FTR, I stayed out of that bullshit, beyond liking what someone else said about it being bullshit (paraphrase).
Mostly because I think it's ri-damn-diculous to pretend that any of us is above saying something mean or snarky on occasion and to damn someone else for doing what we've all done a time or two (or more) on the nest is completely hypocritical.
I hope you stay here, Lucy. I don't know that I agree with you all that often - minus Catholic things and a love of Anthropologie - but I like you. You're funny and I think you add a good viewpoint to this board, even if, like I said, I don't agree. If you don't stay, I may have to stalk you on ML, so BE WARNED!
Post by meshaliuknits on Oct 3, 2012 14:55:23 GMT -5
I have no idea WTF is going on.
I like lucy, I like 2V, I like aw. I genuinely like everyone on this board. I don't always agree with everyone, but I would have a beer with any of you, any time.
Well, clearly it's not that "private" of a facebook page if members are tattling on what people are talking about TO the people they are talking about.
That said, I don't have an opinion on this at all except that I think LHC is acerbic and witty and I appreciate that she has the balls to say what she thinks.
Post by cookiemdough on Oct 3, 2012 14:57:53 GMT -5
Reason #47853688494 I don't mix Facebook and the nest/gbcn. I hope you continue to post LHC. I have to say it is disappointing how many people we have lost over the last few months.
Reason #47853688494 I don't mix Facebook and the nest/gbcn. I hope you continue to post LHC. I have to say it is disappointing how many people we have lost over the last few months.
I like lucy, I like 2V, I like aw. I genuinely like everyone on this board. I don't always agree with everyone, but I would have a beer with any of you, any time.
The shittalking that goes on there can get a little self-rightous (though honestly it's not that frequent) but the FB page would go down in firey flames if it was made public. People use it as a more private place to air things they'd rather not have accessible to the internet at large. I love that use of it and I'd hate to see that die.
A bunch of CEPers have a private facebook page, where apparently they talk shit about everyone on the board. Today it was my turn to be a target, and I got a flood of fucking PMs from people telling me what was said.
It's really only private in the sense that you have to be invited and it's an "invisible" group. Invites were handed out pretty liberally when it was created.
More often the not it's used for vents about family members, health, or work that people woudl prefer not to share in a google-accessible space. Or discussions about the board in general.
I think you're totally justified in being pissed off here LHC, but let's not make the FB page out to be something it's not.
I only talk shit about you people with my real life friends.
And my husband! I'm like, "you would not believe what this crazy ass hag said on the politics board." And he's all ^o) at me telling him that.
Seriously, though, NO ONE is better than anyone around here. No one. We all have our days where we say things and let the internet get the best of us. I think it's bullshit to hold anything that was said years ago against LHC. This is not an emmy situation, at all, here, where the level of vitriol is excessive or majorly different from what goes on here on a daily basis. Lucy's snark or shitty comments are no worse than other things that have been said on the board, and we're fooling ourselves if we think any of us are innocent of it.
The shittalking that goes on there can get a little self-rightous (though honestly it's not that frequent) but the FB page would go down in firey flames if it was made public. People use it as a more private place to air things they'd rather not have accessible to the internet at large. I love that use of it and I'd hate to see that die.
Exactly. Before all this, I don't recall the last time there was shit-talking about someone else there. Sure, it has happened but it's not why it exists.
Having said that, pardon my cynicism but I would bet anything almost any board on GBCN with a ton of regulars has some similar kind of setup and has done some shit-talking about others as well. I wouldn't expect CEP to be any nicer or meaner in that respect. We may be the AP of GBCN but AP classes are still full of high school kids.
Post by heightsyankee on Oct 3, 2012 15:12:39 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't even fathom a FB page where people discuss things that happen on a message board. I hear you that it's not always about that but if it's something I can't say here, I either don't talk about it publicly or email a couple friends and hash it out. This is like too much internets. ::puts on Luddite hat::
Honestly, I can't even fathom a FB page where people discuss things that happen on a message board. I hear you that it's not always about that but if it's something I can't say here, I either don't talk about it publicly or email a couple friends and hash it out. This is like too much internets. ::puts on Luddite hat::
But we don't. And it's open to anyone who's friends with a CEP-er on FB and wants in.
I'll cop to posting a few things recently related to my workplace. No way was I posting it here because of the Googles. But the people I'm friends with on FB know or can figure out where I work since it's on my page so it was safe for me to post it there.
I don't know WHAT it is, except that I got a flurry of PMs detailing truly horrible things people were saying about me. Fuck your FB page, whatever it is, because whatever else it is, it's fucking mean.
Like I said...I totally understand why you're upset here. It'd throw me for a huge loop to get a PM like that. I'm sorry your feelings were hurt.
Honestly, I can't even fathom a FB page where people discuss things that happen on a message board. I hear you that it's not always about that but if it's something I can't say here, I either don't talk about it publicly or email a couple friends and hash it out. This is like too much internets. ::puts on Luddite hat::
It's the internet within the internet. Matrix style.
Yeah. I apologized for that. Repeatedly. As I stated above. And no, I never claimed to be better than mominatrix. Clearly it was shitty of me, and I admitted that. As for why it's all of a sudden being brought up on some kind of private facebook page where people sit around and talk shit about everyone else, I have no idea.
But I do know that talking shit about someone behind their back sucks hard, and if your aim was to get me back or whatever, mission accomplished. It fucking hurts to have people talk behind your back, and even worse when it gets emailed to you, and you realize that people you've previously liked and respected are calling you horrible names and you had no idea.
Yeah. No one EVER talks about me behind my back.
My aim wasn't to "get back at you." If I wanted to get back at you, I would, I don't know... comment, initiate, and s/o 13 different threads about your marriage and I would C&P that stuff so I could throw it up after you said you were going to DD it because of how personal it was, or maybe I would make it a personal mission to run you off of a particular board, or maybe I would like start a spin off on a whole other board talking about how much I fucking hate you, or maybe I would just follow you around for a couple of days finding something shitty to say about every mundane post you made...
Between you, HAB, and amynumbers I have dealt with each of the above over the years. The difference is, I never used that shit to justify being mean to someone who has never. fucking. participated. in that shit.
If you're hurt that I remembered something really mean that you did to someone I consider a friend, and that that colors the way I see you, there's not much I can do about that. As I said on FB, there are times I really like you, but I cannot get past crazy cruelty to someone who has not only been ridiculously nice to me, but who, to my observation has never been anything but ridiculously nice to EVERYONE.
So, in short, what you would like me, the reader to take from this particular little tirade is:
"Na na na boo boo, fuck off LHC, you deserved to be shittalked, and I'm glad you know about it because you were mean to someone a million years ago?"
Mountain out of a molehill. Seriously, the stuff that was said was exactly what was said here earlier. Also, I'm side-eyeing the person who did the tattling without screenshots so that you knew exactly what was said. If they're going to do it, might as well do it properly.
Also, the FB page isn't this big secret place where people talk shit about other people. It was used to talk about things people didn't want to be made public to other boards (cough*ml*cough), or people didn't feel comfortable enough posting out on the wide internet.
But yes, let's keep blowing up the rhetoric and making it seem seedier than it really is.