Teen Mom is back tonight!

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

I know I'm not alone on this trainwreck! Who's with me?
I expect essays from all of you tomorrow. No more Fat Tuesday threads. They make me hungry. Let's talk about drug addicts instead!

[dev22]

SOOOOOOOOOOOO with you.

This is the final season with the original girls too. ***tears***

[JLN]

I forgot to set my DVR! I'm excited for this trainwreck.

[basilosaurus]

I presume they filmed before Amber went to jail?

[verypunny]

I can't wait. This is the last season, no?

[dev22]

Jun 12, 2012 19:10:42 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

I presume they filmed before Amber went to jail?

Probably, but I hope not. I want to see her ass get dragged off to jail.

[llama]

I am so excited! Total guilty pleasure.

[verypunny]

these poor girls are going to need to get real jobs soon! they are in for a rude awakening.

[dev22]

Jun 12, 2012 20:03:07 GMT -5 @publius said:

Wait, Amber went to jail? I am completely out of touch with reality. What happened there?

Drugs, violation of parole, more drugs, failed rehab, then more drugs.

[dev22]

Jun 12, 2012 20:04:40 GMT -5 @publius said:

Does Gary have custody of Leah?

I am pretty sure, yeah.

[runforrest]

I am extremely excited and the crazy part of me wants Macy and Ryan to end up together.

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Jun 12, 2012 20:37:39 GMT -5 runforrest said:

I am extremely excited and the crazy part of me wants Macy and Ryan to end up together.

I really love Maci and Ryan, I hate Kyle.

[eclaires]

So I'm watching - can I post here?

Can I please punch Catelynn in her face? "we gave our baby up for adoption so we could finish school!!!!"

Bitch, PLEASE. You just finished high school. I'm pretty sure Maci and Farrah finished high school in the first season. WITH keeping their kids.

Don't get me wrong, I think they absolutely made the right choice. But please do not pat yourself on the back for taking 100 years to finish high school and act like it is some ringing endorsement for adoption.

I know, I'm horrible. But I really dislike Catelynn and Tyler. I have a cold, black heart.

[runforrest]

Glad I'm not the only one on the Maci/Ryan train.

And I also get annoyed by Catelyn and Tyler....and Farrah...and Amber....and Farrah's mom. Why do they all insist on the baby talk?? Gah.

[basilosaurus]

eclaires, I don't particularly care for C&T, either, but to be fair Macy and Farrah actually had functional supportive families. Now, I haven't watched since a couple episodes of season 1, but didn't both of their families babysit so they could go to school?

[eclaires]

Oh yeah, totally. I think they definitely did.

I'm just saying they didn't have a kid to watch, and still didn't finish school until forever. And I think adoption was the right choice. I just think connecting the two, in their case, was dumb. Adoption didn't help them finish school, really, b/c it took them forfuckingever even w/out a kid. I mean, I guess it helped b/c they may never have finished at all, but it just seemed really smug when she said it. And I don't think she has anything to be smug about. I am not impressed by her finishing school (w/out a kid) 3 years later than everyone else who had kids, even if they had help to do it.

I'm rambling, but even though adoption probably helped her finish, it still took a long ass time, long past when they no longer had a child to take care of and just the way she said it - all kind of smug and self-satisifed annoyed me.

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I cannot stand the baby talk! Farrah's mom does it so much she just talks like that all the damn time! Wtf, Sophia sldoesnt even talk like that!

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Jun 12, 2012 20:37:39 GMT -5 runforrest said:

I am extremely excited and the crazy part of me wants Macy and Ryan to end up together.

Meh. I just don't see that really working out.

To be fair, she is the most normal though.

[ashbridemd]

I've always really disliked C&T....Their shrine to Carly is just creepy. At one point, they had a giant tapestry of her face hanging on their wall.....dafuq?

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

Yeah, I iam not the biggest Catelynn and Tyler fan either. They did make the right choice but let's not act like they are heroes for finishing high school. Yeah, must've been a tough six years. I hate that they're continually featured on the show because it's certainly not helping them move on and get their own lives.
I hate Kyle. I hate Ryan. I want Maci to meet a guy who is as verbal as she is. Ryan won't quit yawning and I can't understand a damn word Kyle says and I'm not convinced he didn't have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
Farrah's mom drives me batty. I think she thinks she screwed Farrah up and wanted to keep Sophia as a second chance to be a good mom. She's very very bizarre. That whole family has the strangest dynamics I've ever seen.
Amber and Gary. Lord. Where do I even begin? Ok, Amber. Let's all just play pretend that you're going to rehab for "anger." But you were worried about getting to keep your meds. Talk about a pink elephant in the room. Just own up to it and tell me what drugs you're taking because I'd like to lose a bunch of weight too. Poor, Poor Leah Leann.

[MrsDL]

Jun 12, 2012 21:27:39 GMT -5 eclaires said:

So I'm watching - can I post here?

Can I please punch Catelynn in her face? "we gave our baby up for adoption so we could finish school!!!!"

Bitch, PLEASE. You just finished high school. I'm pretty sure Maci and Farrah finished high school in the first season. WITH keeping their kids.

Don't get me wrong, I think they absolutely made the right choice. But please do not pat yourself on the back for taking 100 years to finish high school and act like it is some ringing endorsement for adoption.

I know, I'm horrible. But I really dislike Catelynn and Tyler. I have a cold, black heart.

True - but you can't compare Farrah and Maci to Catelynn - they have reasonably normal parents and some sort of support system. I personally think they set more of an example in terms of overcoming their absolutely shitty upbringings to at least get a HS diploma rather than setting an example for adoption.

[eclaires]

Jun 13, 2012 7:42:17 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

Jun 12, 2012 21:27:39 GMT -5 eclaires said:

So I'm watching - can I post here?

Can I please punch Catelynn in her face? "we gave our baby up for adoption so we could finish school!!!!"

Bitch, PLEASE. You just finished high school. I'm pretty sure Maci and Farrah finished high school in the first season. WITH keeping their kids.

Don't get me wrong, I think they absolutely made the right choice. But please do not pat yourself on the back for taking 100 years to finish high school and act like it is some ringing endorsement for adoption.

I know, I'm horrible. But I really dislike Catelynn and Tyler. I have a cold, black heart.

True - but you can't compare Farrah and Maci to Catelynn - they have reasonably normal parents and some sort of support system. I personally think they set more of an example in terms of overcoming their absolutely shitty upbringings to at least get a HS diploma rather than setting an example for adoption.

See I think this is valid. And I would say that wouldn't bother me (even though it took a long time) if they said that. It was really the stupid, smug way they said it and tying it to adoption that rubbed me the wrong way.

And ITA w/ whoever said they don't want them on the show b/c it makes it harder for them to move on. It makes them focus on this time in their lives instead of figuring out their next step - it totally drew the process out. I'm glad this is the last season, mostly for them.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

One thing Tyler said last night that stood out to me was that the process is sort of ongoing acceptance. Like Carly's second birthday for them is about reliving the day she was born, planning the visit to see her, and then getting back to their lives. It struck me as really mature for him to acknowledge that. I just wish they would quit calling her their daughter. She really isn't theirs. That rubs me the wrong way, mostly because I am adopted and when my bio mom found me she kept calling me her daughter and I'm all "Lady, I don't know you."

[eclaires]

Jun 13, 2012 8:47:12 GMT -5 lyssbobiss, Command, B613 said:

One thing Tyler said last night that stood out to me was that the process is sort of ongoing acceptance. Like Carly's second birthday for them is about reliving the day she was born, planning the visit to see her, and then getting back to their lives. It struck me as really mature for him to acknowledge that. I just wish they would quit calling her their daughter. She really isn't theirs. That rubs me the wrong way, mostly because I am adopted and when my bio mom found me she kept calling me her daughter and I'm all "Lady, I don't know you."

YES.

Like I get it...but at the same time, just no. I was adopted by my stepfather when I was 10, and if my sperm donor referred to me as his daughter, I'd probably junk punch him.

[runforrest]

Jun 13, 2012 1:34:08 GMT -5 @lauriergirl28 said:

Jun 12, 2012 20:37:39 GMT -5 runforrest said:

I am extremely excited and the crazy part of me wants Macy and Ryan to end up together.

Meh. I just don't see that really working out.

To be fair, she is the most normal though.

Oh, I agree it probably wouldn't work out - I just think that they both still have feelings for each other. Plus, he is cute.

And yeah, she is the most normal for sure.

I wish I could feel bad for Amber, though - I get that she is an addict, but I can.not.stand.her. She is fake, and always the victim, and just a mean, awful person.

[dev22]

Jun 13, 2012 8:49:58 GMT -5 eclaires said:

Jun 13, 2012 8:47:12 GMT -5 lyssbobiss, Command, B613 said:

One thing Tyler said last night that stood out to me was that the process is sort of ongoing acceptance. Like Carly's second birthday for them is about reliving the day she was born, planning the visit to see her, and then getting back to their lives. It struck me as really mature for him to acknowledge that. I just wish they would quit calling her their daughter. She really isn't theirs. That rubs me the wrong way, mostly because I am adopted and when my bio mom found me she kept calling me her daughter and I'm all "Lady, I don't know you."

YES.

Like I get it...but at the same time, just no. I was adopted by my stepfather when I was 10, and if my sperm donor referred to me as his daughter, I'd probably junk punch him.

What are they supposed to call her? She IS their daughter, and Caitlynn is a Mom. I think it would be weird if they didn't call her their daughter. They know that Carly knows them as Caitlynn and Tyler, and that is how they refer to themselves when they speak to her. I don't know - the attitude that they shouldn't refer to her as their daughter REALLY rubs me the wrong way.

I like C&T, simply for the fact that they were cognizant enough to realize that they didn't have a good environment for a child. They have done stupid stuff, but they are still very young. They will do stupid stuff.

I do agree that being on the show has probably made them focus on the adoption more than is good for their mental health, but open adoptions like theirs, in general, are supposed to be a good thing for both the kids and the bioparents.So I do hope that aspect of their lives gets to continue after the show stops.

[dev22]

I do have a possible falmful though - Farrah going on and on about her dead babydaddy drives me nuts. Probably since I watched Farrah's first episode of 16 & Pregnant a few nights ago (wut?) and all she can talk about is what an asshole he is and how he was controlling, abusive and an overall asshole. I mean, she wasn't even going to tell him she was pregnant. It seems like she built the relationship up in her head to be something it wasn't.

I get being sad that Sophia will never meet her Dad. Totally makes sense. But the incessant weeping is just WEIRD.

[lolzlala]

Jun 13, 2012 7:23:22 GMT -5 lyssbobiss, Command, B613 said:

Yeah, I iam not the biggest Catelynn and Tyler fan either. They did make the right choice but let's not act like they are heroes for finishing high school. Yeah, must've been a tough six years. I hate that they're continually featured on the show because it's certainly not helping them move on and get their own lives.
I hate Kyle. I hate Ryan. I want Maci to meet a guy who is as verbal as she is. Ryan won't quit yawning and I can't understand a damn word Kyle says and I'm not convinced he didn't have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
Farrah's mom drives me batty. I think she thinks she screwed Farrah up and wanted to keep Sophia as a second chance to be a good mom. She's very very bizarre. That whole family has the strangest dynamics I've ever seen.
Amber and Gary. Lord. Where do I even begin? Ok, Amber. Let's all just play pretend that you're going to rehab for "anger." But you were worried about getting to keep your meds. Talk about a pink elephant in the room. Just own up to it and tell me what drugs you're taking because I'd like to lose a bunch of weight too. Poor, Poor Leah Leann.

OMG the face, this is the first thing I noticed when he popped up on the show. I feel vindicated and less like a bitch for throwing that idea out there while watching it with my family last season. LOL

Also, just want to say I heart the crazy that is this show, and am totally sad ya'll get to watch it before me. I get to stake out hulu for it since I don't have cable.

[jamesonontherocks]

Farrah - what a little bitch. God help my child if she turns out like that. She is so mean to her step father who really should make her do things for herself. But, her mom is a little a manipulative twat too. "She was sad" Well of course she was fucking sad, you told a 2 year old she's never going to see you again. And look at how that kid spoke to them during lunch.

Amber - Enough said. Jail for 5 years isn ot long enough for her crazy ass.

Maci - What's up with her? She was a royal bitch, and normally she's my favorite. The her and Ryan thing is getting old though. what's up with the Paci?

Caitlyn/Tyler - I agree with PP that these visits needs seem to do more harm than good for them. It seems like the adopitive parents didn't want to be in the episode or Carly to be in the episode - the photo montage whenever they were meeting made me feel that way. But its too bad - Tyler seems like he would have made a decent parent once hes older.

[amyb2332]

Jun 14, 2012 6:59:56 GMT -5 jamesonontherocks said:

Farrah - what a little bitch. God help my child if she turns out like that. She is so mean to her step father who really should make her do things for herself. But, her mom is a little a manipulative twat too. "She was sad" Well of course she was fucking sad, you told a 2 year old she's never going to see you again. And look at how that kid spoke to them during lunch.

Farrah is awful. Those scenes were really hard to watch. But also, I don't think that is her stepdad. I think that is her biological father. I don't think this is the best source but everything I've read says that is bio dad not step dad.

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