We do drug screens in our office and people are supposed to pee in a cup up to a certain line. They can finish urinating in the toilet, but they can't flush. A surprising number of people poop in the commode. I feel like this is nasty and I would be way to embarrassed to do it barring some type of emergency.
Anyway, WDMMT? Gross or no big deal??
And if you don't think that is gross, what would you think about someone pooping IN the cup (which has happened multiple times as well)?
I wouldn't do it (unless it was an, er... emergency), but it doesn't faze me too much. I would possibly think the person a bit odd, but would try to remember that some people just have to go. Better there than in their pants.
How does one poop in the cup? I hold it right up against my vulva. Even if I did poop, there is zero chance of it going in the cup!
I think it has to be on purpose-- to ruin the drug screen specimen because they think they are going to be positive or they are pissed at having to do it in the first place.
One of the times it happened, a woman was doing an observed drug screen. The nurse noticed she was holding both hands down at her crotch and then she heard a popping sound and pouring. Upon further...investigation...the woman had a bottle of urine shoved up her vagina with foil over the opening. She popped the foil to allow the (presumably cleaner urine than her own) to go into the specimen cup. When she was called on this, she took the second cup and shit in it. People are ridiculous.
How does one poop in the cup? I hold it right up against my vulva. Even if I did poop, there is zero chance of it going in the cup!
I think it has to be on purpose-- to ruin the drug screen specimen because they think they are going to be positive or they are pissed at having to do it in the first place.
One of the times it happened, a woman was doing an observed drug screen. The nurse noticed she was holding both hands down at her crotch and then she heard a popping sound and pouring. Upon further...investigation...the woman had a bottle of urine shoved up her vagina with foil over the opening. She popped the foil to allow the (presumably cleaner urine than her own) to go into the specimen cup. When she was called on this, she took the second cup and shit in it. People are ridiculous.
To be clear, I'm thinking of the (admittedly small) possibility the person has Crohn's disease, or some other condition that means that if they don't go RIGHTNOW, they very well may poop their pants.
I know that in reality, the people doing this are just disrespectful and/or mentally ill. Still doesn't surprise me. Back when I worked at Starbucks, someone would poop in the toilet tank. It took our manager a while to figure out who was doing it. It was not a customer I would have initially suspected...
I know the type of toilet you're talking about, but for when I've seen them it's not outwardly obvious I wouldn't be able to flush afterwards. Do you make it clear that is the case or do these people think they can flush the poop?
I know the type of toilet you're talking about, but for when I've seen them it's not outwardly obvious I wouldn't be able to flush afterwards. Do you make it clear that is the case or do these people think they can flush the poop?
You actually CAN flush our toilets, they just aren't allowed to for the drug screens so, yes, it is made abundantly clear that they are not to flush the toilet.
Back when I worked at Starbucks, someone would poop in the toilet tank. It took our manager a while to figure out who was doing it. It was not a customer I would have initially suspected...
I know the type of toilet you're talking about, but for when I've seen them it's not outwardly obvious I wouldn't be able to flush afterwards. Do you make it clear that is the case or do these people think they can flush the poop?
Last time I had a drug test done, it was a normal toilet and I was just instructed not to flush it or it would not be a valid test. So it would seem these people are well aware that they will not be the ones doing the flushing.
I don't think posters on MM are the type of people that poop to purposely mess up the drug screen...lol.
This. But I have traveled in countries where running water is not the norm and you can't just flush the toilet. It's embarrassing, but I've had someone else go in and pour a bucket of water in the toilet after me while I was busy trying to figure out where said bucket was kept. So, this is my answer to your original question.
Back when I worked at Starbucks, someone would poop in the toilet tank. It took our manager a while to figure out who was doing it. It was not a customer I would have initially suspected...
What?
Why? Why? Why?
Why would someone go through all that effort??
I didn't know then, and I don't know now. He was a bit odd, but I definitely wouldn't have pegged him as our tank-bomber. I had asssumed it was this homeless woman who aggressively panhandled in our parking lot (who we trespassed from the property, but would still sneak in). That's what I get for stereotyping, LOL.
I know the type of toilet you're talking about, but for when I've seen them it's not outwardly obvious I wouldn't be able to flush afterwards. Do you make it clear that is the case or do these people think they can flush the poop?
You actually CAN flush our toilets, they just aren't allowed to for the drug screens so, yes, it is made abundantly clear that they are not to flush the toilet.
I figured. With the drug screens I've seen/done it was made clear.
I'm spending too much time thinking about this. Here's what I'd actually do, if I had to go: pee in the cup. Hand over cup. Tell person taking cup that I still needed to use the bathroom, and ask if it would be OK to flush, given that they already had sample in hand. Obviously they'd know what I was doing, but wouldn't have to see it. Is that an option?
This person wouldn't have had the option for a second chance in our drug screens. Attempting to subvert a test is immediate dismissal and barring from industry for I believe 5 yr minimum (might be 10).
I try not to poop in single stall bathrooms, period. I don't want to leave a stinky room for the person after me....
However, I do know sometimes when you're trying to pee, poop comes out...right? Especially if you're trying to force it? Does it seem possible that maybe some people don't really have to pee, so they have to push really hard, and the poop comes out?
IDK I'm reaching here. Realistically this has never happened to me, but I purposely avoid the 1 stall bathroom near the head of my department's office specifically so that I don't accidentally poop and make it smell.
I'm spending too much time thinking about this. Here's what I'd actually do, if I had to go: pee in the cup. Hand over cup. Tell person taking cup that I still needed to use the bathroom, and ask if it would be OK to flush, given that they already had sample in hand. Obviously they'd know what I was doing, but wouldn't have to see it. Is that an option?
Yes, this would be an option and probably what I would do too. I feel like it is the respectful thing (assuming you have the requisite bowel control).
Normally, I wouldn't consider this a big deal-- it is just that it is always the assholes who do it, so I feel like it isn't a matter of it being an emergent thing or having a loose sphincter or something...the people who do it are just assholes.
I'm spending too much time thinking about this. Here's what I'd actually do, if I had to go: pee in the cup. Hand over cup. Tell person taking cup that I still needed to use the bathroom, and ask if it would be OK to flush, given that they already had sample in hand. Obviously they'd know what I was doing, but wouldn't have to see it. Is that an option?
Yes, this would be an option and probably what I would do too. I feel like it is the respectful thing (assuming you have the requisite bowel control).
Normally, I wouldn't consider this a big deal-- it is just that it is always the assholes who do it, so I feel like it isn't a matter of it being an emergent thing or having a loose sphincter or something...the people who do it are just assholes.
I totally know the type you're talking about. Ick.
How does one poop in the cup? I hold it right up against my vulva. Even if I did poop, there is zero chance of it going in the cup!
I think it has to be on purpose-- to ruin the drug screen specimen because they think they are going to be positive or they are pissed at having to do it in the first place.
One of the times it happened, a woman was doing an observed drug screen. The nurse noticed she was holding both hands down at her crotch and then she heard a popping sound and pouring. Upon further...investigation...the woman had a bottle of urine shoved up her vagina with foil over the opening. She popped the foil to allow the (presumably cleaner urine than her own) to go into the specimen cup. When she was called on this, she took the second cup and shit in it. People are ridiculous.