I had a few glasses of wine here and there - nothing until 20 weeks, and then I think I probably had 5 glasses of champagne, 8 glasses of wine and maybe two beers (total) from then until I delivered. So I was drinking but never a lot at once and never getting drunk obviously.
I decided not to, but I get worried so easily at anything pregnancy related. I'm even one who has skipped out on lunch meat. In fact more than alcohol, I'm looking forward to this specific sandwich I haven't had since getting pregnant.
Just to make you feel better--my favorite pregnancy book is The Panic Free Pregnancy by Dr. Michael Broder; it's the most down to earth and non fearmongering guide to the do's and don'ts of pregnancy I have found. The book specifically says alcohol in moderation is totally fine but advises against lunch meat.
My understanding is that Listeria is rare but if you get it it's REALLY bad news for your baby, whereas the effects of alcohol are cumulative depending on how much you have in a sitting, weekly, etc. So one turkey sandwich COULD cause major problems, but one glass of wine won't.
Edit: That's not to say that nobody should eat lunch meat, either; the chances of something bad happening from it are really really tiny. It's just a different risk and different type of risk and you should not feel overly cautious for avoiding it. I found it interesting that this book comes down in favor of alcohol consumption in moderation but he does say generally to avoid lunchmeat if you want to be on the safe side.
First PG not a whiff. This time around I've had a few sips. Maybe twice a month in the third tri I have put a tablespoon or two in a tiny liquor glass and sipped that. I am quite confident that this is not even remotely dangerous as the level of alcohol in my bloodstream is I'm sure, non-detectable.
I do avoid anything that has a risk of listeria or other food-borne illnesses, however because that totally scares me. A sip of wine won't hurt my 7 month gestated baby but a case of listeria could kill her so no thanks.
you do know the chance of getting listeria is like .012% among pregnant women, right?
The incidence of listeriosis in pregnancy is 12 per 100,000, compared with a rate of 0.7 per 100,000 in the general population.2 The CDC monitors cases of listerial infection, and estimates that there were about 800 cases in 2007.7 Cases were spread evenly throughout the United States. Based on known incidences, approximately 200 of those likely occurred during pregnancy.6 The incidence of listeriosis in the newborn is estimated at a rate of 8.6 per 100,000 live births.7
Symptoms and Diagnosis Although severe maternal illness from listeriosis has been reported, it is rare. In most cases, maternal illness is mild and sometimes even asymptomatic. In the largest collection of 222 reported cases, fever was the most common symptom
In contrast to maternal illness, fetal and neonatal infection is severe and frequently fatal, with a case fatality rate of 20% to 30%
I was so repulsed by alcohol (and pretty much everything else) at the beginning of both my pregnancies. I had some beer when I was 41 weeks with ds, and I had some wine with dd.
I had my son in London and the midwife told me I could have a couple drinks a couple times a week and it would be okay. Totally different there.
Oh and I absolutely had sushi, deli meat and feta cheese throughout.
It is worth pointing out that the only thing even minimally risky to the fetus in this list is the deli meat (unless you managed to find unpasteurized feta which I don't think I have ever done). It drives me nuts that women think sushi and soft cheeses are unsafe. Unless you are shopping from a gourmet fancy cheese shop or eating your sushi on the floor of a slaughterhouse you are really OK.
This isn't a knock on anyone in this thread. I just get so mad about how much fearmongering there is out there for pregnant women. I was PARANOID about EVERYTHING when I was pregnant with my first (partially because I was given so much DON'T DO THIS DON'T DO THAT scary information, partially because I had an untreated and undiagnosed anxiety disorder). That's not even to mention the army of mommy martyrs on The Bump who make it their mission to attack and guilt trip anyone who isn't willing to make the "small sacrifice" of only drinking water and eating overcooked everything during pregnancy because if you can't give up alcohol and medium rare steak for 9 months, you're just not fit to be a mother. I won't say it ruined my pregnancy but it sure took away from my enjoyment of it.
And cosmos--I agree with you about the deli meat stuff btw. I don't eat it... but I don't eat lunchmeat not pregnant either. Just not a fan in general.
Post by sewpinkgal on Dec 13, 2012 13:03:36 GMT -5
I didn't. I also switched to decaf coffee for my pregnancy. Not a mommy martyr thing, I just felt more comfortable cutting them out. Then again, I still exercised like a crazy person and for many that is a no-no. I think it's a matter of do what is comfortable to you and eff everyone else.
Oh and I absolutely had sushi COFFEE, deli meat and feta cheese throughout.
that was me
I had 3, 4-oz glasses total in my 3rd tri. I waited until the 3rd of my own volition. My OB was fine with me having a glass or 2 a week into the 2nd tri, but I decided to wait. Then in the 3rd tri, there just wasn't a LOT of drinking opportunites. I got sick and then I got in a car wreck and then I had an emergency-C.
FWIW, I don't think I'll do it. Maybe a little sip here and there to taste something if it seems appealing. Who knows, but 35 weeks I may feel like a glass of wine is just the thing. But I was so put off by the mom-shaming by women who aren't even necessarily moms yet. I guess that's The Bump, though!
At 13 weeks I had a few sips in New Orleans. I am not sure if I will ever go back and I wanted to taste what my husband was enjoying. Once the second trimester began I would periodically have 2-3 oz of wine or a half of a beer.
I didn't at all first pregnancy. This time I've had a half a glass of wine on three occasions, all in the second trimester.
The idea that you need to abstain, and that it's a sacrifice you should make, comes from ignorance. Any doctor with a clue will tell you it's about moderation. Heck, there have even been recent studies that found a correlation between moderate consumption and higher iq in children when compared to children of those who abstained.do I think alcohol leads to higher iq? No, lol. But a glass here or there is hardly a cause for concern.
It's almost always about moderation, whether it be alcohol, caffeine, or the various chemicals in foods we eat.
Post by moonstone523 on Dec 13, 2012 21:14:06 GMT -5
I drank a a half a glass of wine of a few occasions and my baby turned out just fine. And a couple of those times weren't because I'm hard out for my booze, it was at a work event where if I didn't drink, they would all call me out.
I didn't/ wouldn't. I don't care what anyone else does. The only time I have ever side eyed is a friend of mine who got married 6 months pregnant & got drunk at her wedding like 10 beers drunk. Her baby is 100 % normal, hits all miestones ect.