Verdict Reached! (Sandusky)

[basilosaurus]

Well, of course he's a sick fuck. Healthy people don't rape boys. That doesn't make it excusable or less of a heinous crime. I can cheer that justice has been served, that he'll be locked away, even if it doesn't even come close to making up for the suffering he's inflicted.

[josieposy]

I truly believe that the punishment he deserves will be given in the afterlife. Prison is nothing.

[Deleted]

Jun 22, 2012 22:16:02 GMT -5 josieposy said:

I truly believe that the punishment he deserves will be given in the afterlife. Prison is nothing.

This has been my thinking since the whole thing started. Eternity is a very long time.

[casmgn]

Joe is on with Anderson now....what a train wreck. While the crew was wiring him up, he actually asked if the anchor would be cute. The reporter on the scene is so obviously done with dealing with him.

[Deleted]

Jun 22, 2012 22:17:36 GMT -5 casmgn said:

Joe is on with Anderson now....what a train wreck. While the crew was wiring him up, he actually asked if the anchor would be cute. The reporter on the scene is so obviously done with dealing with him.

OMFG. +o(

As I was preparing to reply, he was finishing his interview with AC and said "Thank you. I watch you all the time". Poor AC looked pretty not flattered.

[Velvetshady]

Jun 22, 2012 21:54:16 GMT -5 druidp said:

I have no doubt in my mind he's got sick shit going on in his brain - in the way that he saw nothing wrong with what he did to those boys. I might be wrong, and he may be intentionally diabolical enough to target and serially rape juveniles who were placed under his power... but I get the feeling he views his criminal actions as just another facet of his affection/training (ick ick ick) for them.

Which getting butt-fucked daily for the rest of his life is no cure for. Sorry, but it's just not. Thus I can't get on board with the "Woohoo, I hope you get butt raped ten times for every time you raped a kid" mentality.

There is no "cure" for what this twistedfuck did. I sorry, there just isn't.

And, I believe, the people wishing him harm are just attempting to visualize some appropriate level of punishment. No, in reality, I'd never imagine wishing rape on anyone , but if I were to, wishing it on a man that potentially created a mini army of future abusers while getting his rocks off by physically, emotionally, and mentally abusing vulnerable boys would probably be closest I'd get. There is no possible "equal" punishment for him. Even if he was a victim as a child himself, that does not in anyway excuse the hell this man has created.

[2vermont]

Jun 22, 2012 22:26:01 GMT -5 Velvetshady said:

Jun 22, 2012 21:54:16 GMT -5 druidp said:

I have no doubt in my mind he's got sick shit going on in his brain - in the way that he saw nothing wrong with what he did to those boys. I might be wrong, and he may be intentionally diabolical enough to target and serially rape juveniles who were placed under his power... but I get the feeling he views his criminal actions as just another facet of his affection/training (ick ick ick) for them.

Which getting butt-fucked daily for the rest of his life is no cure for. Sorry, but it's just not. Thus I can't get on board with the "Woohoo, I hope you get butt raped ten times for every time you raped a kid" mentality.

There is no "cure" for what this twistedfuck did. I sorry, there just isn't.

And, I believe, the people wishing him harm are just attempting to visualize some appropriate level of punishment. No, in reality, I'd never imagine wishing rape on anyone , but if I were to, wishing it on a man that potentially created a mini army of future abusers while getting his rocks off by physically, emotionally, and mentally abusing vulnerable boys would probably be closest I'd get. There is no possible "equal" punishment for him. Even if he was a victim as a child himself, that does not in anyway excuse the hell this man has created.

No one is excusing this man but you are recognizing what these kids could become as a result of their experiences. Do you wish rape on them as well if they turn out like Sandusky? Is it really the answer...ever?

[msmerymac]

Jun 22, 2012 22:32:14 GMT -5 2vermont said:

Jun 22, 2012 22:26:01 GMT -5 Velvetshady said:

There is no "cure" for what this twistedfuck did. I sorry, there just isn't.

And, I believe, the people wishing him harm are just attempting to visualize some appropriate level of punishment. No, in reality, I'd never imagine wishing rape on anyone , but if I were to, wishing it on a man that potentially created a mini army of future abusers while getting his rocks off by physically, emotionally, and mentally abusing vulnerable boys would probably be closest I'd get. There is no possible "equal" punishment for him. Even if he was a victim as a child himself, that does not in anyway excuse the hell this man has created.

No one is excusing this man but you are recognizing what these kids could become as a result of their experiences. Do you wish rape on them as well if they turn out like Sandusky? Is it really the answer...ever?

Yeah, I'm in agreement.

Usually I'm all for rehabilitation in prison, but for this instance, I'm good with prison just keeping him away from the rest of the general population forever.

[2vermont]

Jun 22, 2012 22:37:27 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

I can wish a million dollars on myself but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. Sorry, but I can't get my pearls clutched over people wishing bad things on a serial child rapist.

No one is clutching their pearls.

[2vermont]

Jun 22, 2012 22:42:04 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

Jun 22, 2012 22:32:14 GMT -5 2vermont said:

No one is excusing this man but you are recognizing what these kids could become as a result of their experiences. Do you wish rape on them as well if they turn out like Sandusky? Is it really the answer...ever?

I agree, 2Vermont.

Also as a side note, let's not fall too far into the trap that victims become victimizers and victimizers were always victims. These things don't ALWAYS follow. I don't like the idea that everyone who was a victim of child abuse is now suspect.

That;s a good point Bunny. I don't know what his childhood was like, but I just wanted to put out there that his being a victim himself is a possibility and would at least explain his actions.

[Deleted]

Jun 22, 2012 22:29:20 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

I don't actively wish violent buttrape on him, but I wouldn't be upset if it happened. Much like I wasn't upset when Dahmer got his head bashed in with a broomstick.

Karma's a bitch.

This is where I am.

[2vermont]

Jun 22, 2012 22:48:13 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Jun 22, 2012 22:43:03 GMT -5 2vermont said:

No one is clutching their pearls.

Whatever you want to call it then. Either way, can't get upset about it. Or disappointed, or gently disapproving. This is the internet so I don't exactly have facial cues to go off of here.

I guess I just find some of the comments interesting given that probably the same folks are strongly against torture of any kind under any circumstances. I think it's safe to say that butt rape is torture. I think this was what Dylanite was getting at in his thread the other day.

[druidp]

Jun 22, 2012 22:52:44 GMT -5 2vermont said:

I guess I just find some of the comments interesting given that probably the same folks are strongly against torture of any kind under any circumstances. I think it's safe to say that butt rape is torture. I think this was what Dylanite was getting at in his thread the other day.

I think this is interesting as well. I honestly (with board changes, name changes and me having a horrid memory as far as who is who and what stances they maintain) can't recall who all on here has rallied for rehabilitation vs. actual punishment for criminal offenders. Plus I would definitely draw a line in the sand between being a drug dealer/user and being a pedophile, for instance.

I 100% agree with keeping Sandusky in prison where he can no longer harm any more children. I also 100% believe he'll be butt raped in prison, regardless of any steps they take to prevent it.

And I don't wear pearls. I just find the variety and vigor of people's reactions interesting to take in and dissect.

[dev22]

I don't actively wish rape on Sandusky - I just wouldn't be upset if it happened. Does that make sense? I just don't think I could feel sympathy for him in the case that he was raped/injured. I certainly don't think it should be legal or urged.

[druidp]

Jun 22, 2012 23:18:57 GMT -5 dev22 said:

I don't actively wish rape on Sandusky - I just wouldn't be upset if it happened. Does that make sense? I just don't think I could feel sympathy for him in the case that he was raped/injured. I certainly don't think it should be legal or urged.

And I can get on board with this. And thanks to L&O SVU, it's pretty much common knowledge that kiddie rapists get theirs in turn in prison. It's like I know it'll happen to him in all likelihood and I'm "taking it in stride" (horribly use of words but that's what I've got at after 10pm), but not hoping it happens to him.

[Velvetshady]

Jun 22, 2012 22:42:04 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

Jun 22, 2012 22:32:14 GMT -5 2vermont said:

No one is excusing this man but you are recognizing what these kids could become as a result of their experiences. Do you wish rape on them as well if they turn out like Sandusky? Is it really the answer...ever?

I agree, 2Vermont.

Also as a side note, let's not fall too far into the trap that victims become victimizers and victimizers were always victims. These things don't ALWAYS follow. I don't like the idea that everyone who was a victim of child abuse is now suspect.

If you are referring to my comments, I used the word "potentially" for a reason. The thought that the asswipe may have been abused as a child was bought up a a way to possibly "explain his actions"--I mentioned the possibility as a way to illustrate the possible full scope of the impact of his actions. I do not believe that victims always become victimizers and I didn't mean to imply that at all.

I'm glad he should spend the rest of his life locked away from potential victims. And I do believe the odds of him be raped in prison himself are high, with or without random people on the Internet stating they think he deserves it. I do, however, believe that he's getting off far too easy no matter what happens to him going forward, although I don't know of any level of punishment that would be equivalent.

And I think think he's going to have a great chance for appeal based on incompetent representation.

[emmybean]

I am glad he will never be able to harm another child. Past that, I don't give a flying fuck what happens to him. He is a shit stain and deserves nothing more than to be promptly forgotten by everyone, save the lessons his fuckery can teach parents to avoid people like him in the future.

[curmudgeon]

Jun 22, 2012 21:54:16 GMT -5 druidp said:

I have no doubt in my mind he's got sick shit going on in his brain - in the way that he saw nothing wrong with what he did to those boys. I might be wrong, and he may be intentionally diabolical enough to target and serially rape juveniles who were placed under his power... but I get the feeling he views his criminal actions as just another facet of his affection/training (ick ick ick) for them.

Which getting butt-fucked daily for the rest of his life is no cure for. Sorry, but it's just not. Thus I can't get on board with the "Woohoo, I hope you get butt raped ten times for every time you raped a kid" mentality.

I don't care if he viewed juvenile rape as "affection," ass rape seems like a pretty appropriate method to figure out that what he did was not appropriate.

[curmudgeon]

Jun 22, 2012 23:45:55 GMT -5 8675309 said:

Something tells me that a man as fucked in the head as he is wouldn't mind being ass raped so That would never be punishment enough for me.

Methinks someone doesn't understand the dynamics of the brutality of rape.

[IIOY]

According to photos in my Twitter feed, Pedo-bear was at the courthouse last night.

ETA: I predict Sandusky will be on suicide watch two minutes after arriving at prison.

[basilosaurus]

There's a special place in my heart for pedo bear.

[AllieHound]

Jun 22, 2012 22:52:44 GMT -5 2vermont said:

Jun 22, 2012 22:48:13 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Whatever you want to call it then. Either way, can't get upset about it. Or disappointed, or gently disapproving. This is the internet so I don't exactly have facial cues to go off of here.

I guess I just find some of the comments interesting given that probably the same folks are strongly against torture of any kind under any circumstances. I think it's safe to say that butt rape is torture. I think this was what Dylanite was getting at in his thread the other day.

I'd say that it's important to remember that there's a reason that we separate emotions from law. I can feel that Sandusky is a worthless piece of trash who doesn't deserve to live another moment of his life without pain and fear...but I can recognize that that feeling shouldn't be put into practice and the man shouldn't be tortured. It's not like anyone is suggesting that he gets put into the general population and the guards are instructed to look the other way. It's just a feeling. Me wishing horrible things on him does not change my stance on capital punishment or torture, because I'd be horrified if I found out that there was the institutional use of torture on Sandusky (or anyone, really).

That doesn't mean that I can't smirk to myself when I think about it, though.

[copzgirl1171]

He will never see the general population in prison, as in his life prior to all of this he will be protected and coddled from anything bad happening to him. He may see cell time as much as 23 hours a day and will most likely take his rec alone as well as his showers.

Doesn't mean someone can't get to him but the likelihood is slim. So honestly I am fine with him writing Dottie and twiddling his thumbs all day. At least he can't touch another child, ever.

[dylanite]

Pedo means fart in Spanish. Ok back to sleep here.

[ringstrue]

Fuck him. Fuck him right in the ear.

[2vermont]

Jun 23, 2012 2:41:40 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Dylanite's thread was about people who feeling raping prisoners is not a big deal. This is not about prisoners, this is about child rape. If he'd been aquitted people would still be wishing violent assrape on him. It has nothing to do with him being a prisoner & everything to do with what his crime was.

Sandusky will be a prisoner who is guilty of child rape. I'm not seeing how this doesn't apply. It's just an eye for eye form of torture. And apparently torture is okay if an individual deems it such (as long as the state doesn't promote it). I guess the same people would be fine with prisoners being killed in prison too ...as long as there is no official death penalty. Yes, there is a difference, but it makes it sound like there's really nothing wrong with torturing or killing...just who inflicts it.

[ttt]

Jun 23, 2012 8:24:33 GMT -5 2vermont said:

Jun 23, 2012 2:41:40 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Dylanite's thread was about people who feeling raping prisoners is not a big deal. This is not about prisoners, this is about child rape. If he'd been aquitted people would still be wishing violent assrape on him. It has nothing to do with him being a prisoner & everything to do with what his crime was.

Sandusky will be a prisoner who is guilty of child rape. I'm not seeing how this doesn't apply. It's just an eye for eye form of torture. And apparently torture is okay if an individual deems it such (as long as the state doesn't promote it). I guess the same people would be fine with prisoners being killed in prison too ...as long as there is no official death penalty. Yes, there is a difference, but it makes it sound like there's really nothing wrong with torturing or killing...just who inflicts it.

I think there's a big difference between not being sorry (or being happy about it) when someone horrible is a victim of torture or murder (like Dahmer) and encoding torture or murder into our laws and having the government actively practice it.

[2vermont]

Jun 23, 2012 5:51:00 GMT -5 AllieHound said:

Jun 22, 2012 22:52:44 GMT -5 2vermont said:

I guess I just find some of the comments interesting given that probably the same folks are strongly against torture of any kind under any circumstances. I think it's safe to say that butt rape is torture. I think this was what Dylanite was getting at in his thread the other day.

I'd say that it's important to remember that there's a reason that we separate emotions from law. I can feel that Sandusky is a worthless piece of trash who doesn't deserve to live another moment of his life without pain and fear...but I can recognize that that feeling shouldn't be put into practice and the man shouldn't be tortured. It's not like anyone is suggesting that he gets put into the general population and the guards are instructed to look the other way. It's just a feeling. Me wishing horrible things on him does not change my stance on capital punishment or torture, because I'd be horrified if I found out that there was the institutional use of torture on Sandusky (or anyone, really).

That doesn't mean that I can't smirk to myself when I think about it, though.

I get what you're saying, but no, I'd say most of the "I hope he gets butt raped" posts are more than just a feeling.

[heightsyankee]

Jun 23, 2012 8:27:18 GMT -5 ttt said:

Jun 23, 2012 8:24:33 GMT -5 2vermont said:

Sandusky will be a prisoner who is guilty of child rape. I'm not seeing how this doesn't apply. It's just an eye for eye form of torture. And apparently torture is okay if an individual deems it such (as long as the state doesn't promote it). I guess the same people would be fine with prisoners being killed in prison too ...as long as there is no official death penalty. Yes, there is a difference, but it makes it sound like there's really nothing wrong with torturing or killing...just who inflicts it.

I think there's a big difference between not being sorry (or being happy about it) when someone horrible is a victim of torture or murder (like Dahmer) and encoding torture or murder into our laws and having the government actively practice it.

I agree. It's like if he was acquitted and one of his victims killed him on the street. Most people (myself included) would have a hard time feeling bad and might even feel a little satisfaction, but I would never support an organized vigilante group going after him post-acquittal.

[Deleted]

Jun 23, 2012 0:30:15 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Justice feels pretty hollow when all is said and done, though.

Yeah. Nothing can ever, ever make up for what happened to those kids.