if Obama wins

[Deleted]

Do you think there will be greater talks of secession?

One of my friends who is a lifelong southerner and fairly liberal fears there will be violence if Obama wins again.

[pixy0stix]

No. People are too damn lazy to care.

I remember these discussions from the last election cycle. Nothing happened then, nothing will happen now.

[NitaX]

Violence against whom? As much as I hated GWB winning a second term, I for dayum sure didn't think I needed to riot.

[UMaineTeach]

I don't think there will be any greater talk then when Bush won again and everyone said they would GBCUSA to Canada.

blowing hot air

[MrsDL]

Jul 18, 2012 10:37:53 GMT -5 @septimus said:

Do you think there will be greater talks of sucession?

One of my friends who is a lifelong southerner and fairly liberal fears there will be violence if Obama wins again.

Why would there be any greater chance of violence this time as compared to last time? Frankly, I could see a great chance of some shit going down if he loses.

[emmybean]

Is the south really that far behind on current events? Have they been living in a bubble where McCain is president? Why secede at a second term?

[marie427]

Jul 18, 2012 10:40:01 GMT -5 UMaineTeach said:

I don't think there will be any greater talk then when Bush won again and everyone said they would GBCUSA to Canada.

blowing hot air

Ditto. It's all talk.

[laladypoet]

I heard the president got a blowie from some chick named Monica, is what I heard.

/Texas

[JLN]

I hope so.

eta: I mean I hope there's talk of secession. It only hurts their political futures in the long run and takes the validity out of their "rah-rah-Americuh".

[ChillyMcFreeze]

I was slightly less annoyed when GWB won the second time because the alternative was Kerry. I see the same thing happening here with Mr. Vanilla, Mitt. If there was a more charismatic alternative, you might see more uproar. Oh, and people are fucking lazy.

[teflep]

People are too lazy and dumb (and hot) to care. The job outlook will be dismal, taxes probably up, etc and whatever. More dysfunction and fodder for debate to get to 2016. Or, we'll all be dead because the Mayans were right. Whatev.

[emilyj]

Please. I read an article the other day that said despite all the media coverage, 45% of Americans didn't know what the health care vote was about. 45%.

If people are that uninformed about the biggest political news story of the day, I HIGHLY doubt they can get their acts together to actually do anything besides sit and bitch.

[KateAggie]

I'm loling that anyone even thinks that's a possibility. People really think that? Really?

[heightsyankee]

As I sit here in the heart of secession land, I say no fucking way. I mean, the secessionist movement has been afoot in Texas for a while ever, and it still hasn't happened. There is no way some random Southern state is going to get their act together enough to do it.

[bqbride]

Jul 18, 2012 10:39:43 GMT -5 NitaX said:

Violence against whom? As much as I hated GWB winning a second term, I for dayum sure didn't think I needed to riot.

Seriously. I was confused, depressed, embarrassed, and filled with rage, but still felt no compunction to riot in the streets.

[Deleted]

I wanted to riot after gwb and I wasn't American

[kadams767]

I don't know. There are a few states I wouldn't mind getting rid of...

[dylanite]

The vitriol between the parties doesn't convince me there'd be riots with either outcome, but it does make me kinda sometimes yearn for the comfort in knowing certain states aren't part of my country.

[aurora]

Even though we're* all up in arms on the internet, we are really quite complacent as a nation because we really do have it pretty good, all things considered. I don't predict violence or a succession attempt.

*by "we," I mean Americans as a whole, not CE&P-ers specifically.

[ESF]

I think the SF bay area should secede from the union. I claim everything from San Jose to the north border of Sonoma County, east along Napa and Contra Costa. It would be total utopia.

[emisi]

The biggest protest movement of the past year was probably Kony 2012. I mean, look at it. The only reason it was big was because people didn't have to get off their asses to do anything, just post on the computer.

People are too damn lazy to secede. Not gonna happen.

[dylanite]

Jul 18, 2012 17:20:02 GMT -5 ESF said:

I think the SF bay area should secede from the union. I claim everything from San Jose to the north border of Sonoma County, east along Napa and Contra Costa. It would be total utopia.

I'd like the USA to become the UCA: the United Coasts of America. Excepting, of course, Texas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and South Virginia. Of course.

Colorado and Illinois are cool tho (lake shores count as coasts?). Maybe Pennsylvania. For the Steelers alone. Oh ya, no issues with Vermont either.

[julief]

No, but I wonder what a second Obama term would bring in terms of policy. I know he's for spending, but in my opinion he hasn't really broadcast a clear vision. Yeah, I know there might be things on his website, but in terms of a vision clearly articulated in ads and such, it's just not there.

I guess it's irrelevant, though, because a Republican House and perhaps Senate will be there to block anything like cap-and-trade that's too beyond the pale.

I wonder what the "big idea" is for the next term, though... Stimulus 2.0?

[julief]

"I'm loling that anyone even thinks that's a possibility. People really think that? Really?"

Katie, of course it's not likely, but it provides for many morally superior musings about those dumb-ass southerners, those crazy, stupid Republicans.

I think the way I answered it was a lot more substantive, talking about what OBAMA himself would do.

[msmerymac]

Jul 18, 2012 17:26:55 GMT -5 julief said:

No, but I wonder what a second Obama term would bring in terms of policy. I know he's for spending, but in my opinion he hasn't really broadcast a clear vision. Yeah, I know there might be things on his website, but in terms of a vision clearly articulated in ads and such, it's just not there.

I guess it's irrelevant, though, because a Republican House and perhaps Senate will be there to block anything like cap-and-trade that's too beyond the pale.

I wonder what the "big idea" is for the next term, though... Stimulus 2.0?

*sigh* probably because most policy can't be reduced to 30 second sound bytes.

[heightsyankee]

Jul 18, 2012 17:26:55 GMT -5 julief said:

No, but I wonder what a second Obama term would bring in terms of policy. I know he's for spending, but in my opinion he hasn't really broadcast a clear vision. Yeah, I know there might be things on his website, but in terms of a vision clearly articulated in ads and such, it's just not there.

I guess it's irrelevant, though, because a Republican House and perhaps Senate will be there to block anything like cap-and-trade that's too beyond the pale.

I wonder what the "big idea" is for the next term, though... Stimulus 2.0?

And can you tell me what Romney has proposed, other than that winner of an economic policy called "trickle down?"

[MrsDL]

Jul 18, 2012 19:32:20 GMT -5 heightsyankee said:

Jul 18, 2012 17:26:55 GMT -5 julief said:

No, but I wonder what a second Obama term would bring in terms of policy. I know he's for spending, but in my opinion he hasn't really broadcast a clear vision. Yeah, I know there might be things on his website, but in terms of a vision clearly articulated in ads and such, it's just not there.

I guess it's irrelevant, though, because a Republican House and perhaps Senate will be there to block anything like cap-and-trade that's too beyond the pale.

I wonder what the "big idea" is for the next term, though... Stimulus 2.0?

And can you tell me what Romney has proposed, other than that winner of an economic policy called "trickle down?"

[caden]

Jul 18, 2012 19:36:31 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

Jul 18, 2012 19:32:20 GMT -5 heightsyankee said:

And can you tell me what Romney has proposed, other than that winner of an economic policy called "trickle down?"

Yes, his 87 page economic plan is almost completely blank except for a few "trickle down"s in various fonts and colors.

And no I don't think anyone will riot.

[JLN]

Jul 18, 2012 17:20:02 GMT -5 ESF said:

I think the SF bay area should secede from the union. I claim everything from San Jose to the north border of Sonoma County, east along Napa and Contra Costa. It would be total utopia.

Just keep stretching it up I five to N Portland. We have the good beer and weed. We'll need the tax revenue.