Ugh. I liked her and her gorgeous family. I didn’t know about the Courtney Stoddard stuff because I wasn’t on Twitter until recently and, just like with Monica Lewinsky, it was somehow ok to shit on them, so the news of how CT was acting didn’t make the mainstream news.
I know CT is on a redemption tour, but I’m not sure I can get over a grown ass woman telling a teenager (an abused on at that) to kill herself. It’s so cruel and gross.
I think the Courtney Stodden messages were horrible. Did you happen to see that in the thread? I never really felt one way or the other about her but now? Buh-bye.
I think she did and said a lot of shit. I like to believe her apology was heartfelt, but it doesn’t erase the bad stuff. It does seem like she’s grown/matured quite a bit since then and legit realizes that she was wrong.
I think I’m more bothered by the fact that it’s still a story. The fixation on celebrity behavior is a self-feeding cycle. I know she’s more “exposed” by virtue of her life choices, and I’m glad she’s taking the steps she’s “supposed” to while in the spotlight, but damn it feels very groundhog’s day.
Acted liked a Twitter troll. Told a model and a fashion designer to go Kill themselves or that they deserved to die (on different occasions) and decimated the fashion designer’s business.
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I think she did and said a lot of shit. I like to believe her apology was heartfelt, but it doesn’t erase the bad stuff. It does seem like she’s grown/matured quite a bit since then and legit realizes that she was wrong.
I think I’m more bothered by the fact that it’s still a story. The fixation on celebrity behavior is a self-feeding cycle. I know she’s more “exposed” by virtue of her life choices, and I’m glad she’s taking the steps she’s “supposed” to while in the spotlight, but damn it feels very groundhog’s day.
Did you read about what she did to the fashion designer guy? That woman has done a lot of damage to who knows how many people. With stuff like this, people finally feel safe to come out and say how they were victimized once the first story hits.
ETA: I don’t know any of these people TBH but I generally take apologies as the trite ML “I’m listening and learning” of yesteryear.
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Post by sproctopus on Jun 15, 2021 17:59:34 GMT -5
I felt really connected to her when she lost her son last year. She also had her son just after I had mine, so I felt a weird connection to her that way. I do enjoy her recipes and did like her content on IG. I
I haven't read those blind items, but the Twitter stuff and bullying was really gross. Although, I had the same opinion of Courtney Stodden and now, years later, I realize that opinion was rooted in some internal misogyny and a gross misunderstanding of what child abuse can look like. I can't imagine telling someone to kill themselves-- that's inexcusable. I see there are other accusers saying she locked them out of the industry, but I haven't read any details. I
I think she has a drinking problem. She did get sober at some point in 2019, but I don't think she still is. I definitely see the mean girl thing.
Post by shopgirl07 on Jun 15, 2021 18:00:06 GMT -5
I’ve never been a fan. To me, she’s the equivalent of a Kardashian. Her life is totally just performative for the gram or Twitter. I just really can’t get past repeatedly telling people to kill themselves. Obviously, she’s a wounded and insecure person, but that’s really unforgivable.
The best thing she could do is get off social media and live a more authentic life, but I sense it will be just the opposite. I see some sort of reality redemption show coming. I’m just so over these vapid, vacuous people.
I felt really connected to her when she lost her son last year. She also had her son just after I had mine, so I felt a weird connection to her that way. I do enjoy her recipes and did like her content on IG. I
I haven't read those blind items, but the Twitter stuff and bullying was really gross. Although, I had the same opinion of Courtney Stodden and now, years later, I realize that opinion was rooted in some internal misogyny and a gross misunderstanding of what child abuse can look like. I can't imagine telling someone to kill themselves-- that's inexcusable. I see there are other accusers saying she locked them out of the industry, but I haven't read any details. I
I think she has a drinking problem. She did get sober at some point in 2019, but I don't think she still is. I definitely see the mean girl thing.
I think the sobriety was more recent. Did anyone see when she hosted one of the NYE things on TV a few years ago? I saw pieces and she was a mess!!
I remember her posting about reading "Quit Like A Woman" and I thought it was before she got pregnant last year, but maybe I'm remembering wrong.
Oh no, someone *just* recommended her cookbooks to me. Should I rethink purchasing them? I literally know nothing about her but I’m told her cookbooks are good!
I think she did and said a lot of shit. I like to believe her apology was heartfelt, but it doesn’t erase the bad stuff. It does seem like she’s grown/matured quite a bit since then and legit realizes that she was wrong.
I think I’m more bothered by the fact that it’s still a story. The fixation on celebrity behavior is a self-feeding cycle. I know she’s more “exposed” by virtue of her life choices, and I’m glad she’s taking the steps she’s “supposed” to while in the spotlight, but damn it feels very groundhog’s day.
I don’t think it’s all that old, though. It’s come up again b/c she posted the big apology.
I think it came up bc stodden talked about the treatment she received in an interview “ She wouldn’t just publicly tweet about wanting me to take ‘a dirt nap’ but would privately DM me and tell me to kill myself,” said Stodden. “Things like, ‘I can’t wait for you to die.’”
I need ham like water Like breath, like rain I need ham like mercy From Heaven's gate Sometimes ham salad or casserole or ham that’s free range, all natural I need ham
Oh no, someone *just* recommended her cookbooks to me. Should I rethink purchasing them? I literally know nothing about her but I’m told her cookbooks are good!
I like her cookbooks. They aren't totally groundbreaking, but I do like them.
I think she is a human who made really awful, inexcusable mistakes and lives in the public eye and has to pay for those more than a normal person with skeletons does.
I don't think, with the information we have now, that I would boycott her books/cookware.
Post by morecoffeeplease on Jun 15, 2021 18:11:19 GMT -5
The whole Courtney stodden thing is awful. Chrissys comments and just how society treated a young girl who was marrying a creep old AF guy. It’s so shameful looking back on it.
Oh no, someone *just* recommended her cookbooks to me. Should I rethink purchasing them? I literally know nothing about her but I’m told her cookbooks are good!
Yeah, I wouldn’t buy anything of hers. There’s plenty of great cookbooks out there whose authors haven’t told children to kill themselves. I mean, it’s pretty cut and dry.
I think she did and said a lot of shit. I like to believe her apology was heartfelt, but it doesn’t erase the bad stuff. It does seem like she’s grown/matured quite a bit since then and legit realizes that she was wrong.
I think I’m more bothered by the fact that it’s still a story. The fixation on celebrity behavior is a self-feeding cycle. I know she’s more “exposed” by virtue of her life choices, and I’m glad she’s taking the steps she’s “supposed” to while in the spotlight, but damn it feels very groundhog’s day.
I don’t think it’s all that old, though. It’s come up again b/c she posted the big apology.
I’m just saying that I learned a lot over the years and who I was in my 20’s isn’t who I was in my 30’s, and I’ll probably change again in my 40’s.
FTR I’m not a huge fan and don’t really care if she stays or goes. But in the month between the big news and the apology there have been plenty of “what happened” and “what’s going to happen” stories. Most of which seem to show up when an outlet is trying to fill their news cycle.
She has always annoyed me and I think it’s because I had heard rumors of her mean girl behaviors before she got famous famous.
And she became so visible on social media in part because of the digs she would dish out and post on Twitter or IG- to Trump for example.
She is also very good friends with the Kardashians. If you judge someone by the company they keep…
I believe people can change and grow and be genuinely remorseful. I don’t actually care if she changes is remorseful, I feel for the people she channeled Perez Hilton of the old days in harassing.
I am absolutely not defending her, but I remember (I think) this place and the before place not being so nice around that time. Man the internet was, and still is, mean.
I have a lot (probably too much?) of sympathy for people who’ve lost children and/or struggle with drinking. It’s certainly not an excuse, though.
Basically everything sproctopus said. I also had my loss within days of hers (iirc) and didn’t realize until she posted around her DD that we were due around the same time. I also was unaware previously of their fertility struggles, and can empathize a lot especially mixed with out of control drinking.
“Lindsay adds a few more slits to her wrists when she sees emma stone.” Teigen was making light of the actress’ admission that she’d cut herself in the past.
I am absolutely not defending her, but I remember (I think) this place and the before place not being so nice around that time. Man the internet was, and still is, mean.
For sure, we’ve had some horrible stuff happen here, but this was a mid 20s to late 20s adult targeting teens, telling one to kill herself, and other things.
And not just tweeting, but she was sending DMs to these people. That to me is a whole other level. That designer she bullied says Chrissy would find out he got a job and she'd go talk to the people and he'd get fired. He says she torpedoed his career over something he allegedly said/tweeted that was later proven he did not do. If that is all true that is way more than a mean girl.
Oh no, someone *just* recommended her cookbooks to me. Should I rethink purchasing them? I literally know nothing about her but I’m told her cookbooks are good!
I wouldn’t want to give her money but they are all ghostwritten and/or lifted from other books and bloggers. She isn’t a recipe developer/chef or anything. There are plenty of good cookbooks out there that she isn’t involved with.
Post by icedcoffee on Jun 15, 2021 19:05:18 GMT -5
I felt very connected to her with her infertility and loss and I thought her emotional support casserole comment was hilarious. I still laugh about that. LOL
CT is a mean girl. Fact is she did not have an apology until people went after her like 5 years later. She went after a 16 year old and told her to take a dirt nap, nope, it's not a sincere or heartfelt apology, she didn't even bother with her insight until it starting affect her wallet. Denied.
The whole Courtney stodden thing is awful. Chrissys comments and just how society treated a young girl who was marrying a creep old AF guy. It’s so shameful looking back on it.
Yes. When the whole Chrissy thing came out, Courtney also described some of the other crap celebrities were saying about them. Everyone was really hard on them. It was obvious they were in a bad place, 16 year olds don't marry 54 year old men if they have a great home life and it seemed like they took the brunt of the public's ire. I can't name the creep but I know Courtney's name which means I have heard it more often.
I believe people can get better, but anyone who would say those kind of things is truly a mean person, and an apology only came when her bottom line was affected. I would like to see some action behind the apology, like a gigantic donation to anti-bullying and suicide prevention organizations, volunteering for said organizations, etc.
Like someone said upthread, I really doubt she cared at all about it until it impacted her income/popularity. To me, she's always been fake AF.
Her post about a $13k bottle of wine while dining out during the pandemic really topped it off for me. It was as unbelievably tone deaf as it can get (kind of like Kim K's island birthday party).
Post by maudefindlay on Jun 15, 2021 19:58:53 GMT -5
This feels similar to the whole Rachel Hollis thing. happened. Is how it will go. Radio silence....listening and learning time....apology....then attempts to test the waters and return to social media like nothing happened.