I didn't know what to title this, but I have two random questions more related to physiology than behavior...
1. DS1 is 7y 5m and hasn't lost a tooth yet. Is this weird? I google and the age range seems more like 5-6 for first lost tooth, but then some sites say later. It's just getting like weirdly obvious especially with the neighborhood kids and other buddies who are younger than him and have like full front adult teeth in. He's a bigger kid, so it's kinda looking odd that he's just got teeny teeth. Nothing is wiggly even a little. Adult teeth are there on x-rays though. Earlier this year, he did have to have two lower teeth pulled because his adult teeth came in behind them fully and the baby teeth weren't budging... Well, it was kind of like 2.5 teeth pulled because one of them was a fused tooth, so 3 adult teeth grew in their place. And the shark tooth thing is happening on the bottom again. His next dentist appt is in November, I think. I just don't want this poor kid to have to have like every baby tooth pulled.
2. DS2 (4y) drinks what seems like a normal amount of fluids during the day. Milk, water, sparking water, sometimes sugar free Gatorade or a juice box. But he probably pees 2x/day. Maybe 3. He never wants to go right when he wakes up. Most days he's up at 6 and he doesn't go to the bathroom before he goes to daycare at 7:15-7:30. His teacher and daycare director just called me about a bunch of behavior stuff (sigh... whole other mess of issues there) but also mentioned that they can't get him to go pee during the day. But he's kind of the same at home on the weekends. We're in the middle of ASD testing, there are sensory issues at play, etc... but it mostly just seems like he doesn't have to go. I can't think of the last time he had an accident... it's been months. He doesn't go overnight either. Like... just a large bladder capacity or is this something to ask the doc about?
1. It does seem unusual, and I would ask the dentist. I’m surprise the dentist hasn’t commented yet. We have had some baby teeth that word falling out in time and did have to have them pulled, too. But not, like, all of them!
2. Nothing really to offer here except that my daughter seemed kind of like that at around the same age. I remember being mildly concerned and curious about why she never seemed to have to go to the bathroom. She’s seven now. It seems like things are normal now, but I’m also much less aware of how often she’s going to the bathroom then I was when she was four.
1) I wouldn’t find this too unusual, depending on what the X-ray showed me. He may be on the end of the bell curve of losing his baby teeth later than most and it’s usually boys on that side of the bell curve. These are also the boys who are still in braces with me in 10th and 11th grade because they took forever to lose their baby teeth.
2) I don’t know anything about this one medically. Personally I had to train myself to go pee throughout the day as an adult because as a kid I never wanted to pee at school or anywhere besides home. For me it was a “most bathrooms are icky except for home” issue. I still have this hang up and really try to time my bathroom breaks with places where I’m reasonably certain the bathrooms will be clean.
DS2 didn't lose his first tooth until almost a month after he was 7. I think the only reason he lost one was because the adult tooth was already pushing through. However, he lost like 4 teeth within that first month. My neighbor is almost 7.5 and she just lost her first tooth a few weeks ago. Whereas, DS1 lost his first tooth at 5 and now has no baby teeth left and he just turned 10. I wouldn't worry too much but maybe get the dentist's advice.
Post by plutosmoon on Aug 11, 2022 14:42:15 GMT -5
DD has lost 8 baby teeth so far, every one as a shark tooth, not one has even so much as wiggled before the adult tooth was fully in. The bottom middle two are usually the first to fall out around that 5-6 range, the top two are usually later, and the shark teeth seemed to delay it further. I was almost 7 when I lost my first bottom tooth, so there is a range, especially if his baby teeth grew in later, I remember having no front teeth in 3rd grade so I was around 8 when I lost the top 2. I think DD was 6.5 when we got her first bottom tooth out. She was around 7.5 when she lost her top two front teeth, the adult teeth never loosened the roots, we didn't have a pulling option since the dentist was closed for the pandemic. It was really awful looking. We just kept tugging on it and it eventually came out. Dentist was mostly unconcerned about the other shark teeth.
I have nothing on the bathroom situation DD never seems to have to go in the morning. She holds it a long time, she has been like this forever, doesn't seem to have any related issues, and probably goes 2xs a day as well, no accidents she also has ASD. Could be related. No one seemed concerned unless she was having utis, which she isn't.
1. My youngest gets shark teeth and the baby tooth isn’t loose until the adult tooth is in. He lost his starting at 6.5 but there was a large gap after the first two. His buddy didn’t loss their first tooth until 7.
2. My oldest was a camel and never peed at school/daycare unless he was constipated (and then he did all the time). Daycare thought he was potty trained a year before he was because of this. He just did not care for their bathroom.
Post by ellipses84 on Aug 11, 2022 15:16:56 GMT -5
DS2 is 6.5 and hasn’t lost any teeth. I asked at his appt in May and the dentist said that’s in the normal range and not unusual in that me and DS1 lost teeth late. DS1 is 11.5 and still needs to lose baby teeth (he’s overdue for stage 1 braces because the adult teeth he does have, have ALL the issues, but he can get phase 2 until all his baby teeth fall out and the dentist couldn’t give me a timeline for that).
DS1 has always had great bladder control so he can hold a lot of liquid for a long time. He drinks a ton of water and seems to pee much less than everyone else in the family, especially if it’s hot. I think your body adjusts to water consumption, like if you double your water intake you’ll pee all the time but get used to it in a couple weeks. He would also never poop at daycare or school. DS2 has terrible bladder control and pees a lot more often.
DD2 was over 8 when she finally lost a tooth. I was concerned because several people in DH family were missing certain adult teeth (like, born without them). But the dentist told me not to worry, and that it wasn’t a bad thing that she was late losing teeth. And once the first one came out, she lost 3 more very quickly.
Post by AdaraMarie on Aug 11, 2022 15:59:47 GMT -5
1. My kids lost their teeth early, so nothing to add. 2. I have seen a couple adults with asd on YouTube say that not feeling their body's signals to go to the bathroom was one of their symptoms. One of them is paige layle if you want to check her out. I can't remember who the other is but if I remember right they both set alarms and have routines so the go on a regular basis (as adults) because their brain isn't getting the signal.
1. I think I lost my teeth late, too. Like 2nd grade or later (which would have been age 8). I wouldn't be worried. 2. I dunno, the variance on kids is pretty high, fear of using the bathroom outside the home is fairly common.
1. None of my kids have lost their first tooth until they were over 7.5. DS3 is almost 7.5 and also hasn’t lost a tooth yet, so he seems to be following the same path. All of them have relatively “late” oral development, with my nearly 13 yo still having 4 teeth left to loose (although they will be pulled if they’re not out in the next 2 months due to braces).
2. DS3 also doesn’t pee very often. I would say at most he goes 3x per day, and often doesn’t need to go after sleeping for 10 hrs. He drinks probably the most of all my kids, so who knows. He doesn’t have anything developmentally that would keep him from going, I think he just has a big bladder. If he were getting UTI’s, I would be concerned.
For the second question, that is how one of my kids is. He didn't use the bathroom at school the first two weeks and we made him try it so he could figure it where it was and hopefully be comfortable with using it. But, he is the same way at home and only pees twice a day usually. He's been like this for like 5 years and no health issues have arisen.
Post by rootbeerfloat on Aug 11, 2022 20:25:32 GMT -5
DS didn't lose a tooth until he was 8. He's 15 and only finished losing them in the past year. So slow! He is missing a couple of adult teeth, and we're keeping an eye on those, but no other issues (no cavities or braces needed).
Post by undecidedowl on Aug 11, 2022 20:54:13 GMT -5
I lost my teeth super late as a kid. DS1 is following the same path. He didn't lose any until mid second grade, so almost 8 yo. I look at it as less years to worry about him knocking out adult teeth lol. At 10.5 yo, he's only lost 8 teeth and none are loose.
My kids drink about the same amount of water as each other. One pees often and the other hardly at all. No issues that we know of.
DD didn’t lose any teeth until she was over 8 years old. I think she was 8 years, 3 months when she lost her first one. She just turned 9 last month and has only lost 3 teeth so far. Her dentist said the average age for kids losing their first tooth can be from 4-10 years old!
Kind of posted and ghosted yesterday. Sorry about that! Thanks for the replies... seems like both of these are within a 'normal' range.
Now I get to go back to worrying about the other fun stuff, like the 7 year old waking 3x/night with near panic-attack level of freaking out about zombies. And the call I got from daycare yesterday asking me to talk to the 4yo about not touching or closing his classmates eyes, which is seemingly a new fascination he's developed.
Post by ilikedonuts on Aug 14, 2022 11:42:42 GMT -5
My oldest lost her first tooth a few days before she turned 7. I feel like my kids have always been late on the tooth front. My youngest didn’t get her first tooth until she was 16 or 17 months old.
Post by minniemouse on Aug 14, 2022 12:52:59 GMT -5
I lost my teeth super late; I was the last kid in my class to lose a tooth. It happened it the beginning of 4th grade right before my 9th birthday (October bday, so I was still 8 when starting 4th). This meant having braces all through high school, since it took forever to lose all the baby teeth. My kids are both late to lose teeth too. My 12 year old still has a bunch to lose, and both the dentist and orthodontist told her "'dentally you are 9-10 years old". She was NOT impressed by that. LOL.