's far more of a threat to public safety than Brown, yet he's walking the streets ROR with no probation from a prior incident while she has spent the last decade plus in prison.

[lolo]

Aug 7, 2019 7:48:04 GMT -5 ECB said:

Aug 6, 2019 20:18:18 GMT -5 livinitup said:

So, in this guy’s world view, 1st Amendment Rights do not extend to NOT genuflecting to our anthem.

Makes sense.

Because beating a child until his ears bleed is an America value??

Sure, asshole.

People have totally warped what "being patriotic" is about and what our flag represents.  

Yes, it's the horrifying "conflation" of patriotism and nationalism. Or, really, the shift from patriotism to nationalism.

[cattledogkisses]

He should have been charged with attempted murder. He could have killed this child.

[pugz]

I agree he should have been charged with attempted murder. I cannot believe that he was released.

[cattledogkisses]

Aug 7, 2019 10:20:07 GMT -5 isabel said:

Aug 7, 2019 1:50:27 GMT -5 mrsukyankee said:

JFC!!!  HE should be on the FBI list and in jail. I wonder how many guns he has at home...

So this is really fucking timely because I was going to use her as an example...

Cyntoia Brown was released from prison today. The likelihood she ever kills anyone again is so fucking slim, you can barely see it. She is about as low risk to reoffend as can possibly be.

www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/us/cyntoia-brown-release.html

THIS fucking piece of shit, on the other hand, terrifies me. Never should he be trusted to have a weapon. He shouldn't be on the streets in general because he clearly has a temper and no ability to control it. He's far more of a threat to public safety than Brown, yet he's walking the streets ROR with no probation from a prior incident while she has spent the last decade plus in prison.

I also thought of the woman who was charged with manslaughter after someone else shot her and her fetus died.  This guy doesn't even get an attempted murder charge for something that easily could have killed this CHILD, and he's out on bail.

If this isn't a perfect example of white male privilege, I don't know what is.

[akayf]

missoulian.com/news/local/attorney-cites-trump-s-rhetoric-in-boy-s-assault/article_4842efed-7f34-5855-81fb-92ad2dc0c64f.html

His defense is the president made me do it.

[mrsukyankee]

Aug 8, 2019 0:33:53 GMT -5 akayf said:

missoulian.com/news/local/attorney-cites-trump-s-rhetoric-in-boy-s-assault/article_4842efed-7f34-5855-81fb-92ad2dc0c64f.html

His defense is the president made me do it.

Of course. And dude - NOT A FUCKING GET OUT OF JAIL CARD IN THE NORMAL WORLD (which clearly we are not in).

[ChillyMcFreeze]

The most profound comment on a FB article about this: "These are the red flags you wondered about."

[msmerymac]

I was going to say that the law may have something else to say about this:
“He said (the boy) was disrespecting the national anthem so he had every right to do that,” she added.

But nah. Seems he'll get off.

[msmerymac]

Aug 8, 2019 0:33:53 GMT -5 akayf said:

missoulian.com/news/local/attorney-cites-trump-s-rhetoric-in-boy-s-assault/article_4842efed-7f34-5855-81fb-92ad2dc0c64f.html

His defense is the president made me do it.

"His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished," Jasper said. "He certainly didn't understand it was a crime."

First, I'm sure this dickwad isn't military, so Trump is not his commander-in-chief. Second, everyone knows assault is a crime. Third, ignorance of the law does not absolve you from culpability.