October 2013 has anti-vaxxers

[redheadbaker]

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[Kristinmo]

I will never understand declining eye ointment or vitamin K. That being said, my kid's pedi is very pro-vax(won't take kids who don't vax unless for legit medical reasons) and they were on board with waiting for 2 months to start hep b.

[sushi]

Looks like they took care of it.

Ihonestly don't know why hep b is at birth. I don't really care about it, but it seems odd that one would be singled out.

[Kristinmo]

Jul 7, 2013 14:02:52 GMT -5 sushi said:

Looks like they took care of it.

Ihonestly don't know why hep b is at birth. I don't really care about it, but it seems odd that one would be singled out.

I believe it is because it is more likely to be passed on through birth than any of the others. But if you has proper prenatal care and know you don't have it, there really isn't a reason to get it before 2 months.

[redheadbaker]

Jul 7, 2013 14:05:53 GMT -5 Kristinmo said:

Jul 7, 2013 14:02:52 GMT -5 sushi said:

Looks like they took care of it.

Ihonestly don't know why hep b is at birth. I don't really care about it, but it seems odd that one would be singled out.

I believe it is because it is more likely to be passed on through birth than any of the others. But if you has proper prenatal care and know you don't have it, there really isn't a reason to get it before 2 months.

Also, if the baby needs surgery immediately after birth and might require a blood transfusion -- HepB can be transmitted that way. 

[debatethis]

Jul 7, 2013 14:46:38 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Jul 7, 2013 14:05:53 GMT -5 Kristinmo said:

I believe it is because it is more likely to be passed on through birth than any of the others. But if you has proper prenatal care and know you don't have it, there really isn't a reason to get it before 2 months.

Also, if the baby needs surgery immediately after birth and might require a blood transfusion -- HepB can be transmitted that way. 

Yep. Though by and large most Hep B+ blood donations would never make it to a recipient since they're screened so carefully now.
Either way, the fact that SO MANY people seem to think they know better than the CDC and WHO is astounding to me.

ETA: LO will be getting any and all vaccines as soon as possible. MH is Hep C+ thanks to a blood transfusion he got when he was 6 during open heart surgery so we're not screwing around with "maybes". I'd like to show some of these yahoos the current treatment protocol for Hep B and Hep C and then have them try to tell me that one vaccine is somehow "traumatic".

[pixy0stix]

My pedi told us to decline Hep B at the hospital and to start the series when we brought zb in for her first office visit.

[overture]

We declined eye ointment and hep b at birth. I read about the ointment and didn't see a compelling reason for her to get it. She started hep b at two months.

[heyjude]

We did everything they suggested but we waited until the 2 month apt for the hep B shot with the doctor's blessing. I guess this makes me a pseudo delayer? Barf.

[annieblah]

LT got HepB at hospital as BM did not have any prenatal care. So, we had no issue with it, then, and his ped rec'd it because of this aspect.

[SusanBAnthony]

Jul 7, 2013 16:37:12 GMT -5 overture said:

We declined eye ointment and hep b at birth. I read about the ointment and didn't see a compelling reason for her to get it. She started hep b at two months.

Ditto.  It's been 6 years since I did my research but I recall that the reason they do them for all babies at birth is to catch moms who did not have prenatal care (and thus may not know if they were positive for hep b or whatever std the eye ointment is for).  While that makes sense as a general recommendation, if you do know that you received prenatal care and were screened, then what is the problem?

[redheadbaker]

Jul 7, 2013 19:14:33 GMT -5 SusanBAnthony said:

Jul 7, 2013 16:37:12 GMT -5 overture said:

We declined eye ointment and hep b at birth. I read about the ointment and didn't see a compelling reason for her to get it. She started hep b at two months.

Ditto.  It's been 6 years since I did my research but I recall that the reason they do them for all babies at birth is to catch moms who did not have prenatal care (and thus may not know if they were positive for hep b or whatever std the eye ointment is for).  While that makes sense as a general recommendation, if you do know that you received prenatal care and were screened, then what is the problem?

It's not just STDs that cause problems. Moms with undiagnosed vaginal infections during delivery can also cause problems.

Considering the risk to the newborn is blindness, and the risk of NOT doing it is nearly non-existent, I don't get refusing. 

In my state, it's required by law anyway. 

[msmerymac]

But people who just blindly follows the CDC's vax recommendations are just sheeple.

[SusanBAnthony]

Jul 7, 2013 19:28:19 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Jul 7, 2013 19:14:33 GMT -5 SusanBAnthony said:

It's not just STDs that cause problems. Moms with undiagnosed vaginal infections during delivery can also cause problems.

Considering the risk to the newborn is blindness, and the risk of NOT doing it is nearly non-existent, I don't get refusing. 

In my state, it's required by law anyway. 

Again, it's been 6 years, but I swear I had a swab done at term to make sure I didn't have any infections.  

[debatethis]

Jul 7, 2013 19:50:12 GMT -5 SusanBAnthony said:

Jul 7, 2013 19:28:19 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

It's not just STDs that cause problems. Moms with undiagnosed vaginal infections during delivery can also cause problems.

Considering the risk to the newborn is blindness, and the risk of NOT doing it is nearly non-existent, I don't get refusing. 

In my state, it's required by law anyway. 

Again, it's been 6 years, but I swear I had a swab done at term to make sure I didn't have any infections.  

That was probably for Group B strep.

[Deleted]

I am guessing she is a phlebotomist.

[ttt]

Jul 7, 2013 21:13:52 GMT -5 @spenjamins said:

I am guessing she is a phlebotomist.

She's an ultrasound tech.

[Deleted]

Jul 7, 2013 23:34:45 GMT -5 ttt said:

Jul 7, 2013 21:13:52 GMT -5 @spenjamins said:

I am guessing she is a phlebotomist.

She's an ultrasound tech.

That was my second choice. LOL.

[Miss Phryne Fisher]

Jul 7, 2013 20:35:19 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

Jul 7, 2013 19:30:22 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

But people who just blindly follows the CDC's vax recommendations are just sheeple.

My FAVORITE part of an anti-vaxxer argument is when the rest of us are called sheeple. Best ever.

Blindly following Jenny McCarthy and doing all your "research" online means you did your homework and are a free thinker. Sorry you didn't know that! 

[downtoearth]

Jul 7, 2013 16:29:03 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

My pedi told us to decline Hep B at the hospital and to start the series when we brought zb in for her first office visit.

My ped said the same.  Said that it actually isn't as effective at birth anyway and so they just get another one right after.