Swifty vs Fey and Poehler

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Because you know I hate some Taylor Swift.

Tina Fey, Amy Poehler Respond to Taylor Swift's 'Special Place in Hell' Comment

By LAUREN EFFRON (@leffron831)

March 6, 2013

As Tina Fey and Amy Poehler tell it, Taylor Swift just can't take a joke.

The two comediennes received waves of laughter from the audience when they hosted the Golden Globes in January. Fey got a particularly huge response when she singled out the 23-year-old country music star, saying, "You stay away from Michael J. Fox's son," who served as this year's Mr. Golden Globe -- an award traditionally given to the son of a celebrity who assists at the annual show.

"Or go for it," Poehler jabbed.

"No, you need some 'me' time," Fey said to more applause.

While the 20 million people who tuned into watch the Golden Globes might have thought the joke was funny, as it turns out, Swift was not laughing.

The seven-time Grammy winner made headlines Tuesday when she told Vanity Fair in an interview for the upcoming April issue that she had some words of her own for the two funny ladies.

In talking about mean girls in general and in response to when Fey and Poehler mocked her at the Golden Globes, Swift told the magazine, "You know, Katie Couric is one of my favorite people because she said to me she had heard a quote that she loved, that said, 'There's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.'"

The quote is actually a Madeleine Albright original. The former secretary of state said it during a 2006 keynote speech at a WNBA All-Decade team "Celebrating Inspiration" luncheon in New York City.

READ: Taylor Swift Insists She Is Not a Clingy, Desperate Girlfriend

Both Fey and Poehler are now saying they were surprised Swift was upset by the joke and that they were just kidding.

Speaking to "Entertainment Tonight" while on the red carpet at the New York City premiere of her new movie, "Admission," on Tuesday night, Fey responded to Swift's comments.

"If anyone was going to get mad at us, I thought it would be James Cameron," Fey, 42, told ET. "I did not see that one coming. It was a joke. It was a lighthearted joke."

The "James Cameron" jab refers to another joke the duo told during their opening monologue at the Golden Globes in which Poehler turned to "Zero Dark Thirty" director Kathryn Bigelow and said: "I haven't really been following the controversy over 'Zero Dark Thirty,' but when it comes to torture, I trust the lady who spent three years married to James Cameron" -- a joke that also received thunderous applause.

When reached for comment, Poehler, 41, told the Hollywood Reporter, "Aw, I feel bad if she was upset. I am a feminist, and she is a young and talented girl. That being said, I do agree I am going to hell. But for other reasons. Mostly boring tax stuff."

Representatives for Fey and Poehler declined to comment to ABC News.

For the record, Michael J. Fox doesn't want Swift dating his 23-year-old son Sam anyway.

At a book party for Ann Leary's "The Good House," the "Back to the Future" actor reportedly told Vulture magazine, "No, No... just back off," when asked if he would approve of the couple dating.

"I don't keep up with it all. But Taylor Swift writes songs about everybody she goes out with, right? What a way to build a career," the magazine reported Fox said.

Swift, who is Vanity Fair's cover girl for the new issue, has earned a reputation for writing songs about her break-ups and famous ex-boyfriends. Over the years, she has been linked romantically with actor Jake Gyllenhaal, singer-songwriter John Mayer, Conor Kennedy, the late President John F. Kennedy's nephew, and most recently with One Direction heartthrob Harry Styles -- the couple split after spending New Years together.

ABC News Radio contributed to this report

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[pixy0stix]

Swift doesn't have a boyfriend to diss and so hasn't been in the news, so she had to do SOMETHING.

I'm really starting to dislike her.

[brookles]

Tangling with Amy and Tina is a bad idea, because they'll always win.

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As I told gpointe earlier this week, if you're smart you start reassessing your life when Amy Poehler and Tina Fey tell the world you are a hot mess. You definitely don't accuse them of being woman haters.

I want us all to stop and remember for a moment that Adele is only a year older than Swifty.

Let that sink in.

And Miley Cyrus is three years younger than Swifty.

How is it that Taylor Swift comes off the baby in this grouping? Maybe Billy Ray didn't do so bad after all.

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But she didn't complain when Carrie Underwood and Brad Paisely took a jab at her love life for the CMAs (it was a pretty funny line about how the Kennedys were happy to trade Arnold for Taylor)

[EllieArroway]

Mar 8, 2013 11:50:27 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

I want us all to stop and remember for a moment that Adele is only a year older than Swifty.

Let that sink in.

Holy crap.

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Mar 8, 2013 11:52:29 GMT -5 EllieArroway said:

Mar 8, 2013 11:50:27 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

I want us all to stop and remember for a moment that Adele is only a year older than Swifty.

Let that sink in.

Holy crap.

Swifty seems so   young.

Apparently she and Hayden Pantierre (Nashville) are work out buddies now.

[meshaliuknits]

"I
don't keep up with it all. But Taylor Swift writes songs about
everybody she goes out with, right? What a way to build a career," the magazine reported Fox said.


That is literally the only thing I knew about Taylor Swift prior to her getting pissy with Tina Fey and Amy Pohler.

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Taylor Swift's music is a total guilty pleasure for me, but girl seriously need to GTFO herself. The joke was funny. I loved the "me" time comment.

Also, don't fuck with Tina and Amy. You will not win.

[PinkSquirrel]

Mar 8, 2013 11:50:27 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

I want us all to stop and remember for a moment that Adele is only a year older than Swifty.

Let that sink in.

 
Whoa.  Then again, there are few people who are less mature than Swifty. 

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This didn't seem mean at all--actually something most older women would say to women that age.

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I don't have a problem with writing songs about her relationships - I mean hell, we all know I adore Fleetwood Mac and Rumours is basically just one break up song after another. (okay not basically, it is. and it was such a trainwreck when Stevie and Taylor performed together.) But her songs aren't especially GOOD. They all sound so much alike - so it makes sense why she is popular, because if you like one song you'll probably like them all. And I do belt out "I knew you were trouble when you walked in!!!!" every.damn.time I hear it.

And I think that is part of her problem - she seems so young because her songwriting and singing has not matured in, what, 5 years? 7 years? It all sounds the same.

And finally, the Tina/Amy joke was funny, and true. Taylor had a golden opportunity here to laugh at herself, show she has a sense of humor, and move on. But she failed.

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Andplusalso, Stevie Nicks gave an interview once and was asked about Britney spears (pre breakdown), and she said that her advice would be for Britney to put some clothes on, take some time off, and come back with some really good, well-written music. I thought THAT was mean, but Stevie wasn't hosting an awards show haha.

[Velar Fricative]

If the joke wasn't based on the truth, no one would have laughed. Amy and Tina 1, Taylor 0.

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Mar 8, 2013 12:46:31 GMT -5 @mrsbecky07 said:

I don't have a problem with writing songs about her relationships - I mean hell, we all know I adore Fleetwood Mac and Rumours is basically just one break up song after another. (okay not basically, it is. and it was such a trainwreck when Stevie and Taylor performed together.) But her songs aren't especially GOOD. They all sound so much alike - so it makes sense why she is popular, because if you like one song you'll probably like them all. And I do belt out "I knew you were trouble when you walked in!!!!" every.damn.time I hear it.

And I think that is part of her problem - she seems so young because her songwriting and singing has not matured in, what, 5 years? 7 years? It all sounds the same.

And finally, the Tina/Amy joke was funny, and true. Taylor had a golden opportunity here to laugh at herself, show she has a sense of humor, and move on. But she failed.

I actually find Taylor Swift's songs to be rather anti feminist themselves. She paints herself as a young, silly innocent who takes no responsibility for her actions or thoughts in the relationship. There are even more than a few songs that suggest the women these men date before or after her are vapid morons who either don't deserve the dude because Taylor is clearly a better choice or deserve to be with a douchebag because they are stupid sluts who sleep their way to fame.

So really, let's look at the body of work between these three ladies. Tell me whose work embodies the picture of talented, well adjusted, smart, responsible women and who is stuck in self involved 15 year old mode where boys who don't like you are stupid and the girls they like instead must be stuck up bitches mere because they have the attention of the boy you like.

I could be here all day. She unnerves me.

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Mar 8, 2013 13:01:04 GMT -5 pennypenny said:

Isn't a 23-year-old a little old for Swifty's liking. She likes em still in HS, right?

She was dating older ones for quite a while but rather than figuring out she needed to be in a more equal relationship, she went to the other side of the spectrum and is seemingly trying to date boys she can control. But that isn't working so who knows what she's gonna do.

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I used to really like Taylor Swift. I thought it was fabulous that she wrote & produced her own songs, seemed relatively smart, stable & grounded.

Now? I find her annoying. Like her 15 minutes are really, really up but she keeps dragging them out.

If she honestly wants to be taken seriously as a musician (Can i call her that?) she does need to get out of the public eye and cool down.

[4speedy]

I think TS is brilliant. She has cultivated this whole, "I'm just searching for love and everyone is against me" persona. The tweeners LOVE that shit. I know, I have a DD who eats that stuff up.

TS has a a huge publicity machine in place and they could shut down all these stupid quotes if they wanted to. And yet she keeps yapping at the press about how misunderstood she is and how girls are so mean to her. And the young girls wo feel she is one of them just keep flocking to the mall to buy the records. Brilliant.

[Velar Fricative]

Mar 8, 2013 12:20:26 GMT -5 @soudesafinado said:

Kanye should cut her off again

I actually really hate him for propelling her into superstardom. Thanks for nothing, Kanye.

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Mar 8, 2013 13:43:00 GMT -5 4speedy said:

I think TS is brilliant. She has cultivated this whole, "I'm just searching for love and everyone is against me" persona. The tweeners LOVE that shit. I know, I have a DD who eats that stuff up.

TS has a a huge publicity machine in place and they could shut down all these stupid quotes if they wanted to. And yet she keeps yapping at the press about how misunderstood she is and how girls are so mean to her. And the young girls wo feel she is one of them just keep flocking to the mall to buy the records. Brilliant.

Pinky can listen to swifty but I would lock her up for life if I found out she was hero worshiping such a petty, self involved person.

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She sucks.

Girl you are not 17 anymore. Grow the fuck up and start writing some big girl songs. Or, actually, just go away.

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Mar 8, 2013 13:05:13 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

So really, let's look at the body of work between these three ladies. Tell me whose work embodies the picture of talented, well adjusted, smart, responsible women and who is stuck in self involved 15 year old mode where boys who don't like you are stupid and the girls they like instead must be stuck up bitches mere because they have the attention of the boy you like.

I could be here all day. She unnerves me.

YES.  I agree.  I often forget that she ISN'T 15.  That's not a good thing.  

[taratru]

You'd think she'd be more pissed at Michael J Fox for his rip on how she built her career.

I listen to her music when I run because it's got a great pop beat. She sucks, though.

[Velar Fricative]

I just had to come back in here and re-read that Adele is only a year older than Taylor. I believe it, but it's still shocking and I need to re-read that a few more times to let it sink in.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

The issue for me is that yes, while everyone has written songs about past loved ones and we know it - from Justin Timberlake writing about Britney to Pink writing about her husband to Amy Lee writing about that guy from Seether - the problem is that she seems to literally have learned NOTHING in 7 years. Her relationships all seem to last roughly 3 months and her songs all paint her as a victim somehow. Jesus, write a song about a fucking toaster or something. Stop it with the poor, pitiful me thing. Or at least TRY dating somoene long enough to know what they look like in a coat AND swimming trunks. And then tell me what happened in your relationship.

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lyssbobiss, Command, B613 and all of them without fail begin with the notion that she knew they were the one from the jump and it's all his fault for wrecking it. That's why I can't take the notion that Jake Gyllenhaal was a pussy for breaking up with her. If any young, starry eyed girl is telling you a month in that you're perfect for each other, it's totally meant to be, and she knows your love is forever, come on, you're booking it. I don't care who you are.

[Velar Fricative]

And Taylor's songs suck anyway. I mean, Alanis couldn't stop writing about that jerk Uncle Joey from Full House but her songs are fucking awesome.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

And the thing about this whole "feud" between Swift and Fey/Poehler is that they didn't say anything that was mean. People write far meaner things about her in song reviews all the damn time. Does she just not read anything that isn't Tiger Beat? Because I'm sure her albumbs have been eviscerated in any actual musical critiquing format. What they said? It isn't anti-feminist. What Taylor Swift does is anti-feminist. If anything, they were suggesting that she be less needy. Which isn't anti-women at all.

[glo]

Adele has always been a more mature singer. Not to mention she's better at it. I'll take "Chasing Pavements" any day.

[NitaX]

Mar 8, 2013 13:56:29 GMT -5 taratru said:

You'd think she'd be more pissed at Michael J Fox for his rip on how she built her career.

 Remember, she was mad at him for saying that. I think we discussed on here before. 

Team HAB.