Someone is working under A's SSN and there is nothing we can do about it unless they try to open a line of credit. Someone (bio?) is claiming Iz on their taxes because she still has her original SSN. According to the SSA, we can't change her # because she knows she's adopted, WTF!?!?
Now I get to alert the credit bureau for each of them and file police reports if/when anything pops up.
My kids are 9 and 5, this shouldn't be happening to them.
On top of all that greatness, our taxes have to be sent to the IRS Fraud Dept to be investigated because of this mess.
We've known about the person working with A's #, a couple years ago I even tracked them down to a farm in Northern CA but because they haven't opened a line of credit I haven't been able to do anything. SSA, the credit bureaus, and the police say they can't do anything unless a crime is committed and so far none has. I think using a SSN that isn't theirs should be considered a crime...
Our taxes got rejected this year and that's how we found out about Iz.
The only that we've been told to clear this up is to have our taxes sent to the fraud dept at the IRS with certain paperwork from the SSA showing that the girls #'s belong to them and that they are our children. The IRS will audit the other peoples taxes too and request the same SSA paperwork, they shouldn't be able to provide it and it will be known that they are committing a crime. I don't think the person using A's # files taxes and that's why they've been able to use it for so long.
Post by rikkiandjulie on Feb 20, 2013 20:14:31 GMT -5
My mom used my SSN to open an electric account and a phone bill when I was five. They are still deliquinet on my report. They companies I contact about removing it say that those files were purged 15-17 years ago, well of course they have been! The credit bureau is less than helpful
You can definitely change Iz's SSN...its often recommended for situations exactly like this. I'm not sure if there is any time limitation after adoption, but it has nothing to do with her knowing she's adopted or not...
Post by awkwardpenguin on Feb 21, 2013 10:13:34 GMT -5
I'm sorry you are getting such a run around. Like CT said, you should be able to change Iz's. I find the people on the phone at the SSA useless, but have had better luck in person.
It's crazy they can't do anything about A's. Filling out a fraudulent I-9 *IS* a crime. But not one that gets punished very often.
You can definitely change Iz's SSN...its often recommended for situations exactly like this. I'm not sure if there is any time limitation after adoption, but it has nothing to do with her knowing she's adopted or not...
We went to the SSA office yesterday and explained what was happening, I got asked a series of questions, one of which was "does she know she's adopted" before being told that her knowledge of her adoption disqualified her from getting a new SSN.
I did some research last night and the agent was right, she can't get a new SSN.
Yeah... Should I not tell my 5 year old DD who looks different from us that she's adopted? Bio obviously has her SSN and can locate us, I'm not very comfortable with a bipolar schizophrenic bio parent possibly showing up one day (far fetched but possible).
Post by twomoms2twins on Feb 21, 2013 14:06:15 GMT -5
Oh Damn ... makes no sense - I know this is bad but cant you go back and LIE. I am all about integrity but because I chose integrity over lying i was passed over for tons of LE jobs that i was over qualified for. Lesson learned dont be truthful/forthcoming and screw integrity. sorry I will get off my soap box.
For the person using A# if you found them you can contact their employment and try to strong hold them that way - by saying you are are now knowingly employing a person who is falsifying documents - which for a farm could be a big deal. I would also do a call to action and get media involved on that one see if any local news stations will help do the leg work. ITS JUST NOT RIGHT.
actually - perhaps it all needs some media attention - SSA rule about #'s is lame about adoptive child. Why would that have this huge loophole.
I am sorry and hope this comes to a speedy end and closure.
Crazy shit happens to me like this ... Some chick in Sacramento with a black truck ( i had black jeep) with same name diff spelling and one day diff b-day than mine got a ticket and it was not paid and the 3 years later I got it all cleared it was a mess and some lady in ALABAMA also uses my SS# but she had also not committed fraud so I think she just uses for work or something.
That's majorly messed up that they won't deal with these issues. I think there's a different channel to go through to change the SS # due to fraud though, maybe that could apply to Iz rather than the adoption change?
Yeah, I just googled it.... it looks like you can change a number based on Id theft if you can prove you've tried unsuccessfully other methods to fix the problem and that there is an ongoing harm. I think you could probably make a good case for Iz. Probably harder for A (because there's no current "harm"), but I'd keep fighting this if I were you so you can get it resolved before either is old enough to start building credit.