Why do we tolerate Mike Tyson?

[meggers5]

Thank you! I loved the Hangover but he was the low point in it for me. 
Sadly I don't think it will happen. People overlook all kinds of horrible behaviour if the person id 'talented' enough.
Mike Tyson, Roman Polanski, Chris Brown. 
People will just turn a blind eye because hey, they're good at something, so they must not really be bad people.

[Captain Serious]

I don't tolerate him. I think a large portion of the community does because they don't remember, perhaps because his crime was not televised and splattered all over social media, and his victim was not a media sensation herself.

[karmasabiotch]

It didn't get the attention that it would now since social media and 24hr news outlets would cover it non stop. He shouldn't be accepted.

I also can't watch Morgan Freeman after he started sleeping with his step grand daughter.

[hisno1girl]

Is this just about Mike Tyson because he's 'famous' (more likely infamous), or do you feel like this about every person who ever committed a crime, served their time, and are now trying to live their life?

Or is it because of his crime (rape)?

I'm not being shitty toward you, I'm just asking.

[LLL]

Feb 6, 2013 11:10:33 GMT -5 karmasabiotch said:

It didn't get the attention that it would now since social media and 24hr news outlets would cover it non stop. He shouldn't be accepted.

I also can't watch Morgan Freeman after he started sleeping with his step grand daughter.

www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/morgan_freeman_not_planning_to_marry_Lc6E6fwE9xIguQ1Ju98vIN

[meggers5]

Feb 6, 2013 11:11:33 GMT -5 toledo said:

Look, a good portion of the viewing audience of The Hangover wasn't even born yet when he was convicted. People are stupid and don't know things; this doesn't equal tolerance.

I was 4 when this all happened. I still know about it. And the people who are too young to know about the conviction (and his admitted spousal abuse) are also too young to have followed his boxing career. They think he's cool because they are told he's cool.

[meggers5]

Feb 6, 2013 11:17:16 GMT -5 toledo said:

Feb 6, 2013 11:15:35 GMT -5 meggers5 said:

I was 4 when this all happened. I still know about it. And the people who are too young to know about the conviction (and his admitted spousal abuse) are also too young to have followed his boxing career. They think he's cool because they are told he's cool.

Are we disagreeing with each other?  No.

Lol sorry. No we are not. I get a tad fired up about Tyson. Basically agreeing with what you said. If you're going to idolize someone, make it your business to know everything about them.

[Captain Serious]

Feb 6, 2013 11:17:16 GMT -5 toledo said:

Feb 6, 2013 11:15:35 GMT -5 meggers5 said:

I was 4 when this all happened. I still know about it. And the people who are too young to know about the conviction (and his admitted spousal abuse) are also too young to have followed his boxing career. They think he's cool because they are told he's cool.

Are we disagreeing with each other?  No.

I think you are disagreeing, in a sense, because meggers is saying that someone is telling young watchers that Tyson is cool. Who are these people, and why are they the voice that's heard?

[mamasaurus]

It's a little different. I am no Tyson defender, but for starters, his tattoo is amusing and not a grim reminder of his crime. Also, Tyson barely has a career (even his really awesome pigeon show flopped), whereas Chris Brown is winning awards and using them as opportunities to throw it in everyone's face how not sorry he is about what he did.

[sonrisa]

Do that many people "idolize" him? I thought we was pretty shunned for a number of years. Mark Walberg blinded a guy in a racially motivated beating (according to something one of you posted here last week) and I don't think he's ever been shunned.

[luckyval]

Feb 6, 2013 11:18:54 GMT -5 letsgetweird said:

Feb 6, 2013 11:11:33 GMT -5 toledo said:

Look, a good portion of the viewing audience of The Hangover wasn't even born yet when he was convicted. People are stupid and don't know things; this doesn't equal tolerance.

Well what about the film industry? Why do they support him? He also went back into boxing after he was released from prison.

hisno1girl I don't agree with allowing a convicted rapist celebrity status.

It's about name recognition. It's less relavant to the film industry whether the name has a good or bad associaiton, only that it piques the audience's interest

[meggers5]

Feb 6, 2013 11:22:20 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Do that many people "idolize" him? I thought we was pretty shunned for a number of years. Mark Walberg blinded a guy in a racially motivated beating (according to something one of you posted here last week) and I don't think he's ever been shunned.

Maybe idolize was the wrong word, but I think he's had a resurgence as a bit of a novelty. That means that young people seeing him in the Hangover will think he's cool and funny and not know his history. 

[Deleted]

I shun Mark Whalberg. Fuck that guy and his bad acting and not even good looking face.

[Captain Serious]

Feb 6, 2013 11:11:08 GMT -5 hisno1girl said:

Is this just about Mike Tyson because he's 'famous' (more likely infamous), or do you feel like this about every person who ever committed a crime, served their time, and are now trying to live their life?

Or is it because of his crime (rape)?

I'm not being shitty toward you, I'm just asking.

I think there's a difference in trying to live your life and acquiring celebrity. Celebrity typically comes with all sorts of perks and rewards. If a person chooses to live his life in the spotlight, they should be open to discussion of their life choices and it should be of no surprise to them that people will use them as examples or cautionary tales. I think there is no better cautionary tale to say, "This guy committed (more than one) heinous crime, and so now we no longer consider him a good role model and he has trouble getting desirable jobs/roles in film/TV."