Blahh. Just bitching.

[TrickyBob]

I feel nauseous pretty much all day, every day.

It used to be when I just wouldn't eat enough/too far between eating or if I didn't get much sleep. But I've been eating good and I've been sleeping from like 9 or 10pm to 7 or 8am. But I don't want to do anything during the day because I constantly feel sick. I'd lay back down but I don't want to fall asleep because it ruins me sleeping during the night then.

Nothing hurts, I'm not sick with a cold or flu or anything.

To rule it out, I've taken a pregnancy test (or two) last week and early this week. All negative.

I'm just frustrated and bitching. Feel free to ignore.

Also, I'm pretty pissed that I made a whole chicken the other day and due to my weird ass feelings towards meat, I couldn't eat the damn chicken after I took all the meat off. I thought today I'd make a chicken salad sandwich because I loveeee them but I took a few bites and started over thinking the texture and that was it, no more sandwich for me.

I hate having this complex about meat, it sucks. That chicken looked really good too. :-(

[anlo]

I had constant nausea for a few months earlier this year. Doctors did every test in the book, including 3 blood panels and 4! pregnancy tests, despite me being on the pill and H's vasectomy. Have you tried taking an rx proton pump inhibitor (I take Nexium and it is miraculous). I hope you feel better soon, it sucks soooo bad. I'd rather be in pain than feel sick to my stomach!

[Jalapeñomel]

Have you had your gall bladder checked?

[TrickyBob]

Oct 10, 2012 12:14:02 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Have you had your gall bladder checked?

I haven't.

I know I want to get it checked because I've been dealing with, for quite some time, a lot of stuff that mirrors gall bladder problems. I didn't know nausea dealt with it to?

[TrickyBob]

Oct 10, 2012 12:16:20 GMT -5 Que? said:

That sucks.

Do you want to talk about the stalker blog some more as a distraction? I'm not die talking about it, and we could bury it in here so we don't look like speculating dicks.

Would love to. It's been running through my mind a lot because sometimes I like to pretend I'm Sherlock Holms and can solve this shit. haha. But for real, I have so many theories and questions about that blog.

[TrickyBob]

Oct 10, 2012 12:27:10 GMT -5 Que? said:

See, I think this is the good part of us discussing this. I think their awareness campaign is working in the sense that wears talking about what we would do differently. She said repeatedly that they didn't understand how serious it was,and that they thought it would go away.

I've been curious about the ID thing. Why would you show ID to buy nail polish? It makes no sense, unless you still have to show ID to use a credit card?

People huff nail polish. I've been to a store or two that has made me show my ID in order to buy nail polish and nail polish remover. As well as white out.

But, if Keenan lived two? doors up, wouldn't he already know where she lived?

I'm still questioning why no one has come out and said "look lady, clear our names!" but from how it reads, it seems as though Brook and Keenan never came forth to clear their names.

[sunflower22]

Can I play too? Lol. I think keenan and Brooke are letting her run her mouth bc they are guilty of the stalking and don't want it to come out. I do stand firm in my belief that her death was caused by stress & an accidental overdose. Maybe suicide but there's no way to ever know that.

[TrickyBob]

Also, why did it take so long to become a felony? I don't understand that, she doesn't make it clear. She said it couldn't be and then all of a sudden they were giving her a case number and such.

What changed that it became a felony?

[bonquiqui]

Oct 10, 2012 12:16:20 GMT -5 Que? said:

That sucks.

Do you want to talk about the stalker blog some more as a distraction? I'm not die talking about it, and we could bury it in here so we don't look like speculating dicks.

i couldn't sleep so i read this last night, well started it, and omg so not a good idea

[jaylea]

I never made it to the Brooke/Keenan parts because I just couldn't spend more time on it.

But I just keep thinking how awful and scary it would be to have the tapping. that's some horror movie stuff. Whether the goal was to stalk because of an obsession or just to terrorize, how awful.

Do they ever address if Keenan fits the image they captured by the truck?

[bonquiqui]

Oct 10, 2012 11:52:57 GMT -5 TrickyBob said:

I feel nauseous pretty much all day, every day.

It used to be when I just wouldn't eat enough/too far between eating or if I didn't get much sleep. But I've been eating good and I've been sleeping from like 9 or 10pm to 7 or 8am. But I don't want to do anything during the day because I constantly feel sick. I'd lay back down but I don't want to fall asleep because it ruins me sleeping during the night then.

Nothing hurts, I'm not sick with a cold or flu or anything.

To rule it out, I've taken a pregnancy test (or two) last week and early this week. All negative.

I'm just frustrated and bitching. Feel free to ignore.

Also, I'm pretty pissed that I made a whole chicken the other day and due to my weird ass feelings towards meat, I couldn't eat the damn chicken after I took all the meat off. I thought today I'd make a chicken salad sandwich because I loveeee them but I took a few bites and started over thinking the texture and that was it, no more sandwich for me.

I hate having this complex about meat, it sucks. That chicken looked really good too.

welcome to my life lol it sucks i know have you seen a dr recently?

[sunflower22]

The mom also said shortly after Morgan died, Brooke randomly showed up hysterically crying on the moms doorstep. Sounds like a guilty conscience of someone who was fucking around and didn't realize the girl was going to die.

[TrickyBob]

BQQ - I have not. I have seen many doctors as a teenager and up until I was 20. All just said I was too young for any problems. Now that I got married and moved, I'm hoping I will have better luck with the Doctors up here. I do really need to go...but at the same time I'm scared. I know it's useless to be scared but still.

The blog - No, I do think it's really odd how innocent the Mom makes Morgan out to be. As though Morgan does whatever they want her to. I can understand her being scared but she fought hard to keep going out with friends and such, so it didn't appear that this stalking really got to her as much as the Mom made it seem. I know fear can do crazy things to you but I feel like others; Morgan knew some of what was going on and why so she was nonchalant about it.

I do get the impression that Keenan might have done it, but I'm leaning towards Elliot. Elliot could have very well watched Keenan's car and stopped/started when it was there/wasn't there. He knew too much and offered up weird stuff. That and him moving once being questioned; why move and make yourself never to be found? Unless he was scared of the stalker coming after him.

Also, the Google Earth images. When I downloaded Google Earth to check out that same worn path, it said "images 2010". Her stalking was 2011. Which made that path already there in 2010. How was she getting images in 2011/2012 of things that happened a few short months earlier instead of last year? Or is she trying to say that this dude has been stalking Morgan since the photos were taken in 2010. I even asked my Husband about that and we've always noticed the year stamp on Google earth and Google maps to be 2010. I could be wrong.

[TrickyBob]

But the whole thing still gives me the willies in respect to the fact that Mom has stated that even if it were to come out, 100%, hard fact truth that Morgan took her own life; the Mom wouldn't accept that.

So what do you do with a woman who would never believe, even if proven for certain, that her daughter killed herself?

As shady as both Elliot and Keenan are, I feel like she's going to land an innocent person in jail.

I just hope that she knows and it can be proven 10000% that whoever did it, if they did it, did it.

[Deleted]

The girls friends and her mother stated for the police that she'd had issues with depression, and had used cocaine, weed, and drank regularly. The mom is really painting her with rose colored glasses on, which I understand it is her daughter, but it's causing a huge bias in the blog.

[TrickyBob]

I would like to know the relationship between this Christina woman and Elliot. Could it be bad blood between them and so Elliot is trying to get back at her through the use of Brooke and Keenan?

Also, it's been said on other sites that the Mom has threads shut down about Morgan so that no other information gets out there that doesn't paint Morgan in a pristine light. People even said her FB page was cleaned up and that the Mom (from her blog admitted) she had got ahold of all Morgan's different screen names. People said all that was cleaned up too.

I do understand not wanting your deceased child to look like a dick on the internet but to cover it all up to keep the idea that Morgan was this helpless 20 year old? Somethings not right.

[sake]

I havent read the comments, but I'm all caught up on the blog entries.
I think that if I were the parents, and I wasn't catching anything on the SIX cameras, that I would change their locations or something. so that they better aligned with the motion detectors.
And if the same motion detectors were going off every night at the same time, I would set up outside the house looking where that motion detector picks up motion.

It's frustrating, the whole thing, and WHY THE FUCK didn't the mom shut the fucking windows? I'm a LOUD person, and if I thought someone was listening to me, I would close the damn windows first and foremost.

[sake]

Also, I definitely would have been more annoying and on the ass of that detective, who seems like he didn't really give a fuck most of the time...

[sunflower22]

Oct 10, 2012 12:54:59 GMT -5 TrickyBob said:

As shady as both Elliot and Keenan are, I feel like she's going to land an innocent person in jail.

I just hope that she knows and it can be proven 10000% that whoever did it, if they did it, did it.

She's not going to land anyone in jail bc she can't prove anything. She doesn't even have a good explanation of how he murdered Morgan. Pouring liquid down her throat? With no signs of trauma, no screaming, no ringing the secret doorbell? Now the angle of the stalking causing stress that lead to her death, that makes more sense but still, its been a year. If there were solid proof Keenan did this he would have been arrested already. It's very sad but I think this is a classic example of denial, i don't blame the parents for refusing to accept it.

If this were happening to me my dad would've sat outside w shotgun every night til the little punk showed up.

[Deleted]

1. Why did they leave windows up at night to get a cool breeze?

2. Why would you change up your surveillance if it wasn't catching the guy in a few weeks? Like pointing the cameras AT the house instead of AWAY from it.

3. Did you see the surveillance photo of the guy? Who stalks wearing a white cut off shirt but is completely elusive to everyone?

4. Why didn't the daughter call the cops when she was being followed while driving?

5. Why did the mom only mention the missing jewelry after Keenan got caught pawning jewelry, but won't give detectives a list of the jewelry she alleges is missing. She never mentions jewelry before then.

6. Why would you not get an alarm system? This seems pretty basic considering all the other measure taken, especially if you think someone is punching the keycode in your door to come in.

7. She says the drug that killed her was a date rape drug, and that's not true.


I'm not saying something didn't happen, I'm just saying the mom isn't exactly bringing the right kind of interest to the case when she leaves so much to question.

[TrickyBob]

It kills me that the parents wouldn't put down money for a security system.

If my kid was being stalked like this, I'd shovel out as much as I could afford.

Security cameras aren't cheap. 1 is around 100 to 200 bucks. 6 WITH monitors? That's at least a grand. Actually, I believe Wal-mart sells 2 with monitors for around 400? (So they already were putting out money, they could have put out some more damn it. Also, the one officer told her that she'd get half the money back if they installed security and for the motion lights and cameras. So reasonably, they could have afforded it.)

Also, maybe I was wrong. The dates on the photos do say 2012.

[sake]

Yeah, Why didn't they just call ADT and get an alarm system???
And also, WHY didn't they put an actual key lock on the front door whey they KNEW someone was trying to use the key pad to get in?

[sunflower22]

Another thing - her mom keeps saying Morgan never ever in the 3 years prior took whatever is the name of the drug that killed her.. A-something. Yet the police report said she had a prescription for it in her bedroom the day she died! That's just a straight up lie.

[charlotte]

Oct 10, 2012 12:31:25 GMT -5 TrickyBob said:

Oct 10, 2012 12:27:10 GMT -5 Que? said:

See, I think this is the good part of us discussing this. I think their awareness campaign is working in the sense that wears talking about what we would do differently. She said repeatedly that they didn't understand how serious it was,and that they thought it would go away.

I've been curious about the ID thing. Why would you show ID to buy nail polish? It makes no sense, unless you still have to show ID to use a credit card?

People huff nail polish. I've been to a store or two that has made me show my ID in order to buy nail polish and nail polish remover. As well as white out.

But, if Keenan lived two? doors up, wouldn't he already know where she lived?

I'm still questioning why no one has come out and said "look lady, clear our names!" but from how it reads, it seems as though Brook and Keenan never came forth to clear their names.

Keenan moved in with Brooke and her dad at the end of July. The ID thing happened way before that, I guess. I also think it's weird that he moved in the end of July and the stalking began August 2nd.

[TrickyBob]

Oct 10, 2012 13:27:54 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

Oct 10, 2012 13:17:11 GMT -5 sake said:

Yeah, Why didn't they just call ADT and get an alarm system???
And also, WHY didn't they put an actual key lock on the front door whey they KNEW someone was trying to use the key pad to get in?

I don't think they thought someone was trying to get in, I think they thought he was just pushing the buttons to fuck with them.

IRT the ID and the nail polish, that happened a couple months before he moved in the neighborhood. He moved in at the end of July and the stalking started around August 2nd.

Still, that Elliot guy is giving me the creeps.

But the pressing of passcode buttons scared them enough to change their passcode. If they were scared enough to change the code, because they'd be scared of him getting in, you'd think they'd be scared of him entering the house.

You'd think.

[sunflower22]

I feel like I'm talking to myself. Lol.

[TrickyBob]

Well now this is interesting.

I put my own address into Google Earth. I then used the historical button to go back to 2007. The same photo that shows up in 2012, shows up in 2007. Google Earth is using March 2007's photo for 2012.

So, if that is the case, the Mom cannot even be sure that the berm had that path in it solely in 2011 and 2012. That photo could be from 4 to 5 years ago.

ETA: And if she believes that she is using a 2012 photo, a YEAR LATER. Why would that path still be as worn in as it looks? Morgan's been dead almost a year at that point. If it wasn't used, it'd be over grown.

Also, if I were the new owners of their house, I'd be a bit pissed off that she's telling the world where I live. lol.

[underwaterrhymes]

betty - you pretty much sum up all the questions I have, too.

[sake]

Oct 10, 2012 13:36:16 GMT -5 TrickyBob said:

Well now this is interesting.

I put my own address into Google Earth. I then used the historical button to go back to 2007. The same photo that shows up in 2012, shows up in 2007. Google Earth is using March 2007's photo for 2012.

So, if that is the case, the Mom cannot even be sure that the berm had that path in it solely in 2011 and 2012. That photo could be from 4 to 5 years ago.

ETA: And if she believes that she is using a 2012 photo, a YEAR LATER. Why would that path still be as worn in as it looks? Morgan's been dead almost a year at that point. If it wasn't used, it'd be over grown.

Also, if I were the new owners of their house, I'd be a bit pissed off that she's telling the world where I live. lol.

She said that she went back there to use a metal detector on the berm recently, and that they whole thing had been mowed down. And that she was suspicious of that b/c in all the time they lived there, it had never been mowed, even when there were wild fires near by, and it posed a fire risk.

I don't know about the google earth images being recent or not.

Also, i dont understand what you mean by the bolded part. I didn't see her use names of new owners or anything...

[TrickyBob]

Oct 10, 2012 13:42:36 GMT -5 sake said:

Oct 10, 2012 13:36:16 GMT -5 TrickyBob said:

Well now this is interesting.

I put my own address into Google Earth. I then used the historical button to go back to 2007. The same photo that shows up in 2012, shows up in 2007. Google Earth is using March 2007's photo for 2012.

So, if that is the case, the Mom cannot even be sure that the berm had that path in it solely in 2011 and 2012. That photo could be from 4 to 5 years ago.

ETA: And if she believes that she is using a 2012 photo, a YEAR LATER. Why would that path still be as worn in as it looks? Morgan's been dead almost a year at that point. If it wasn't used, it'd be over grown.

Also, if I were the new owners of their house, I'd be a bit pissed off that she's telling the world where I live. lol.

She said that she went back there to use a metal detector on the berm recently, and that they whole thing had been mowed down. And that she was suspicious of that b/c in all the time they lived there, it had never been mowed, even when there were wild fires near by, and it posed a fire risk.

I don't know about the google earth images being recent or not.

Also, i dont understand what you mean by the bolded part. I didn't see her use names of new owners or anything...

She's posting the address on her blog, it's online.

I know it's normal to be able to look up people's address but I wouldn't feel okay living in a home that is connected to this on going blog trying to prove her daughter's murder.

I guess it isn't a big deal, I wasn't thinking when I posted that, that normal addresses are online for all to see.

I'd just be scared random people who want to check out the house because they saw the address on her blog.