If it’s a position at your current company, yes that is typically protocol. It’s a little different since you are a contracted employee, but I would still give a heads up to your manager.
In a functional, well run company, a manager should want to see high performers promoted and retained even if that means in a different division of the company. And a very good manager would use their internal resources and leverage to help make that happen.
Some companies are dysfunctional. Some managers are petty, backstabbing assholes.
Post by SusanBAnthony on Jul 13, 2023 18:08:48 GMT -5
For an internal applicants at my company, the first thing a hiring manager does is call the current manager and ask about the candidate. And you don't want that phone call to be the first your manager has heard that you are applying.
But it's company specific. I'd ask a mentor within your company.
Post by RoxMonster on Jul 13, 2023 18:17:00 GMT -5
Also, I probably should have put this in the OP but forgot: when we have our 1:1s, she has asked me my career goals and how to help me achieve them. She knows my short-term goal is to become an internal, full-time employee at this company. She even told me that while she doesn't want to lose me, she wants to help me grow my career, so if she noticed an internal position come open that she thought would interest me, she'd pass it along to me.
Thanks for all your input so far. I am leaning towards telling her.
Post by nancybotwin on Jul 13, 2023 18:51:35 GMT -5
From the information you shared, it seems like you should tell her. She sounds supportive and the kind of person who will prioritize your growth over her own insecurities or desires.
Post by goldengirlz on Jul 13, 2023 19:13:37 GMT -5
I’ve had contractors on my team and it’s always sad when their contracts end and there’s no headcount to keep them. It feels crappy as a manager.
I’d be thrilled to help someone transition to a full-time role so I didn’t have to have the “we’re so sorry” conversation. It sounds like your manager feels the same way. So I’d tell her.
Also, I probably should have put this in the OP but forgot: when we have our 1:1s, she has asked me my career goals and how to help me achieve them. She knows my short-term goal is to become an internal, full-time employee at this company. She even told me that while she doesn't want to lose me, she wants to help me grow my career, so if she noticed an internal position come open that she thought would interest me, she'd pass it along to me.
Thanks for all your input so far. I am leaning towards telling her.
Yes, I would tell her! She may even be able to talk to the hiring manager (if she knows them) and put in a recommendation for you, even before they see your application.
I don't think it's a hard and fast rule everywhere that you have to tell your manager you are applying - I actually don't love that idea for a number of reasons. But in this case it sounds like she knows you want to work permanently, she can't give you a spot on her team, and she probably would rather you stick with the company than leave the org entirely to find permanent employment elsewhere. I bet she'd be supportive!
Post by steamboat185 on Jul 13, 2023 19:39:17 GMT -5
The policy at my company is that you have to tell when you get an interview request, which I like for any stretch applications that don’t go anywhere. In your case I would let her know now.
DH works for a fairly large company that had no policy and he has one employee tell them 3 days before she was supposed to start her new roll- during quarter end. It burned both her old and new department causing a lot of bad blood.
I told my immediate supervisor I was planning on applying for the job. I later found out he immediately told his boss (our team's overall boss - the one I was referring to in the post) and was like "We need to do something. We can't lose her! What can we tell her?"
I got a message from her and meeting request within minutes to chat. She got permission from her boss to tell me she had put in a request for an internal position for me in May and it was just going super slowly. They were waiting to get approvals from someone higher up for a larger plan they are putting in place and one small part of that is this position. Fast forward to today and I was told they are posting the position this Friday (they still have to post it and formally interview me). I'm so excited!! I did not end up applying to the other position because I really want to stay on this team and now have a path to do so.
Thanks for all the advice you offered. I wanted to follow up with the good news.
Post by RoxMonster on Aug 18, 2023 20:17:59 GMT -5
I was offered the job today! 40% raise, great PTO and benefits. I’m now making twice as much as I made teaching and I never dreamed I’d be able to be in this position. Best decision I ever made 😊