a random about shiloh jolie-pitt

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I find it weird that some people responding all breezy in this thread are the very same people that have rarely, if ever, posted a picture of their kids when we were on TN.

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Child predators are turned on my children regardless of their state of dress. That's what makes them child predators.

ETA: And I think Shiloh thinks her big brothers are bad ass and wants to be just like them when she grows up. Pushing her that way my ass.

[pantsparty]

May 25, 2012 20:50:34 GMT -5 @french75 said:

FFS people. The point isn't about nudity in general. It's about nudity when that picture is being sold to thousands of media outlets.

Boys and girls look the same from the waist up until 8 or so. Angelina + Brad are well aware that their children will be highly photographed. Really, there is nothing wrong with this photo. We would not know it was a girl except the fact that her parents are uber-famous. And even so, this is normal behavior for a child. I remember eschewing all things girly around that age, being surrounded with 4 brothers. I think a mountain is being made out of a molehill.

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I guess none of us will ever know until Shiloh releases her book.

[pantsparty]

May 25, 2012 19:43:39 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

May 25, 2012 19:40:28 GMT -5 saraandmichael said:

if an exact replica of the picture above of my child ended up on the internet i would not, in the slightest, give a shit.

Really? Wow, that's pretty chill. And I completely don't mean that in a snarky way, at all. Clearly, I am getting my ideas from uptight people, lol, or I've watched too many reruns of To Catch A Predator.

Like a PP said, I wouldn't want my kids splashed all over the internet either. I, too, would be a lousy famous person.

Well, what would YOU do? Not let your kids be kids? "Sorry, sweetie, mommy and daddy are really famous (even though you don't understand that), so we're going to need you to put on this shirt."

As pp said, child predators are fucked up and so long as you are not letting your children run around naked, then WHAT are they doing wrong by letting their child wear swim trunks?

[melindafelinda]

This has nothing to do with the conversation, but I really hate Angelina. She reminds me of some too cool older cousin who is always judging me. Stop judging me, Angelina!

[housegeek]

I think this is an odd thing to have a steamed debate about.

[housegeek]

Oops no, you don't seem steamed, all the " breezy" posts seem a bit incredulous and heated that someone wouldn't want their kids pic pasted everywhere its just an odd thing to be debated.

[lazyphoque]

So would those of you who find this inappropriate find it equally inappropriate if Shiloh were a boy?

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May 25, 2012 21:09:18 GMT -5 pantsparty said:

May 25, 2012 19:43:39 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

Really? Wow, that's pretty chill. And I completely don't mean that in a snarky way, at all. Clearly, I am getting my ideas from uptight people, lol, or I've watched too many reruns of To Catch A Predator.

Like a PP said, I wouldn't want my kids splashed all over the internet either. I, too, would be a lousy famous person.

Well, what would YOU do? Not let your kids be kids? "Sorry, sweetie, mommy and daddy are really famous (even though you don't understand that), so we're going to need you to put on this shirt."

As pp said, child predators are fucked up and so long as you are not letting your children run around naked, then WHAT are they doing wrong by letting their child wear swim trunks?

I guess I'm lucky this is a moot point for me, my boys are so pale they practically glow, so they wear UV shirts in the pool. The paparazzi still creep in our bushes though, the fuckers.

[-Moe-]

I'm not even going to dignify the whole topless vs not debacle, mostly because, coming from an European island, this was par for the course. In fact, a child as young as Shiloh in that picture would have been completely appropriate totally nude, and the only reason that gave me the creeps is that I always envisioned hermit crabs coming up from the sand and getting in their crotch.

But I always wonder the other topic - the whole "allowing Shiloh to pick/be what she wants to be". I don't know at what time child development and preferences (and fundamental knowledge) of what's girl/boy centric beyond marketing, but it seems that the reason girl things are marketed to girls (and vice versa) is because the public (consumer) demands this - and in this case, the paying consumer is the parent, no?

So in that sense, wouldn't the parents be the culprits, regardless of whether it's mentioned that Shiloh was the one that wants things that are traditionally marketed for boys?

I mean, when do you really pick? Isn't most of everything picked by your parents anyway at that point?

Maybe I am wrong (Well, certainly)

AND WHY MUST EVERYTHING BE GENDER SPECIFIC/CENTRIC! When will we be equals...

(lights a flame)

[lazyphoque]

May 25, 2012 21:43:24 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

At what age should children start being fully clothed in public?

I'm a damn dirty hippie and think they should be fully clothed when they cease to feel comfortable not being fully clothed. Since this is not the social norm, though, I'll go with sometime prior to adolescence. I just can't bring myself to be concerned about a four year old girl's upper body because someday she will have boobs - it further feeds the early sexualization of girls, imo.

[saraandmichael]

moe, i think you are on to something about the parents choosing and the gender specificity.

and she has brothers and sisters...it stands to reason that she would be just as influenced by the boys as she would the girls.

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moe, have you noticed that the toy aisles at the target are color coded? yellow for toys for 18 mos and younger, then pink or blue. MAKES ME LIVID. i rage about it to my husband all the time.

anyway, there are gender normative things that i think people buy into because they're normative for a reason (i.e, it's what most people of different genders prefer). but i think those things are an incredibly narrow band of what's actually presented as "boyish" or "girlish." it's hard because just to want to let your kid be free (barf, i know) you're either buying into or fighting against a gender stereotype. other than, like, monkey bars at the playground there's almost nothing that's presented as neutral. once you're 19 mos old.

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It really irks the piss out of me when people differentiate between adopted and "natural" siblings. Zahara is Shiloh's sister. That is all.

And yeah, she has a sister but what if her sister is all into prissy ass girly things Shiloh finds boring? Maybe she's drawn to the boys because their style of play appeals to her. Not all girls want to play tea party.

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May 25, 2012 22:22:58 GMT -5 saraandmichael said:

moe, i think you are on to something about the parents choosing and the gender specificity.

and she has brothers and sisters...it stands to reason that she would be just as influenced by the boys as she would the girls.

Plus, there are more older boys than there are younger girls. I think Zahara looks pretty particular about how her things are handled. Playing pirates in the yard seems a far sight more appealing than sitting in the shade of her sister's withering gaze or playing with the babies.

But I'm just guessing from pictures. God only knows what it's like in that house.

[-Moe-]

People, I'm the LAST person that you should be listening to regarding any topic child centric.

Though, cville, today I went to Target to the toy section, my nephew's birthday party is tomorrow, and I was tasked to get something that's dragon or knight centric, since that's the theme of the party. TURNS OUT, there's NOTHING that's either one of those. There was a zillion legos, nerf shooting things, little action figures (What the hell do they do with those?)!! and just random things that my puny imagination couldn't fathom what was their utility.

But I DID notice that.

There was also a Hulk like foot stamp in the floor, conveniently showing the path towards the Avengers action figures. I wasn't aware that Hulk was part of the Avengers. I think this may be as flameful as not knowing who the original Obi Wan was.

At the end, I got this. I fear that I won't be as cool an aunt with it. Damn it, boys are hard.

[-Moe-]

May 25, 2012 22:36:22 GMT -5 heybetch said:

May 25, 2012 22:35:07 GMT -5 -Moe- said:

I wasn't aware that Hulk was part of the Avengers. I think this may be as flameful as not knowing who the original Obi Wan was.

It is.

I know. Shame

:: puts face down ::

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May 25, 2012 22:33:08 GMT -5 toledo said:

May 25, 2012 22:30:26 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

Sorry, I do actually completely agree on that point. I just didn't know their names, but knew one was adopted and the other was born to Jolie, and was using that to differentiate between which child I meant.

that's exactly what I thought you meant, nic.

I know that's what you meant as well. But one is older and one is younger. You could have said that as well.

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I really didn't mean it to sound as hosebeasty as it did, I promise. Or hosebeasty at all for that matter.

Zahara with the shank eye is the older girl, Shiloh is the middle girl, and Vivienne is one of the twins. Of the boys Maddox is the Cambodian one, Pax is Vietnamese, and Knox is the other twin.

I think Pax is younger than Maddox but older than Zahara but I'm really not sure.

[saraandmichael]

May 25, 2012 22:35:07 GMT -5 -Moe- said:

People, I'm the LAST person that you should be listening to regarding any topic child centric.

Though, cville, today I went to Target to the toy section, my nephew's birthday party is tomorrow, and I was tasked to get something that's dragon or knight centric, since that's the theme of the party. TURNS OUT, there's NOTHING that's either one of those. There was a zillion legos, nerf shooting things, little action figures (What the hell do they do with those?)!! and just random things that my puny imagination couldn't fathom what was their utility.

But I DID notice that.

There was also a Hulk like foot stamp in the floor, conveniently showing the path towards the Avengers action figures. I wasn't aware that Hulk was part of the Avengers. I think this may be as flameful as not knowing who the original Obi Wan was.

At the end, I got this. I fear that I won't be as cool an aunt with it. Damn it, boys are hard.

my kids love imaginext and those guys are the coolest. you'll still be a cool aunt.

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"shank eye" might be my favorite thing that i've learned this week. and tonight i also learned that there were 5 boys born in the u.s. named "governor."

[CheshireGrin]

May 25, 2012 22:47:25 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

I really didn't mean it to sound as hosebeasty as it did, I promise. Or hosebeasty at all for that matter.

Zahara with the shank eye is the older girl, Shiloh is the middle girl, and Vivienne is one of the twins. Of the boys Maddox is the Cambodian one, Pax is Vietnamese, and Knox is the other twin.

I think Pax is younger than Maddox but older than Zahara but I'm really not sure.

I'm impressed that you can even name all of them, let alone remember details about each one.

Impressed and a little scared.

I'm gonna pretend you Googled, okay?

[-Moe-]

What the hell are that? What do they do? I want to know in case they ask me and don't know what they are, so I'll tell them what an awesome thing it is. Nephew who's birthday it is is turning 3, but his older brother, 5, will indubitably claim it for himself. Weird dynamic.

I NEED TO BE COOL.

Yes, my desire to belong is restricted to minors, evidently. Wait, that sounds a bit Michael Jackson-y, no? UNMEANT!

[-Moe-]

Also, I had to google shank eye.

ESL yo!

[eb777888]

May 25, 2012 22:52:25 GMT -5 cville said:

"shank eye" might be my favorite thing that i've learned this week. and tonight i also learned that there were 5 boys born in the u.s. named "governor."

:::nods::::
shank eye is awesome, lol lol.

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May 25, 2012 22:53:20 GMT -5 CheshireGrin said:

I'm impressed that you can even name all of them, let alone remember details about each one.

Impressed and a little scared.

I'm gonna pretend you Googled, okay?

I'm not sure if this makes it better or worse but I know the names of most celebrity kids.

I have a serious addiction to celebrity gossip.

[saraandmichael]

May 25, 2012 22:53:25 GMT -5 -Moe- said:

What the hell are that? What do they do? I want to know in case they ask me and don't know what they are, so I'll tell them what an awesome thing it is. Nephew who's birthday it is is turning 3, but his older brother, 5, will indubitably claim it for himself. Weird dynamic.

I NEED TO BE COOL.

Yes, my desire to belong is restricted to minors, evidently. Wait, that sounds a bit Michael Jackson-y, no? UNMEANT!

he's a knight thats riding on a horse thing. it has wings, right? you just play pretend with them. my kids love to play pretend (well, not so much noah anymore since he's older, but when he was little he did).

and they are plastic so they can go into the bath, too.

they go along with the imaginext castles...do they have one? if not, you will win mega cool points if you get them one for christmas.

[CheshireGrin]

May 25, 2012 22:55:09 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

May 25, 2012 22:53:20 GMT -5 CheshireGrin said:

I'm impressed that you can even name all of them, let alone remember details about each one.

Impressed and a little scared.

I'm gonna pretend you Googled, okay?

I'm not sure if this makes it better or worse but I know the names of most celebrity kids.

I have a serious addiction to celebrity gossip.

I can name every actress who played Catwoman in the 1960s Batman TV series.

Everyone needs a talent, yo.

[housegeek]

Had to google shank eye and hosebeast...