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[iluvmytxrgr]

May 27, 2012 22:53:42 GMT -5 @lemonlover33 said:

I don't care about NIP in uniform. I'm more "concerned" with them using the uniform to make a statement. I'd be side eyeing a woman in uniform modeling a can of formula as well.

This is kind of where I am on the topic. I have no issue with a mother BFing her child in uniform. It's the use of the picture that does bother me. If it had been for personal use, no issue. I just feel like this was used for political and shock value purposes. I see this the same as I would see it if these women were sitting at one of the nurse in protests nursing in uniform.

[ggirl]

Here is the original blog from which the pictures are taken. www.brynjaphotography.com/?p=4377
It says right in it that the Air Force never endorsed these photos. It was done for a breastfeeding support group located on base though.

[letsbeawkward]

May 28, 2012 17:25:36 GMT -5 ggirl said:

Here is the original blog from which the pictures are taken. www.brynjaphotography.com/?p=4377
It says right in it that the Air Force never endorsed these photos. It was done for a breastfeeding support group located on base though.

Thank you for posting this. I kept talking about the original blog that they were posted on but I was having trouble finding it again to post.

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If they didn't want the uniform to make a point then why did they wear them?

[letsbeawkward]

Ok maybe they did want to make a point, maybe it was to encourage other active duty moms to come to their breastfeeding support group, is that so awful?

[letsbeawkward]

When I said earlier that I didn't think they were trying to make a statement, I meant more of the "breastfeeding is the only way" type of statement or the mom feeding her 6 year old on the cover of Time magazine type of statement

[softspot]

May 28, 2012 17:48:43 GMT -5 @lemonlover33 said:

If they didn't want the uniform to make a point then why did they wear them?

Because it's a part of who they are? I've seen BFing dancer moms take pictures in a leotard & point shoes because both define parts of them.

Also, if it was only the singleton mama in the photo would you still be up in arms? Someone pointed out that seeing the cleavage of the twin mama is what's making the picture more shocking.

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May 28, 2012 18:45:42 GMT -5 softspot said:

May 28, 2012 17:48:43 GMT -5 @lemonlover33 said:

If they didn't want the uniform to make a point then why did they wear them?

Because it's a part of who they are? I've seen BFing dancer moms take pictures in a leotard & point shoes because both define parts of them.

Also, if it was only the singleton mama in the photo would you still be up in arms? Someone pointed out that seeing the cleavage of the twin mama is what's making the picture more shocking.

Please refer to my post where I said I would be concerned if a woman in uniform was modeling a can of formula. Obviously, I don't care she is breastfeeding in the uniform or in public (or at the same time). She/they/the photographer is (IMO) using the uniform to make a statement. If this was approved by their COC, I will quit my bitching. Putting a disclaimer is not the same as getting this approved by the public affairs office on base.

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May 28, 2012 18:04:55 GMT -5 letsbeawkward said:

Ok maybe they did want to make a point, maybe it was to encourage other active duty moms to come to their breastfeeding support group, is that so awful?

Where do we draw the line on what military members do in their uniform? Pride walks? Peaceful protests? Gardening?

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May 29, 2012 0:28:45 GMT -5 Stan said:

May 28, 2012 23:12:50 GMT -5 @lemonlover33 said:

Where do we draw the line on what military members do in their uniform? Pride walks? Peaceful protests? Gardening?

How about where the regs draw the line? If Airmen can go to restaurants in cammies, then I say boob restaurants for their babies.

I'm saying what statements they can make in their uniforms. How many times do I have to say I'm okay with NIP in uniform. It's all about making the statement on the blog. Can a GLBT service member go on a pride walk in uniform?

[beachy]

May 29, 2012 0:28:45 GMT -5 Stan said:

May 28, 2012 23:12:50 GMT -5 @lemonlover33 said:

Where do we draw the line on what military members do in their uniform? Pride walks? Peaceful protests? Gardening?

How about where the regs draw the line? If Airmen can go to restaurants in cammies, then I say boob restaurants for their babies.

I'm honestly shocked that this is your stance on it. You are all about uniform regs and know them in and out and have mentioned before that you will say things to people who are out of uniform regs. So regardless of the reasoning behind it, I would think that you would carry that same respect for the regs in this instance as well.

And yes, as I said in the beginning I don't think they should be able to do any publicity at all in their uniform. They say right on this site too that this was for a BFing group on base, but that it wasn't endorsed by the military. Nowhere do they say that it was approved either. And honestly, take these pictures all you want if you do them in your home or somewhere private and keep the pictures for yourself. But the minute they go public and for any type of campaign is the problem.

[ggirl]

I thought they can't do anything for publicity purposes in uniform? I though certain uniforms can't even be allowed in formal pictures and what not? Granted, I don't know regs but I feel like I've heard that before. I could totally be wrong on that.

[ggirl]

May 29, 2012 10:01:45 GMT -5 @ojo said:

May 29, 2012 8:25:15 GMT -5 ggirl said:

I thought they can't do anything for publicity purposes in uniform? I though certain uniforms can't even be allowed in formal pictures and what not? Granted, I don't know regs but I feel like I've heard that before. I could totally be wrong on that.

Yeah, you are totally wrong on that. I've referenced the AFI in this thread if you care to educate yourself though.

Hence my question and prefacing that I don't know. I'm on my phone and at work so didn't want to google search and get wrong info so I asked for more specifics than what I thought I saw in this thread.

[beachy]

May 29, 2012 10:03:24 GMT -5 @ojo said:

May 28, 2012 23:05:03 GMT -5 @lemonlover33 said:

If this was approved by their COC, I will quit my bitching.

"The United States Air Force does not endorse this photo, however permission was given to the individuals to have photographs taken while breastfeeding in their uniform."

Where was the quote? Because this is their quote from the original blog:

"We also want to add that the Air Force has NEVER endorsed these photos. These women just happen to be in the Air Force, in their uniform breastfeeding their babies. We hope that by doing this, we can help those moms who stay-at-home, work full-time, go to school and/or are in the military. Thank you! "

www.brynjaphotography.com/?p=4377

[margotmacomber]

This thread.

I can't believe the sides I am taking.



Silliness.