I have an abortion question

[Deleted]

This banning abortions after 20 weeks that is currently in the house is pissing me off.

Do these men really think women just decide to have an abortion after 20 weeks for giggles? because they couldn't find the time to do it sooner? 

My question is how many abortions after 20 weeks are not because of some genetic abnormality or the health of the mother (and by health of the mother I'm willing to look only at physical health)?

[iammalcolmx]

Jun 18, 2013 11:13:08 GMT -5 @septimus said:

Do these men really think women just decide to have an abortion after 20 weeks for giggles? because they couldn't find the time to do it sooner?

They sure do.

[pamela]

No, they really believe that no matter why it's being done, that it's murdering a life.

[ESF]

Job creation and the deficit.

Wait, what was the question?

[katietornado]

Don't worry. It's not 20 weeks. It's 20 months.

[meshaliuknits]

Jun 18, 2013 11:34:36 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Don't worry. It's not 20 weeks. It's 20 months.

LOL. Was that CNN?

Sent from my EVO

[Deleted]

Jun 18, 2013 11:34:36 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Don't worry. It's not 20 weeks. It's 20 months.

So it is the elephant fetus protection act? 

[NitaX]

Jun 18, 2013 11:37:02 GMT -5 @septimus said:

Jun 18, 2013 11:34:36 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Don't worry. It's not 20 weeks. It's 20 months.

So it is the elephant fetus protection act? 

/dead

[pixy0stix]

Protect the elephants!

[ringstrue]

Doesn't answer for medical need but this is what the Wikipedia says for all:

Canada: During the year 2003, 7.2% of induced abortions were performed between 13 and 16 weeks, 2.5% between 17 and 20 weeks, and 0.7% over 20 weeks. This sample included procedures carried out in hospitals and clinics.[6]

England and Wales: In 2005, 9% of abortions occurred between 13 and 19 weeks, while 1% occurred at or over 20 weeks.[7]

New Zealand: In 2003, 2.03% of induced abortions were done between weeks 16 and 19, and 0.56% were done over 20 weeks.[8]

Norway: In 2005, 2.28% of induced abortions were performed between 13 and 16 weeks, 1.24% of abortions between 17 and 20 weeks, and 0.20% over 21 weeks.[9] Between February 15, 2010 and December 1, 2011, a total number of ten abortions were performed between 22 to 24 weeks. These have been declared illegal by The Norwegian Directorate of Health.[10]

Scotland: In 2005, 6.1% of abortions were done between 14 and 17 weeks, while 1.6% were performed over 18 weeks.[11]

Sweden: In 2005, 5.6% of abortions were carried out between 12 and 17 weeks, and 0.8% at or greater than 18 weeks.[12]

United States: In 2003, from data collected in those areas that sufficiently reported gestational age, it was found that 6.2% of abortions were conducted between 13 and 15 weeks, 4.2% between 16 and 20 weeks, and 1.4% at or after 21 weeks.[13] Because the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's annual study on abortion statistics does not calculate the exact gestational age for abortions performed past the 20th week, there are no precise data for the number of abortions performed after viability.[13] In 1997, the Guttmacher Institute estimated the number of abortions in the U.S. past 24 weeks to be 0.08%, or approximately 1,032 per year.[14]





oh and wiki answers says: According to Guttmacher Institute is out of 820,151 legal induced abortions in the US (in 2005) 3.5% was done between week 16-20 and 1.1% after week 21. The abortions that are done for the mothers or baby's health are included in those numbers.

[Velar Fricative]

Do elephants masturbate in the womb?

[overture]

My memory is a little foggy on this, but I remember a professor saying there were only two physicians in the nation who performed abortions after 20 weeks for non-medical reasons. And one of them was George Tiller. So yeah - there's one.

[ttt]

Jun 18, 2013 11:34:36 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Don't worry. It's not 20 weeks. It's 20 months.

Well, now that I do agree with.

[ringstrue]

88% of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, 2006.


www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

[ijack]

I actually remember someone on the nest who had one after 20w because she didn't find out she was pg until really late.

[Velar Fricative]

Jun 18, 2013 11:47:11 GMT -5 overture said:

My memory is a little foggy on this, but I remember a professor saying there were only two physicians in the nation who performed abortions after 20 weeks for non-medical reasons. And one of them was George Tiller. So yeah - there's one.

And the one who's alive must have heavier security than Obama.

[OscarQ]

Jun 18, 2013 11:20:01 GMT -5 pamela said:

No, they really believe that no matter why it's being done, that it's murdering a life.

While I don't agree with this sentiment (yes, it is a living being, it can't sustain itself blah blah blah), this isn't the question. If this were the question they'd legislate against all abortions. Period. No life of the mother exceptions. No exceptions. All abortion banned. But they can't do that so these little weasels just try to chip away at it.

I get the game. I do. I just think it's a sham and if they have such strong convictions, stand by them 100%. This 20 week limit implies they're fine with abortions before that point. Which, of course, they're not. They'll just keep pushing this back. And back. And back.

[sushi]

You're asking the wrong question. Is this a way they can control women, score some political points, manipulate a current news story to further their aims, and avoid addressing jobs jobs jobs? The answer is yes to all.

They know damn well that 20 weeks would make it too late for most people facing genetic and physical anomalies, and that's the point. Because downs babies are loving.

[wise_rita]

Jun 18, 2013 12:09:46 GMT -5 ijack said:

I actually remember someone on the nest who had one after 20w because she didn't find out she was pg until really late.

She's over here, too.

[Deleted]

So how would this ban impact states like Oregon where you're allowed to have second trimester abortions?

I think this is such bs. You shouldn't need anyone's permission to terminate a pregnancy. No conditions, no restrictions.

[Deleted]

Jun 19, 2013 10:09:39 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Jun 19, 2013 7:24:22 GMT -5 @lcap said:

So how would this ban impact states like Oregon where you're allowed to have second trimester abortions?

I think this is such bs. You shouldn't need anyone's permission to terminate a pregnancy. No conditions, no restrictions.

This ban would override Oregon's state laws. It would override all states' laws.  Because the GOP believes in Federalism.  Unless the law has to do with anything other than abortion.  Then they support state's rights.  

Yeah that's what I thought. Bummer.

[PinkSquirrel]

Jun 18, 2013 11:13:08 GMT -5 @septimus said:

This banning abortions after 20 weeks that is currently in the house is pissing me off.

Do these men really think women just decide to have an abortion after 20 weeks for giggles? because they couldn't find the time to do it sooner? 

My question is how many abortions after 20 weeks are not because of some genetic abnormality or the health of the mother (and by health of the mother I'm willing to look only at physical health)?

The other common instances for post 20 weeks are because they don't know how to pay for it and have to save up/it takes them that long to find an abortion fund and young kids who have been molested often tend to have abortions later because it takes longer for others to find out