Do you think Miley Cyrus is racist?

[kiminky]

Aug 26, 2013 21:56:36 GMT -5 @kande818 said:

She sees those girls as props. I don't think she's a racist, I think she has a publicist that knows how to get her in the news.

Mission accomplished, I guess.  She certainly has everyone talking about her, good or bad.

[vampsterdam]

Aug 26, 2013 22:18:17 GMT -5 toledo said:

I guess you guys aren't seeing what I'm seeing on FB.

 I'm late in responding to this, but yes, I've seen so many comments and memes on Instagram about "This is why ladies need to do squats" and "She is skinny-fat! LOLOLOL".

I just can't with the stupid squat memes anymore. "Does she even squat bro?!" Ugh!

[vampsterdam]

Aug 27, 2013 5:26:39 GMT -5 meganew said:

I think my point somehow got lost. I don't care about the dancing (for the record, leaning over and shaking your ass =\= twerking), the outfit, the tongue.

I care about the fact that she's surrounding herself with hired women, the majority of whom (if not all, as was the case in this performance) are black, and using them as a way to further some image she's created for herself. While reducing them to nothing more than butts meant for slapping and grabbing on stage.

LHC posted an interesting Jezebel article yesterday.

I agree with a lot of it (like, um, don't use people as props seems like an obvious) but some of it? I'm not sure how to feel. This was one of the comments (from the article) and I think I agree with it. I don't know, doesn't it seem offensive to say, "Grills are a black people thing"?

From Jezebel: Am I the only person who thinks it would be helpful to stop defining racial boundaries in terms of clothing and dance moves and fingernails? Saying "these clothes are for black people," "these dance moves are for black people," "this manicure is for black people" is far more cringe-inducing than a pop star with bad taste.

It just seems really fucking racist."

[luckyval]

Aug 26, 2013 22:05:15 GMT -5 frkls said:

also, this:

And it looked especially sad compared to Lady Gaga's ass, because OMGah...

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[PinkSquirrel]

It was definitely racist.   Was she intentionally being racist?  I don't think so.  Does that matter?  Not one bit. 

This article has a smattering of all of the reasons why Miley's performance was really problematic groupthink.jezebel.com/solidarity-is-for-miley-cyrus-1203666732

Also, can someone explain why no one is talking about how terrible her singing was?  I could have done a better job when she was singing at the beginning of Blurred Lines and I can't sing to save my life

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Aug 27, 2013 10:20:17 GMT -5 PinkSquirrel said:

It was definitely racist.   Was she intentionally being racist?  I don't think so.  Does that matter?  Not one bit. 

This article has a smattering of all of the reasons why Miley's performance was really problematic groupthink.jezebel.com/solidarity-is-for-miley-cyrus-1203666732

Also, can someone explain why no one is talking about how terrible her singing was?  I could have done a better job when she was singing at the beginning of Blurred Lines and I can't sing to save my life

I think it is a pretty well known fact that she is a horrible singer. But I could not get past the dance moves and outfit to concentrate on the singing.

[Deleted]

I'm reading the HuffPost article.

Can someone explain this to me:

"...her twerking are contributing to the oppression of black people." How does a dance style oppress a race?

I know that potentially makes me sound dumb, but I don't understand. Can someone please explain it to me?

Don't people of all races twerk?

[PinkSquirrel]

Aug 27, 2013 10:25:06 GMT -5 @imback said:

I'm reading the HuffPost article.

Can someone explain this to me:

"...her twerking are contributing to the oppression of black people." How does a dance style oppress a race?

I know that potentially makes me sound dumb, but I don't understand. Can someone please explain it to me?

Don't people of all races twerk?

This article is from a few months ago, but talks about a lot of the issues www.salon.com/2013/06/24/is_miley_cyrus_twerking_racist/


This one also gets into the cultural appropriation issues 

jezebel.com/on-miley-cyrus-ratchet-culture-and-accessorizing-with-514381016

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Aug 27, 2013 10:40:58 GMT -5 PinkSquirrel said:

Aug 27, 2013 10:25:06 GMT -5 @imback said:

I'm reading the HuffPost article.

Can someone explain this to me:

"...her twerking are contributing to the oppression of black people." How does a dance style oppress a race?

I know that potentially makes me sound dumb, but I don't understand. Can someone please explain it to me?

Don't people of all races twerk?

This article is from a few months ago, but talks about a lot of the issues www.salon.com/2013/06/24/is_miley_cyrus_twerking_racist/


This one also gets into the cultural appropriation issues 

jezebel.com/on-miley-cyrus-ratchet-culture-and-accessorizing-with-514381016

Thank you.  I will read these as well.

[Jalapeñomel]

Aug 27, 2013 10:46:11 GMT -5 puddleofgrace said:

I feel this is a good post to add that I have no idea what twerking is. *-)

Why is twerking this new thing? It's just ass shaking, no?  Haven't people been doing this since, well, forever?

[Muddled]

Aug 27, 2013 10:46:11 GMT -5 puddleofgrace said:

I feel this is a good post to add that I have no idea what twerking is. *-)

I'm here.

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Twerking is a newish thing. Not brand-new, but it's definitely a newer phenomenon.

I also think Miley is a racist fool.

[eddy]

I do buy into the racist stuff.

But all the other outrage is laughable. Yes she was vulgar. Yes it was bizarre. IT WAS ALSO THE FREAKING VMAs. You are suppose to be out there and vulgar and not wear clothes. It is an award show for the younger folk.

Of course someone like me is not going to think it was not a great performance. I am 32, have two kids, and SUV and I like cardigans. I am not her audience! I do like her songs though.

That is why I find all of this commentary annoying. It is all talking heads who fall into my demographic clutching their pearls. We should also probably tell her to get off our lawn.

I mean by all means talk about the racist undertones. I think those are really good points and we should be thinking about what was going on up there.

But the foam finger, and the twerking, and the skinsuit, play on Miley. Play on.

[bananapancakes]

A woman I follow on pinterest wrote an interesting article about this. She takes a very hard line about it. Here's a quote, "This woman, who has in the past been called out for her appropriation and disrespect, was an embarrassment to white people last night, evidenced most painfully when she slaps a woman of colour in the backside during her performance."

Here's a link to the full article: ourfeministplayschool.ca/talk-twerking-avoid-slut-shaming/

[Ohhmm(bligo)]

OH HAY WAIT.

I think she's racist. I think she has no idea she's being so.