So is Oriental still ok to use?

[Deleted]

Not okay unless you're talking about rugs.

[nomad100]

I have no idea but I know the University of Chicago has The Oriental Institute. oi.uchicago.edu/

Here is the description: The Oriental Institute is a research organization and museum devoted to the study of the ancient Near East. Founded in 1919 by James Henry Breasted, the Institute, a part of the University of Chicago, is an internationally recognized pioneer in the archaeology, philology, and history of early Near Eastern civilizations.

[tacokick]

I think some organizations just kept it, even though it isn't the socially accepted term currently, rather than change their name.

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[Deleted]

No, but the UK is always slow to let go of their colonial history.

[sonrisa]

Sept 11, 2013 7:27:12 GMT -5 nomad100 said:

I have no idea but I know the University of Chicago has The Oriental Institute. oi.uchicago.edu/

...Near Eastern civilizations.

Looking at current uses (obscure academia and rugs), it sounds like it is used to apply to objects and ancient history in the middle east. Which contrasts with it's use as a derogatory slur that is usually addressed at people from southeast asia. 

[nomad100]

Sept 11, 2013 7:49:11 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Sept 11, 2013 7:27:12 GMT -5 nomad100 said:

I have no idea but I know the University of Chicago has The Oriental Institute. oi.uchicago.edu/

...Near Eastern civilizations.

Looking at current uses (obscure academia and rugs), it sounds like it is used to apply to objects and ancient history in the middle east. Which contrasts with it's use as a derogatory slur that is usually addressed at people from southeast asia. 

Do people under 85 still use the word Oriental?  I think the only people who I have ever heard use the word in a coversation were my 95 yo grandmother and my 92 yo great-aunt.  Sweet old ladies but some of the terms they use(d)...not the most PC.

Sometimes this was my face when they would tell stories. 

[sonrisa]

Sept 11, 2013 7:55:25 GMT -5 nomad100 said:

Sept 11, 2013 7:49:11 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Looking at current uses (obscure academia and rugs), it sounds like it is used to apply to objects and ancient history in the middle east. Which contrasts with it's use as a derogatory slur that is usually addressed at people from southeast asia. 

Do people under 85 still use the word Oriental?  I think the only people who I have ever heard use the word in a coversation were my 95 yo grandmother and my 92 yo great-aunt.  Sweet old ladies but some of the terms they use(d)...not the most PC.

Sometimes this was my face when they would tell stories. 

Not in my world. But people have posted about it on ML, so I guess so?

[LeggsBenedict]

Sept 11, 2013 7:55:25 GMT -5 nomad100 said:

Sept 11, 2013 7:49:11 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Looking at current uses (obscure academia and rugs), it sounds like it is used to apply to objects and ancient history in the middle east. Which contrasts with it's use as a derogatory slur that is usually addressed at people from southeast asia. 

Do people under 85 still use the word Oriental?  I think the only people who I have ever heard use the word in a coversation were my 95 yo grandmother and my 92 yo great-aunt.  Sweet old ladies but some of the terms they use(d)...not the most PC.

Sometimes this was my face when they would tell stories. 

I heard it as recently as last month from a 27 year old coworker.

[nomad100]

LeggsBenedict Wow, I had no idea people (other than the really olds) still used that word in relation to people. Crazy and so not cool.

[Deleted]

Ok in this context.

Improper use is like porn.

I know it when I see it.

[chickadee77]

Considering that Orientalism is still the name of the field of study, I would agree that this is okay.It's not addressing people in particular, but rather broad cultural and historical studies.