Is anyone following the story of Morgan Ingram?

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Hmm? Anyone? Thoughts?

It's a fascinating case.

[CallingAllAngels]

I had never heard of her but I googled after reading this post. I don't see any information on her except for a couple websites that look like they are run by her parents. From those, I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what happened (maybe because it sounds like no one knows?). It seems like a weird story for sure.

[ijack]

Is this the girl they were talking about on ML the other day? She's from CO and I hadn't heard of her either.

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She was stalked for four months in her home and found dead in her bed one morning. The police ruled it a suicide. Her parents don't believe it was suicide and started speaking out to get her cause of death changed to murder. The police report paints her as a troubled girl, on multiple prescriptions and illegal drug use, her mom started a blog and paints her as a saint and says the police neglected to investigate her death and lied on the police report and goes as far as to name names as to who she thinks killed her. The case was mentioned on ML a few days ago and her dad showed up to give a link to her blog. I kind of got sucked into it one day.

The information is pretty compelling on both sides of the story, suicide vs murder. There are a lot of holes in the story, in both her moms side, and the side of the police.

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Oct 11, 2012 8:32:05 GMT -5 ijack said:

Is this the girl they were talking about on ML the other day? She's from CO and I hadn't heard of her either.

All the crazy shit happens in CO.

[niemand88f]

I've just started working my way through the blog, I haven't looked up other information yet. It is really easy to believe the blog on one hand, on the other it is hard to believe the police and coroner would really be so incompetent. The blog certainly creates a very compelling story to follow... I found myself getting more and more tense as time went on, knowing that all the events described in the blog culminate somehow in her death.

[lanyac]

Oct 11, 2012 8:39:25 GMT -5 papiercherri said:

Oct 11, 2012 8:32:05 GMT -5 ijack said:

Is this the girl they were talking about on ML the other day? She's from CO and I hadn't heard of her either.

All the crazy shit happens in CO.

Or Florida.

[Deleted]

I'm reading the blog. I'm a few weeks in. It's gripping. Very sad too.

[definitelyO]

I hadn't heard of her until I popped over the ML the other day. I did not and will not read that blog.

[Deleted]

I had read through it before the long thread on ML. I'm torn because I think it's fascinating but it feels somewhat exploitative.

[Deleted]

I read the blog. It's terrifying but I feel like the truth lies soewhere in the middle of the mother's version and the police version. I don't thik Morgan was a saint but I don't think she was as troubled as the police seem to say.

The pictures from the wildlife cam are particularly disturbing to me. While the family went to great measures to protect their daugter, I find some of their choices odd.

The whole thing is horrifying.

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Link to the blog please

[twodogsandababy]

I started reading the blog yesterday and had to stop because it freaked me out too much. (H is gone, so I am home alone for a long time.)

I really wanted to continue to read it, it was fascinating. I can't imagine the horror her family must have felt, but really do question why they did things the way they did. I know hindsight is 20/20 and I feel badly doubting a grieving family. It just seems like the first response would have been a home security system instead of all this DIY high tech stuff and taking off chasing the guy in the dark with pepper spray after you have to get dressed when you get out of bed. Either way, the point the mom makes about the high number of deaths ruled suicide in their town and very low number of murders is interesting. I hope her family can have some peace at some point in their life, but I feel like this will consume them for the rest of their lives. It is all so sad.

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Mom's Blog-http://morganingram.com/wordpress/

blog with police reports (I'm not sure who set up this site)-http://truthformorgan.wordpress.com/

twodogsandababy- I don't understand why they did some of the things they did either. It kind of baffles me, actually.

[turtle1120]

I read it. I absolutely believe the girl was stalked. I don't get the way her parents were always running out the door trying to catch the guy. Why not just call the police and let them roll up with lights/sirens off? I think they would have been more successful that way. But, like others said, hindsight is 20/20.

I don't know what to make of her death. I have a hard time believing it was a murder. They have zero evidence that someone else was in the home. It seems that Morgan may have had some medical issues/conditions, but her mother insists those things are private. I don't know that the stalking and the death necessarily seem to be related.

[Deleted]

Ok I am still reading it but I have some comments. The family hinted somewhere that they were not well off financial (did not have money to hire a security company) but they spent a lot of $$$ on the keyless locks, cams, sensors, spray ect.

I know Morgan did not want to leave school or her puppy or change her life for the stalker but as a parent I would have demanded my child go back to the relatives in Kaui.

I am also shocked that after knowing for a fact there was a stalker (footprints) that they waited so long to get curtains to cover their back windows.

Lastly, the stalker escalated by now showing up even when the daughter was not home. Why not involve the police or send her away then?

[CallingAllAngels]

Oct 11, 2012 11:28:27 GMT -5 turtle1120 said:

I don't know what to make of her death. I have a hard time believing it was a murder. They have zero evidence that someone else was in the home. It seems that Morgan may have had some medical issues/conditions, but her mother insists those things are private. I don't know that the stalking and the death necessarily seem to be related.

See this is what I kind of have a problem with. It sounds like Morgan was on anti-depressants (which she was prescribed) but they are saying that her medical record is private. I admire the parents for trying to protect their daughter, but if you are trying to determine whether it was a suicide vs. homicide, then her mental health record is pretty important.

I didn't read the blog, just the website, which is really lacking in information.

[jaylea]

I just read the police report of her death, and it says at the bottom that her cause of death was natural, and then amended to suicide? What?

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vi and angel- I kind of have the same thinking.

It just doesn't add up at all. The police report says she actually had three prescriptions and medical marijuana and it also says that the parents stated she kept a box of wine in her bedroom and would sometimes drink before bed. There are some forums who are upset that every single time they ask about this, she never approves the comment on her blog or she deletes it on the Facebook page. Then she goes on to say that her medical information is private. Well, that's nice, but if you want people to stand behind you and bring attention to shoddy police work, you have to convince them that the police actually did something wrong when they determined she overdosed.

I'm also just really baffled that, upon knowing someone is lurking outside their house and stalking them at night, they don't check locks, leave windows open, allow their daughter to take her dog outside in the dark by herself, and don't put up curtains covering all windows. Baffled. I do believe she had a stalker, though.

[newgirl1]

Did anyone else thing it was strange that neither of their dogs seemed to ever bark when the stuff was hitting the house.

She made a point to say the new puppy had never barked/growled in the 4 months they'd had it (save once) and their older dog only barked ONE night in response to the noises.

My dog is pretty vocal, so I may just not know what a quiet dog is like.

[madringal]

I don't know what to think, but after her dad posted on ML I decided to stay away from the blog. All of it is too weird.

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Oct 11, 2012 14:11:13 GMT -5 papiercherri said:

I'm also just really baffled that, upon knowing someone is lurking outside their house and stalking them at night, they don't check locks, leave windows open, allow their daughter to take her dog outside in the dark by herself, and don't put up curtains covering all windows. Baffled. I do believe she had a stalker, though.

Ding ding ding (I forgot to mention this too). Look if I thought someone was lurking outside my home I would be damn well sure to keep the windows closed no matter how damn hot I was.

Now with that being said I realize that was summer 2011 which was one of the hottest on record but still...dont they have AC? It looks like a relatively new subdivision.

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Ugh I know I sound like I am blaming the parents for this (I am not) but I am just so confused.

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Oct 11, 2012 14:35:37 GMT -5 vigurl said:

Oct 11, 2012 14:11:13 GMT -5 papiercherri said:

I'm also just really baffled that, upon knowing someone is lurking outside their house and stalking them at night, they don't check locks, leave windows open, allow their daughter to take her dog outside in the dark by herself, and don't put up curtains covering all windows. Baffled. I do believe she had a stalker, though.

Ding ding ding (I forgot to mention this too). Look if I thought someone was lurking outside my home I would be damn well sure to keep the windows closed no matter how damn hot I was.

Now with that being said I realize that was summer 2011 which was one of the hottest on record but still...dont they have AC? It looks like a relatively new subdivision.

I think somewhere on some website I read that they did have AC, but they didn't want to turn it on or something. There were two different occasions where she mentioned leaving the windows open. One was where Morgan was sleeping in the master bedroom closet and the mom kept asking if Morgan was okay in the closet and all that jazz, and she said she talks loud, so that's how the stalker knew Morgan was sleeping in there. She assumes the stalker heard her talking to Morgan while the window was open.

Then on another occasion the mom was sitting in front of window, in the middle of the night, with the curtains open, talking to Morgan about spending the night at a friends house so she could get a good night's sleep, then something hit the window.

I'm just having a really hard time understanding why anyone would leave their first floor windows and curtains open at night when they know they have a stalker who stalks them while they are IN THEIR HOME on a regular basis.

And this whole case is littered with things like this that just don't compute in my head.

Clearly this has been my night time reading material...

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papiercherri - ditto everything you just posted. I understand their house backs up to grass on a hill but seriously you need to have window coverings.

[shopgirl07]

I question whether there ever was a stalker. If there was, he would have had to be a very sophisticated criminal to avoid detection with all of the motion lights, cameras, etc. No way those two kids down the street could have pulled that shit off. I also read all of the police reports and it just doesn't seem like Keenan could have done it.

I think what troubles me is the mom leaves so much info out. Apparently Morgan had some emotional problems and used prescription drugs, marijuana, cocaine and alcohol. Yet the mother insists she didn't even have a prescription for the drugs found in her system. The police reports also state that Morgan and her mother had a big fight the night before she died because she took the car without permission and came home late. Yet her mother says in the blog that there were no issues that night.

The police were at their home over 50 times in 4 months. I just think they would have found SOMETHING if she was being stalked. Most criminals mess up at some point. I don't know, she certainly could have been stalked. But there's no way someone came into the home and killed her. I think she died of a drug overdose.

[changedname]

I believe 100% she was stalked and I totally see why they think it was that kid on the same street (his myspace creeped me out but he was probably a weird obsessive not a murderer). I'm not sure how I feel about the mom posting his name and details on the blog - I feel like they are stting themselves up for more trouble.

I don't understand why they didn't just move house as it wasn't owned anyway or send her away. I cannot believe they stayed in that house after all that. It totally creeps me out.

[Pilsy]

I only read a little of this and find the whole thing very disturbing and sad.

And not to be insensitive and self-centered, but now I'm afraid I'm going to have nightmares.

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Oct 11, 2012 14:18:01 GMT -5 @newgirl1 said:

Did anyone else thing it was strange that neither of their dogs seemed to ever bark when the stuff was hitting the house.

She made a point to say the new puppy had never barked/growled in the 4 months they'd had it (save once) and their older dog only barked ONE night in response to the noises.

My dog is pretty vocal, so I may just not know what a quiet dog is like.

Yes, this was what did not sit right with me. Now when my old dog was alive, he would not of heard it, but my younger dog goes nuts over any noise.

[pugz]

yeah I was also scratching my head about them leaving the windows open, not having blinds/curtains, etc. I am not sure I believe there really was a stalker.