Announcement from TN/TB gods' supervisor

[bumppkathleen]

Yeah, I'm not sorry.

[druidp]

You know why I love this mass defection so much? Because whether you like it or not, you all have just taken part in the free market.

Provider contracts with vendor who is sub par. Patrons get irked at changes & "updates" implemented by vendor via provider. Patrons find a more functional provider for needs. Provider shifts blame to vendor, but apparently not quite enough to seek a new vendor. Patrons refuse to go back, and now provider has a bit of a dilemma.

[heightsyankee]

Bullshit.

[OHMBLEEGOHHHHH!]

MONTHS! They hired a vendor to make updates to their message board and they have been trying to make it work for MONTHS!
My mind boggles more every day.
At least they understand that the regular Pampers Posters were not the only ones who have been gypped out of an EXPERIENCE.

[sprky79]

Where was this originally posted on TN/TB/TK?

[Deleted]

May 14, 2012 14:25:29 GMT -5 mr+ms said:

Maybe the ad views from the message boards are not worth that much (they may not be in the grand scheme of things - I mostly saw house ads while on TN).

I asked my H about this, since the message board ads were mostly internal. He says that the amount of traffic to the boards, even if they were never directed through the homepage, were crucial to website statistics that attract ad revenue. Your overall volume of users makes you appealing to advertisers. H said that this blunder would be suicidal to ad revenue.

[emmybean]

May 14, 2012 14:27:41 GMT -5 @copzgirl1171 said:

May 14, 2012 14:25:09 GMT -5 emmybean said:

Dear nest,

Lucky for us, we found our own third party host after realizing you would rather spend your days in a haze of champaign cocktails, new recipes to help us spice up out dinner parties and the latest trends in gallery wall arrangement then actually provide the service you claim to give even a single fuck about. Go ahead and take your time fixing your shit---we're cool.

YWIA, HTH.

50 new ways to please your partner using this 50 Shades kinky poll didn't make your cut?

Fuck. I missed so much not reading a single article ever! This could have saved my nest experience!

[redheadbaker]

And STILL no mention of a working SEARCH OPTION! GAH!

[copzgirl1171]

Oh, shiiiit

[pixy0stix]

May 14, 2012 14:35:45 GMT -5 @sprky79 said:

Where was this originally posted on TN/TB/TK?

TB moderator board (because they imploded the TN moderator board).

[caden]

May 14, 2012 14:25:10 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

May 14, 2012 14:22:44 GMT -5 caden said:

Have they posted a detailed apology to us since we left?

No. I'm relaying things as they're posted.

This is what gets me. I'd be a lot more sympathetic to TN if they cared enough to actually communicate with us. Apparently the Mods are worthy enough to make their radar, but the thousands of users who fled, they'll just stick our fingers in their ears and pretend we don't matter.

[heightsyankee]

May 14, 2012 14:37:11 GMT -5 @missusbee said:

May 14, 2012 14:25:29 GMT -5 mr+ms said:

Maybe the ad views from the message boards are not worth that much (they may not be in the grand scheme of things - I mostly saw house ads while on TN).

I asked my H about this, since the message board ads were mostly internal. He says that the amount of traffic to the boards, even if they were never directed through the homepage, were crucial to website statistics that attract ad revenue. Your overall volume of users makes you appealing to advertisers. H said that this blunder would be suicidal to ad revenue.

I'm putting them on bankruptcy watch.

[eddy]

The funny thing is I didn't even realize how many great options we were missing out on until we moved over here. Like the quick reply feature. LOVE IT. How many times did we wait 5 minutes to open up a new screen, type a post then wait another 5 minutes for it to post. If I don't want to post something fancy I just quick reply and bam never have to reload a page. I feel so liberated
So why can a website like this have all of these features but the nest can't figure it out?

[Deleted]

It's valuable to companies to just have our eyeballs see ads even if we never click on them. That's why message board hits absolutely do count.

[pixy0stix]

Irony? I posted this message on TN P&CE and it disappeared. ::lays head on desk:: I'm so done.

[druidp]

LOL, I saw this and immediately thought of the migration:

[UMaineTeach]

I agree with the company is just some guy in his basement theory.

I know exactly zero about computer programing and web design, but really, we are at the point in the internet where your site should JUST WORK.

We are also at a point where open communication from the top is expected early and often (e.g. FB, Netflix/Quicksterfail).

[brookles]

Using a third-party source is often a better idea than developing things yourself. EXCEPT when it's a shitty provider and when you make bad decisions about which features to use/how to use their service.

[EloiseWeenie]

Who is the vendor?
The CEO's preteen nephew?

[meshaliuknits]

May 14, 2012 14:38:48 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

May 14, 2012 14:35:45 GMT -5 @sprky79 said:

Where was this originally posted on TN/TB/TK?

TB moderator board (because they imploded the TN moderator board).

What the what? Is there a story here? Or did it just implode when everything else did?

[heightsyankee]

[pixy0stix]

May 14, 2012 14:52:57 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

May 14, 2012 14:38:48 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

TB moderator board (because they imploded the TN moderator board).

What the what? Is there a story here? Or did it just implode when everything else did?

It just disappeared during the change and wasn't put back. They told everyone to use the TB mod board.

[upnorthgal]

Sounds like they offshored their IT because, after all, it costs less! Hmm, I bet that doesn't seem like such a good deal now. I wonder how much traffic the boards brought and how the mass exodus will affect their ad rates...

OT AW: Woo-hoo this is my first post on the new board ;D

(now my 2nd since I had to correct my spelling, bwahahaha)

[eightangryreindeer]

May 14, 2012 14:51:58 GMT -5 EloiseWeenie said:

Who is the vendor?
The CEO's preteen nephew?

If anyone can actually find this out I will kiss them in their special place.

I'm sure they'd love to know that they're being sold out by their client.

[dev22]

This is hilarious.

[y4m]

May 14, 2012 14:47:22 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Irony? I posted this message on TN P&CE and it disappeared. ::lays head on desk:: I'm so done.

This is classic!

[meshaliuknits]

May 14, 2012 14:54:50 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

May 14, 2012 14:52:57 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

What the what? Is there a story here? Or did it just implode when everything else did?

It just disappeared during the change and wasn't put back. They told everyone to use the TB mod board.

"We broke it, but we're not gonna fix it." That's par for the course, isn't it?

I'm a little bummed there isn't a fantastic story behind it, though.

[broc]

I bet any one of us could hand code something less buggy and visually assaulting than the new layout from scratch in the amount of time it was on the locals. Of course, we'd have to be paid 500K/yr as XOXO's CTO.

lololol.

[debatethis]

May 14, 2012 14:43:10 GMT -5 eddy said:

The funny thing is I didn't even realize how many great options we were missing out on until we moved over here. Like the quick reply feature. LOVE IT. How many times did we wait 5 minutes to open up a new screen, type a post then wait another 5 minutes for it to post. If I don't want to post something fancy I just quick reply and bam never have to reload a page. I feel so liberated
So why can a website like this have all of these features but the nest can't figure it out?

EVERY forum functions like this (ok, not all of them, but the vast majority). Search functions, quick reply, codified rules - that's all old news. So is limiting the size of siggies so they're not ginormous, but whatever. TN IT is a bunch of dumb fuck computer science dropouts. (Or, basement dwelling noobs, like PP suggested).

Case in point: here's the rules on Penny Arcade (I think they'd fit in great over here, but that's a topic for another thread):
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This rule is both terribly simple to understand and terribly simple to follow. Acting like a dick on these forums, especially if you are new here, will bring no goodness your way. Acting civil and respectful will avoid 99% of the problems that anyone would ever run into on these forums.

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Don't make threads like...

I'm New!!!" - Man, we don't care. We get tons of new users every day; if they all made a thread, this place would be nothing but threads by new users.
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[dylanite]

Half assed accountability and half assed transparency = TN is an ass.