Post by hopecounts on May 14, 2014 14:49:17 GMT -5
As in this www.integratedlistening.com/ Anyone know anything about it? It has just come to our town and a fellow ASD mom was mentioning it. I'm rather skeptical but if it can't hurt we might consider it if it has any real use.
Post by hopecounts on May 14, 2014 15:13:52 GMT -5
Thanks. That's what I'm having trouble with I like peer reviewed studies showing the results and I can't find any for this. I am gathering the same thing that it works for some but not all. I would say 80% likelihood DD has some auditory processing issues based on how she mangles certain words and has a very hard time listening in loud group situations (once I speak up louder she does fine and her hearing has been tested every 6 months with no issues so I don't think it's that) so I lean towards it would likely help and certainly not hurt but I don't know. I'm not expecting it to help general stuff but if it helps with her ability to actually listen I'd be willing to try it.
Post by imojoebunny on May 15, 2014 17:01:16 GMT -5
We have done some "off the beaten track" therapies for DD. She has visual processing disorder, rather than auditory. Her auditory processing is very high, which is somewhat typical of kids who are weak in one area to be very strong in the other as they develop compensation skills.
I am in the camp that if we can afford them, and they are non-invasive, it is worth a shot. She currently goes to circus class, ice skating, and horseback because that works her body to cross the midpoint, which is suppose to improve coordination, which is poor because of visual processing (not the same as vision itself, much like auditory processing is not about actual seeing or hearing, but the way the brain responds to what is heard). We have done other more specific therapies like vision therapy, that are not well proven, but DD liked them. I don't know how much difference it makes, but it didn't make her abilities worse, and she is making steady progress, which she was not when we were doing nothing.
When she starts regular school, I would have her tested because there are classroom accommodation a that can make a big difference in her ability to learn if her auditory processing is very compromised. DD gets a few for her visual processing, along with tutoring to learn different methods for overcoming what her mind does not seem to be able to learn in the typical fashion. I don't know what those things are for auditory processing, but they exist, as I have skimmed over them in the 20 books I have read to try to get DD the right help.
Thanks. That's what I'm having trouble with I like peer reviewed studies showing the results and I can't find any for this. I am gathering the same thing that it works for some but not all. I would say 80% likelihood DD has some auditory processing issues based on how she mangles certain words and has a very hard time listening in loud group situations (once I speak up louder she does fine and her hearing has been tested every 6 months with no issues so I don't think it's that) so I lean towards it would likely help and certainly not hurt but I don't know. I'm not expecting it to help general stuff but if it helps with her ability to actually listen I'd be willing to try it.
I'm all about peer-reviewed gold standard therapy. I don't dabble in woo.
I'm not a fan of any listening program excepting Berard AIT. I'm skeptical of any of the ones with the cutesy names and the first person testimonials (Interactive Metronome, Brain Balance, Earobics, Fast ForWord.
ILS has one study- pending publication- with a whopping 15 kids in the study. You deserve better.
Auditory processing is an emerging skill for all kids who haven't hit puberty. If your is truly delayed, consider having a sound field installed. All kids perform better in a sound field situation.
auntie thanks that was kind of my feeling but wanted to see if anyone on here had experience with it or any real info.
We've not done it.
Some families in DS's old reading lab school had done some auditory programs and were disenchanted.
LIke a lot of kids on spectrum, DS's auditory processing was all over the place. His lab school did auditory training/listening drills as part of the day and also encouraged us to do less screen time and do books on tape and reading aloud.
We have used integrated listening therapy with both of our children. One with Attention Deficit challenges and one with Autism. We had almost immediate results with reduction in anxiety and decease to sensory over reactions. Sleep was better and transitions were better with the first few weeks. We lived in a rural area so we used an at home program. Based on the results I found with my children, I took the training and became certified so I could continue with additional programs and benefits. I am also a counselor so I began using it with my clients with various childhood mental health challenges and the results were impressive enough that the local school noticed and asked me to start several kids at their school on the program. It is now many years later and I now train others to use the ILS. As a parent and a clinician, I have been impressed with the results. I will say, while it has benefits when used, I personally see the best results come from families who use it more intensively ie 5-6 days a week for an hour a day. This would result in about 8 weeks of therapy or less depending on the program. Typically you would then take a break, then assess what goals you still have and possibly begin a second program. The treatment is specific to each person and the length/program is variable based and strengths and weaknesses. I would recommend you take one of their free webinares so you can make sense of it for yourself www.integratedlistening.com. Also there is a facebook parents page. Its a great place to read about their experiences: www.facebook.com/groups/iLsparentsgroup/ You will also find that there is quite a bit of solid science behind listening therapy and lots of exciting research completed using ILS specifically. Hope that helps!!!
I would caution against looking at results of non-personalized "listening therapy". My son's school used CDs and just sent them home saying they might help him focus. Sometimes they did but didn't have any lasting effects. Listening to classical music on a CD or your ipod is very, very different from the treated, personalized programs of therapautic listening therapy.
We did some sort of listening program w/ our OT. It involved 20min of headphones while playing 2x/day. It was intensive, but it seemed to help DS. He has SPD and loud/sudden noises scare him. I'm not sure of the brand of program, though.
This is a great way to desensitize a kid to noise.
It's not so great for things like CAPD, ASD, dyslexia, ADHD and all the other claims they make IMHO.