f/u LLL Meeting - it was weird

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I'm glad you got something useful from it, even if it wasn't new BFF

Our group here is bigger - there are always at least 7 or 8 moms and sometimes up to 20. I have leaders I like and leaders I don't, and that really can make or break a meeting for me.

Other mom groups are definitely worth checking out. And don't let them scare you off if you DO have different questions next month.

[starlily]

Trust your instinct and go with whatever works for you.

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Yeah, I went to one LLL meeting & my overall impression was that it was weird. They are helpful on the BFing though.

[pugz]

lol I would throw down over the swaddle. That shit is magical!

does your hospital have a BF support group? Most hospitals have one and you don't have to have delivered there to go to it.

I go to a super crunchy moms group on Friday mornings where almost everyone BFs. I feel weird pulling out my bottle of formula but no one messes with me.

[pugz]

good fucking lord

my baby would NEVER SLEEP if not swaddled. We swaddle her and she starts babbling and cooing and laughing she is so happy and then conks right out and takes 2 hour naps. I let her nap on my chest today unswaddled when she was fussy and it was a horrible nap.

happiest baby is the shit. swaddle for life yo! (no not really, lol)

[Brie]

Nov 1, 2012 21:37:50 GMT -5 @msstarry said:

pugz - the one lady said "in a cave, were babies swaddled? no! they just used you as their source of heat and comfort." That was pretty much what they said to everything like "why use a pacifier?! all you need is mom!" It was like dude I get bored easily and can't be attached to a child 50000 hours a day.

LOL. Caveman babies probably also died all the time.

[sewpinkgal]

I'll ditto the rec for a hospital BF support group if there is one in your area. I LOVED mine - like I was almost in tears when we stopped BFing and I felt like I couldn't go anymore. It was such a bright spot in my week, especially when J was still really little and I spent a lot of the day listening to him scream. Ours was run by 4 LCs, at least two of whom were also RNs. All of them were also moms. It was a really supportive group and they never gave anyone who swaddled/used a pacifier/used formula, etc a hard time.

signed,
Swaddle Addict

[knitty]

I can't imagine why heir group is dying.

I almost came to blows over dummies with an LLL leader once. It must have been awesome to watch. I won by sheer weight of data, of course. I mean, seriously, oversupply!?

[gibbinator]

Um ds is still swaddled at night. He loves his straight jacket

Glad it was at least somewhat helpful!

[DarcyLongfellow]

You know what? I bet cave babies were swaddled. In animal fur or something! Isn't it one of those universal baby care techniques? Like, swaddling clothes in the manger and all that?

Glad they gave you some good tips. Just keep on ignoring their other advice :-)

[MadamePresident]

Cave babies were probably worn in a sling of sorts, which would be similar to being swaddled.

Although my child doesn't like being swaddled. I try it every few days, but nope, she has to have her arms out.

Sorry that your LLL group is so weird. I have one in my area that had 12 moms and they all seemed nice and weren't judgy. Of course the only meeting I attended was when I was still pregnant, so it may be different now that I have a baby.

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Very different from my LLL group. Sorry

[froggy76]

Pacifiers rule. So do swaddles. That's all I have to add.

[karinothing]

I also think caveman babies were swaddled? They wrapped them up tightly in furs and stuff.

Sorry you didn't have a good experience. I know some of the LLL ladies can be a little intense. Do you have more than one group in your area?

[ECB]

Happiest Baby and the 5 S's is what allowed me to keep my sanity!!! It was seriously like magic.

And the caveman comment? What idiots.

[Jem]

I had a wonderful experience with a general mom's group in my area. It was full of like-minded moms who were completely supportive of every decision. I can honestly say that through the 3 months I never heard a judgmental word - pretty impressive! We also had an amazing facilitator though and she really set the tone. My mom's group was a lifesaver - just to have a reason to get out of the apartment and talk to adults!

[h]

That sounds really annoying. And I am scratching my head over the swaddling thing. I am not surprised at the paci comment coming from an LLL leader, but I have never heard attachment parenting types come down as anti-swaddling before. As others have pointed out, "cave babies" were likely swaddled in some manner (not that that matters, as I am not sure why cave babies are the example we should aspire to). And I don't see how wearing your baby in a wrap or sling is that different.

[pugz]

yeah swaddling and the whole "4th trimester" theory of HBOTB seem very AP to me, weird.

were the leaders older? I know swaddling is somewhat of a generational thing.

[satsuma]

I've perused through the LLLi forums before and have come across other anti-swaddling sentiments. The feeling seems to be that you're tricking your baby into sleeping longer when they should be waking up to nurse. Lots of cultures swaddle, though, even ones with much higher breastfeeding rates than the US. I have received a lot of help and support through LLL, but I do have to filter out some of the advice, which can be really hard when you're a new mom and feeling vulnerable. I do belong to a moms group and love it so I highly encourage finding one!

[Ashley&Scott]

Sorry the group wasn't a good fit but I'm glad you got some helpful bf tips. (the caveman baby comparison is weird)

Hopefully you'll find a regular moms group you like soon

[Willis Jackson]

You know, whenever I face a parenting dilemma, I ask myself "What would a cavewoman do?"

[SusanBAnthony]

I tried a daytime group that was odd. It just didn't work for me.

Then I found a nighttime group with a lot of working moms, and it was awesome. So, it just depends.

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Nov 2, 2012 7:44:55 GMT -5 ECB said:

Happiest Baby and the 5 S's is what allowed me to keep my sanity!!! It was seriously like magic.

And the caveman comment? What idiots.

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