Post by lurkerlizzie on Jul 10, 2012 11:45:22 GMT -5
Ok, so I cannot figure out how sleep rape works. This makes me feel stupid and slightly anti-feminist. Does the man start having sex with you, and then you wake up, say NO and he continues? I guess I don't understand how you would sleep through someone having sex with you. I am assuming that you were not drugged prior to going to bed.
Some people just sleep heavier than others. I'm not sure what more I have to explain here.
ETA: Well, I guess I should also explain that there are likely some men out there who deliberately pull an Elmer Fudd on their wives in the hopes that she won't wake up in time to say no. AKA if I move very quietly, my dick will already be inside and she can't say no.
Yeah, this isn't clearing anything up for me, but maybe I just need to be moved around more for any kind of 'entry' to take place.
And what they're trying to say is some people would sleep through being repositioned for entry to take place and putting tab a in slot b without consent is rape. So if she sleeps through being moved around, and he sticks his thing in her thing without her waking up, she has not consented and WALLA RAPE
Really? You don't have any questions about how someone can have sex with someone else while she is sleeping?
Is she sleeping naked or is he taking her clothes off? What if you are a back sleeper? Does he just move your legs?
How do you not wake up? I am a deep sleeper - I sleep through alarms of all sort, I sleep through MH getting up and ready in the morning, etc. I'd like to think I'd wake up when my clothes came off or when when my body was being moved.
Really? You don't have any questions about how someone can have sex with someone else while she is sleeping?
Is she sleeping naked or is he taking her clothes off? What if you are a back sleeper? Does he just move your legs?
How do you not wake up? I am a deep sleeper - I sleep through alarms of all sort, I sleep through MH getting up and ready in the morning, etc. I'd like to think I'd wake up when my clothes came off or when when my body was being moved.
So basically you and OP just don't understand how someone can be a deep sleeper? I'm not sure how to explain that other than maybe saying it slowly?
Really? You don't have any questions about how someone can have sex with someone else while she is sleeping?
Is she sleeping naked or is he taking her clothes off? What if you are a back sleeper? Does he just move your legs?
How do you not wake up? I am a deep sleeper - I sleep through alarms of all sort, I sleep through MH getting up and ready in the morning, etc. I'd like to think I'd wake up when my clothes came off or when when my body was being moved.
I mean I don't get what's to question here. Sleep rape happens.
My H has rearranged me in the past, because I'm a covers hog. Once he had to move me around because I was playing piano on his face in the middle of a dream. I also sleep naked, and in odd positions... like with one knee bent with that foot flat on the bed, and the other foot on that knee, like I was sitting in a chair. Luckily, he isn't a sociopathic rapist.
Post by BieberMyBalls on Jul 10, 2012 12:14:00 GMT -5
When you're in a deep sleep, and someone wakes you up, are you automatically fully alert? Because I know when I'm woken up, I'm groggy as hell, and it takes me at least half a minute to process what's going on. I'm assuming this is probably what she means by waking up to him having sex with her. Oh, and OP? I'm glad you think this is a good subject to crack jokes about. You're a cunt. YW!
Really? You don't have any questions about how someone can have sex with someone else while she is sleeping?
Is she sleeping naked or is he taking her clothes off? What if you are a back sleeper? Does he just move your legs?
How do you not wake up? I am a deep sleeper - I sleep through alarms of all sort, I sleep through MH getting up and ready in the morning, etc. I'd like to think I'd wake up when my clothes came off or when when my body was being moved.
Congratulations, this is officially the DUMBEST FUCKING SHIT I've read on these boards. So what you're saying is, you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't worry, that wasn't lost on anyone.
what's your conclusion, then? That sleep rape cannot happen? That people are lying?
No, not at all! I was responding to someone saying how they were confused that the OP was confused. I was saying that there are things to have questions about.
Really? You don't have any questions about how someone can have sex with someone else while she is sleeping?
Is she sleeping naked or is he taking her clothes off? What if you are a back sleeper? Does he just move your legs?
How do you not wake up? I am a deep sleeper - I sleep through alarms of all sort, I sleep through MH getting up and ready in the morning, etc. I'd like to think I'd wake up when my clothes came off or when when my body was being moved.
Congratulations, this is officially the DUMBEST FUCKING SHIT I've read on these boards. So what you're saying is, you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't worry, that wasn't lost on anyone.
.:looks around:. How did I start getting flamed? How is that the dumbest thing you've read.
I AM SAYING THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT HAPPENS. I AM NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T THINK IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
Post by melindafelinda on Jul 10, 2012 12:25:37 GMT -5
I don't think being ignorant to the mechanics of it means she doesn't believe it happens or doesn't find it fucking horrible.
I'm shocked to know that there are women who might not wake up until it was over and I can't imagine how horribly traumatic that would be. But I'm not flippant about it. I just didn't know that happened. I always assumed when I had heard of this that the person woke up after a short time and were soon thereafter aware of what was happening.
All of these scenarios are horrific, but I was also ignorant about specifics.
Also, I don't think she was trying to minimize by making a dumb joke. She's probably just kind of stupid.