I don't find this any different than drinking around kids. I certainly wouldn't get smashed while being the main caregiver of a child, but a glass of wine? Sure. You don't have to get out of your mind stoned every time you smoke, just like you don't have to get plastered every time you drink.
Also, I found the article pretty funny.
In any case, I would not smoke pot in front of or around children. But I don't really judge those who do so responsibly.
I'm much better at gauging my impairment after alcohol consumption than pot, though. So much depends on external factors. I can see that my beer is 8% abv and know in advance to stop at 1 if I have to drive, or if I have other responsibilities. Pot? Who knows how strong it is? You can take one hit and see, but, what's really the point?
But that's my own experience and comfort level, talking.
Post by meshaliuknits on Jun 26, 2012 13:26:15 GMT -5
I can absolutely see how being stoned makes your kid more entertaining than usual. Not to mention reading the same book about what that stupid bear sees over and over more tolerable.
At some point, don't you think her kid notices she's fucking high though? It's one thing for your kid to know that you smoke pot same as a kid knowing you're sipping a glass of wine. But imo, it's quite another for your kid to be able to look at you and know that you're drunk off your ass or high off your gourd.
But I'm an uptight heifer anyway and can't fathom keeping illegal substances in my house. Part of it is because I'm divorced and pinky's father would love an excuse. But in general, I just don't think it's smart to do this. After all, even if something happens to your kid that was straight up an accident and could have easily happened to the child of sober parents, how good do you think it's going to look when the cops realize you've been smoking the good stuff?
yes ma'am...also, I mean I don't think my employer would be remotely happy with me
Wouldn't adrenaline pretty much flush out your system in an emergency situation?
No. You'll get that initial boost that will sharpen your focus and reactions, but you'll still be high when the adrenaline wears off.
So you'll be able to focus while you are actually grabbing your child and running from the burning building, or administering the hiemlich or whatever but then 30 minutes later when the adreline has worn off and you'd be all out of it anyway just from sheer freakedoutness - you're also still high and you're probably still dealing with the fallout from the emergency. (not that I've ever found myself in any sort of emergency situation while impaired. Nope, not at all. no siree.)
I dunno, I'm really kinda confused by everybody dismissing the fact that she specifically arranged for her H to be the parent in charge that night. If she got high while being primary caretaker, then I'll judge. Just like I'd judge somebody who got drunk while caring for their kid. But if her H is willing to give her the night off so to speak, then what's the big deal?
On my mommy offboard someone admitted that she smoked pot during pregnancy, now and while BF. She back pedaled a few times when called out and I am not certain which things were actually true or not. I mean she did a whole shit load of back pedaling.
I don't think kids should have to witness their parents like this at all. I don't care if they can't really understand what is going on, it's wrong, illegal and I am certain your kids can be taken away. I would hope my H would have common sense enough to ask me to leave if I ever decided to get high or even flat out stupid drunk in front of our kids, at minimum lock me in a room.
I take no issue with someone smoking pot responsibly, btw.
Some of my very good mommy friends want to get a sitter and have pot night when we are all done BFing. I'll decline b/c pot lost whatever appeal it may have had way back in college but it's a hilarious thought because these ladies are not at all what you think of when you think of pot smokers.
Wouldn't adrenaline pretty much flush out your system in an emergency situation?
No. You'll get that initial boost that will sharpen your focus and reactions, but you'll still be high when the adrenaline wears off.
So you'll be able to focus while you are actually grabbing your child and running from the burning building, or administering the hiemlich or whatever but then 30 minutes later when the adreline has worn off and you'd be all out of it anyway just from sheer freakedoutness - you're also still high and you're probably still dealing with the fallout from the emergency. (not that I've ever found myself in any sort of emergency situation while impaired. Nope, not at all. no siree.)
I dunno, I'm really kinda confused by everybody dismissing the fact that she specifically arranged for her H to be the parent in charge that night. If she got high while being primary caretaker, then I'll judge. Just like I'd judge somebody who got drunk while caring for their kid. But if her H is willing to give her the night off so to speak, then what's the big deal?
For me PERSONALLY I don't get taking time off from parenthood in that manner. I need to be or have control of myself in case of emergency. I could not deal with the guilt of doing or making a stupid decision while my child was with me...even if DH is stone cold sober.
I can't get up in arms about this. I mean, her husband was there caring for the child, so.....? I think many moms on this board brag about having a glass of wine or three while their kids are around, so what is the difference here?
I've never done any type of illegal drug/substance, and I just can't relate to this mindset. I can't be objective about it based on my own experiences (my cousin died of a drug overdose when I was 21 and it started with pot when we were younger and just kept going - in and out of rehab, interventions, you name it - until his dad found him dead in his room almost 10 years ago).
On the other hand, I don't mind drinking in front of my kids - or even getting a little drunk/buzzed if MH is sober - so, meh, I guess. I feel like there is a difference though between this article and a glass of wine. She seems way more loopy than I am after a beer or a glass of wine, but maybe I'm just an alcoholic with a high tolerance?
Some of my very good mommy friends want to get a sitter and have pot night when we are all done BFing. I'll decline b/c pot lost whatever appeal it may have had way back in college but it's a hilarious thought because these ladies are not at all what you think of when you think of pot smokers.
Now this, I don't have any issues with.
I also wouldn't bat an eye at one parent toking up after the kid's gone to bed while the other stays sober.
I don't really care if people smoke pot, but this article has exactly the opposite of its intended effect. You're trying to tell me that it's totally OK to smoke pot as a mom, except you're telling me all about how you do it irresponsibly.
Also, it *is* illegal. Whether it should be is up for debate (I don't think it should be, personally), but for now, it is, and I don't think that it's right to do illegal things that might put your children in a bad situation.
I would also be super annoyed if my husband got stupid-stoned like this and then I had to be responsible for the kids AND answering all his annoying questions about Waldo and the Special Olympics.
Yeah I think the fact that her husband was there and sober makes it almost as responsible as it can be. And it's not illegal everywhere for everyone. It can be done quite legally where I live. But hey, let's just make a bunch of generalizations about stereotypes! Fun!
An adult smoking pot is not illegal, but smoking it and being stoned around your children can be child endangerment, no?
How does the legality work for those who are "Medicinal ID carriers"?
My friends school had a notice go out a few months ago stating that if you come to the school smelling of weed they will call CPS and will not release your kids to you. In cali it's legal for medicinal purposes. They have to have some ground to release a statement like this.
With that risk in mind for me it's a selfish act I am not willing to take. But I think it smells like crap and don't get the appeal anyway.
angry harpy, brownies are one of the easiest things to make gluten free. They contain very little flour on the whole so the substitutions aren't too compromising for the recipe. Look for flourless brownies or just look up gluten free brownies.
Bob's Red Mill makes a mix too I think. I'm a big fan of their products in general, but all of the mixes are great especially if you want to be lazy or you're just starting out. If you can't find those even Betty Crocker has a GF brownie mix now.
I assume you can go any of these routes with whatever type of butter you choose.
Do they make gluten free biscuits? That's what I really want. Something to put my over easy eggs on top of to sop up the yolk. Mmm, yolk.
Also, your avatar is adorable. That picture reminds me of Harto (creator of the My Drunk Kitchen YouTube series).
I'd say from a food science POV, that gluten free biscuits are probably pretty straightforward. Since biscuits are a crumbly kind of bread product, the lack of gluten might actually be a strength not an obstacle.
Stretchy bread like baquettes would be really challanging though, but anything where you DON'T want to develop the gluten should be pretty easy with just subbing in different flours.
There are several gluten free baking blogs out there....
ETA: I hit post without finishing my though. There are several gluten free blogs, but I don't read any of them regularly so I'm not sure what to recommend. Generally Bob's Red Mill is awesome for alternative flours and mixes, so if you can find a store with a good selection of their stuff you should have a good start.
Post by earlgreyhot on Jun 26, 2012 13:53:20 GMT -5
She sounds like a stupid stoner in the article, but, really, I don't take a huge issue with this. Her husband was preagreed the "on" parent so the baby was being cared for. Pot isn't a big deal, IMO. I know many people who have important jobs and are great parents and also smoke a few times a week.
That said, pot's legal status varies state by state and I wouldn't want her to get in a situation in which her baby could be removed.
I make my own biscuits and they're pretty good. They're like my grandma's old fashioned ones though, not a bunch of flaky layers.
Wawa is right on the money. Anything that is dense, without a real chewy texture is fine. If you tear open a piece of bread and see a lot of holes? That texture is really hard to achieve with substitutions.
My favorite flour is Tom Sawyer but I have to order online. I can get Bob's at the grocery store across the street so sometimes it wins out. And it's fine. You'll want to grab a bag of Xantham gum to add to recipes to improve the texture. Bob's Red Mill Flour has a guide on the package for how much to add depending on what you're making.
For cooking, like thickening or a quick crust on like chicken picatta, or a crumble on top of sweet potatoes or whatever, I just use pure rice flour. It's not that expensive.
And one thing that I learned is not to taste the batter when you're baking. Just don't do it. It will taste like beans, or rice, or something gross and you will be grossed out. Those flavors cook out in the baking but they're so strong in the raw batter. Just resist.
I'm lmao that this has become a gluten free thread.
Would the reactions to the article be different if she was coming home and toking up while alone with her kid?
I knew in kindergarten that my mom was smoking pot. In my mind smoking (even cigarettes) meant that mommy did funny things. I didn't like it because I felt out of control of the situation, and I had to learn how to do things myself because my mom would be flaking off doing something else. Then again, my mom isn't a stellar example of parenting.
At some point, don't you think her kid notices she's fucking high though? It's one thing for your kid to know that you smoke pot same as a kid knowing you're sipping a glass of wine. But imo, it's quite another for your kid to be able to look at you and know that you're drunk off your ass or high off your gourd.
But I'm an uptight heifer anyway and can't fathom keeping illegal substances in my house. Part of it is because I'm divorced and pinky's father would love an excuse. But in general, I just don't think it's smart to do this. After all, even if something happens to your kid that was straight up an accident and could have easily happened to the child of sober parents, how good do you think it's going to look when the cops realize you've been smoking the good stuff?
This is where I'm at too.
It's not legal in that many places. It's not legal here. When your kids are a little older - old enough to understand what you're doing, young enough not to know not to blurt it out to everyone - then what? Some places are hard-ass about even things like pot. You want your kid to tell teacher "Mommy loves smoking pot!" and be responsible for that visit from CPS? If you live in a liberal state, this isn't likely, but in some red states, they get very uptight about drugs.
I would feel different if she were: smoking or drinking alone with the kid, in an otherwise family/non drinking/smoking situation and brought her own (like an amusement park)
I would feel different if she were: smoking or drinking alone with the kid, in an otherwise family/non drinking/smoking situation and brought her own (like an amusement park)
What about a zoo?
EVERY time i go to the zoo (which is a lot, i have a toddler), i smell weed. every damn time.
anyway, i think there's a difference between "a person who smokes weed sometimes" and a self-described "stoner."
I don't really care if people smoke pot, but this article has exactly the opposite of its intended effect. You're trying to tell me that it's totally OK to smoke pot as a mom, except you're telling me all about how you do it irresponsibly.
Also, it *is* illegal. Whether it should be is up for debate (I don't think it should be, personally), but for now, it is, and I don't think that it's right to do illegal things that might put your children in a bad situation.
I would also be super annoyed if my husband got stupid-stoned like this and then I had to be responsible for the kids AND answering all his annoying questions about Waldo and the Special Olympics.
Yeah I think the fact that her husband was there and sober makes it almost as responsible as it can be. And it's not illegal everywhere for everyone. It can be done quite legally where I live. But hey, let's just make a bunch of generalizations about stereotypes! Fun!
Yes, saying that something that's illegal under federal law is an illegal thing to do is a TOTAL generalization about a stereotype!
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
At some point, don't you think her kid notices she's fucking high though? It's one thing for your kid to know that you smoke pot same as a kid knowing you're sipping a glass of wine. But imo, it's quite another for your kid to be able to look at you and know that you're drunk off your ass or high off your gourd.
But I'm an uptight heifer anyway and can't fathom keeping illegal substances in my house. Part of it is because I'm divorced and pinky's father would love an excuse. But in general, I just don't think it's smart to do this. After all, even if something happens to your kid that was straight up an accident and could have easily happened to the child of sober parents, how good do you think it's going to look when the cops realize you've been smoking the good stuff?
This is where I'm at too.
It's not legal in that many places. It's not legal here. When your kids are a little older - old enough to understand what you're doing, young enough not to know not to blurt it out to everyone - then what? Some places are hard-ass about even things like pot. You want your kid to tell teacher "Mommy loves smoking pot!" and be responsible for that visit from CPS? If you live in a liberal state, this isn't likely, but in some red states, they get very uptight about drugs.
A few years ago a kid turned his parents after a "just say no" speech at school or something. Kid where removed. Think it was in NC.
ETA: Maybe they weren't taken away, but here's the story I was thinking of. Kid found the joint, which leads me to think the parents weren't very careful:
Post by lyssbobiss, Command, B613 on Jun 26, 2012 14:17:34 GMT -5
I'm really upset because I LITERALLY thought pot had calories and was not at all making a joke about how I have no self-control when it comes to the munchies.
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
Yeah I think the fact that her husband was there and sober makes it almost as responsible as it can be. And it's not illegal everywhere for everyone. It can be done quite legally where I live. But hey, let's just make a bunch of generalizations about stereotypes! Fun!
Yes, saying that something that's illegal under federal law is an illegal thing to do is a TOTAL generalization about a stereotype!
Because that was the only issue either of us addressed in our posts.