this is fair, right? work related

[hannamaren]

when I left on maternity leave in October, 2011 - I was a manager. when you return after your year, you are guaranteed by law to be put back into an equivalent position.

I was offered a manager position, but I didnt want it because the hours were not what I wanted. My boss told me that I wouldnt want to not be a manager, but I said the hours were more important so we agreed on a new store where I would just be staff.

Then she still sent me to the manager conference saying that I may end up in a manager position within the next year if one opens up with good hours, etc. In other words, she thinks I am manager material.

So the day before I am to start at my new spot, she calls me and tells me that a manager spot has opened up with good hours and am I interested. I jump and say "yes, please" but the position wont be open for a month, so I start at the non-manager spot for now.

Then she goes on vacation for a week. During that time, one of the other staff people at this non-manager location where I am this week quits. so if I leave, there will be 2 holes there. not my fault, but sucks for my boss, I guess.

She just came back from vacation and tells me that apparently, the job has to be posted and she has to do interviews. I have to interview next week.

I think this is the way the real world normally does it, but we dont usually post openings unless nobody is interested internally. And that interest is usually just by the boss calling and saying "I want you to go here"

I am worried she is going back on her offer because she doesnt want two holes at the same store and the other job would be easier to fill (no evenings or weekends)
can I say anything at the interview to address this?

if you read the whole thing - thanks!

[EmilieMadison]

Sounds like you weren't offered the new manager job, you were told about the opportunity. And now you will interview like everyone else. Now, whether it's because they truly want to evaluate your fit for this position or because it's simply a formality, it doesnt matter. That's what they're doing, and what they should do. Good luck!
If your boss said you would be a good fit, then I'd have high hopes. I just wouldn't consider the job yours until you have an actual offer/change in writing.

[vanillacourage]

"are you interested?" is not a job offer, unless there was much more to the conversation than what you've posted.

[hannamaren]

She definitely offered it to me. She told me what day I would start. It was only on the phone. But she was leaving for vacation and didnt want to go without talking to me.
This is the issue with my company. They normally dont do anything the right way (make an offer, post a new position) so ow they are (which is good) and now I am suspicious. As long as they continue to do it in the future.

[hannamaren]

Nov 12, 2012 21:10:30 GMT -5 vanillacourage said:

"are you interested?" is not a job offer, unless there was much more to the conversation than what you've posted.

You are right, I didnt explain it well.

She said "if you are interested, then .i wont have to post it and I can go away on vacation and not worry about it"
But maybe she found out that isnt allowed anymore?
We talked hours I would work, ideas to fix things there, etc.

[EmilieMadison]

Telling you the day you "would start" doesn't mean she's offering you the job, though. I mean, what did she say exactly?

[dr.girlfriend]

Here you *have* to post positions, even if you 100% plan to fill them internally. But to have you interview for the position...yeah, it's not a lock. I'm not sure what the "fair" part means, though...you turned down an equivalent position to the one you had, you're not guaranteed the first open spot.

IIRC she also told you not to tell your current boss that you were leaving, right? -- and this was before she went on vacation. So even before the other person at your store left, I think you weren't a lock for the manager spot. Sorry.

[Deleted]

Hmm - I get your question from a Canadian law perspective, which guarantees a similar job position post-maternity. However, since you turned THAT job down, I'm wondering if legally, it still applies.

I think she probably wants to hire you for the manager position but has to follow protocol.

[AAM2012]

Nov 12, 2012 21:26:18 GMT -5 dr.girlfriend said:

Here you *have* to post positions, even if you 100% plan to fill them internally. But to have you interview for the position...yeah, it's not a lock. I'm not sure what the "fair" part means, though...you turned down an equivalent position to the one you had, you're not guaranteed the first open spot.

Yeah, I'm confused about what you're really asking here...

[hannamaren]

Nov 12, 2012 22:16:01 GMT -5 AAM2012 said:

Nov 12, 2012 21:26:18 GMT -5 dr.girlfriend said:

Here you *have* to post positions, even if you 100% plan to fill them internally. But to have you interview for the position...yeah, it's not a lock. I'm not sure what the "fair" part means, though...you turned down an equivalent position to the one you had, you're not guaranteed the first open spot.

Yeah, I'm confused about what you're really asking here...

I guess I will know more next week.