You don't think that, if a business fails, society doesn't end up paying for it, in part?
Losses get written off on taxes.
Out of work employees become eligible for government benefits.
Public services of all kinds (say, public schools take previously-privately-educated kids) pick up the slack.
I am not sure I am following...society steps in with services that were paid for by said employees of a failed company. Public school is paid for by all, even if not utilizing the service, so a spot technically is there should a formerly private-enrolled student comes to enroll. I am not following this train of thought.
You don't think that, if a business fails, society doesn't end up paying for it, in part?
Losses get written off on taxes.
Out of work employees become eligible for government benefits.
Public services of all kinds (say, public schools take previously-privately-educated kids) pick up the slack.
I am not sure I am following...society steps in with services that were paid for by said employees of a failed company. Public school is paid for by all, even if not utilizing the service, so a spot technically is there should a formerly private-enrolled student comes to enroll. I am not following this train of thought.
If I find out from this thread that I can stop paying school taxes now that my kids are in private school, I'm gonna party like it's 2007.
This is where I'm stuck and I've been trying to think how I want to word what I'm trying to say.
How I'm reading this, is if a business is successful, the Owner had "help." However it's defined - roads, infrastructure, educated employees, utilities, a mentor that inspired you, whatever. So if the Owner succeeds, he/she didn't get there on their own. Society helped them. Credit should be acknowledged to all. The mentor, the services provided by society helped the Owner succeed.
But if an Owner fails, how did the mentor and society factor into their failure?
I guess I'm trying to compare apples to apples the role "help" has in success vs. failure.
You don't think that, if a business fails, society doesn't end up paying for it, in part?
Losses get written off on taxes.
Out of work employees become eligible for government benefits.
Public services of all kinds (say, public schools take previously-privately-educated kids) pick up the slack.
I have yet to figure out how edit quotes in proboards so excuse that part please.
You're not understanding what I'm trying to compare. I'm comparing resources XYZ that contributes to success. Not XYZ when successful and ABC when it fails.
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."
Unless the business owner is in the business of building roads and bridges, is what he said incorrect?
THANK YOU! Context and proper quoting are usually helpful. Unless you *want* to misconstrue someone's words in order to rile up your base, that is...
I don't know. Seems like the main 'riling up the base' was egregious and proven-to-be-false red meat about outsourcing, Romney's felonious activities, and the like. Just look at Fact Check.
But guess what, even that didn't work, as recent polls show beyond a doubt. Tied in Virginia, tiny lead in New Mexico, Romney up one nationally in the CBS poll...
Class warfare attacks are providing diminishing returns. Time to turn the __ing record over.
I am not sure I am following...society steps in with services that were paid for by said employees of a failed company. Public school is paid for by all, even if not utilizing the service, so a spot technically is there should a formerly private-enrolled student comes to enroll. I am not following this train of thought.
If I find out from this thread that I can stop paying school taxes now that my kids are in private school, I'm gonna party like it's 2007.
If you could make yourself a corporation and donate to a scholarship fund that, in turn, gives the scholarship to your child, you will get a tax credit. So, kind of
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."
Unless the business owner is in the business of building roads and bridges, is what he said incorrect?
THANK YOU! Context and proper quoting are usually helpful. Unless you *want* to misconstrue someone's words in order to rile up your base, that is...
You are so 200late.
It is still a bad quote, regardless of the entire quote there. He is an amazing orator and this fell very flat, regardless of how we want to view his meaning.
Am I the only person who has no idea what's being discussed anymore? I need caffeine.
Lol I thought it was just me.
All I can say is that I knew what Obama was saying and what he meant, but that particular sentence was worded poorly and in a heated election like this, the speechwriter should have known better.