Is your DH even qualified for the position? You keep talking about how it would be so amazing for him, but have never actually said that he has the skills necessary to fulfil the role.
And just lol to the pay cut. This is what's going to happen: You are going to offer that they hire your DH and that you will take a paycut/switch roles/whatever. They are going to laugh you out of the office, hire whoever they want, and say "Well you offered a paycut, so we did just that to get the new guy the salary he wanted. Thanks!"
Guys, I was just chosen for a new job! I was out running errands, and some guy in a trench coat came out of an alley and told me that I will report for duty on Monday AM. Pretty sure this is going to be amazing.
wow that sounds coveted!
Yeah. The only drawback is I heard that 05heel's husband had to take a 50% paycut and also start working nights. Also, he's not allowed to use the door anymore and has to enter and exit the building through the drains like Tim Robbins in Shawshank. But, free healthcare, so that's good.
Guys, I was just chosen for a new job! I was out running errands, and some guy in a trench coat came out of an alley and told me that I will report for duty on Monday AM. Pretty sure this is going to be amazing.
wow that sounds coveted!
For sure. I couldn't turn it down. Unless of course I never wanted to see my family again.
Post by schitzengiggles on Jul 31, 2014 10:43:38 GMT -5
I work in a super unconventional workplace, where half of the managers are childhood friends of the owner. Even I came into my position due to "who you know" (Owner is my SIL's FIL). DH does freelance stuff for the company, too. My boss likes it this way and has somehow been very successful doing it this way forever.
But even I am giving this a gigantic side-eye. I don't get it.
Let DH apply like anyone would. Maybe mention that your DH applied and is looking forward to a chance to discuss the opportunity. Leave it at that.
i thought your op said you were going to talk to your boss today?
also - can you tell us what kind of work you do? it may help to substantiate your reasoning.
I was going to, but I need to have my DH work on his resume and since he's at work, I'll just talk to my boss tomorrow.
I work at a labor union.
based on this statement, have you ran this all past your dh? What were you going to go to your boss with to "back up" your idea that he would be a good fit for the position? If you really thought this through, having a presentable resume when asking for a job would be priority #1.
and I say this as someone who works for her dh at an unconventional company (not family owned), if your boss already said no once, I'm thinking this is a horrible idea.
i thought your op said you were going to talk to your boss today?
also - can you tell us what kind of work you do? it may help to substantiate your reasoning.
I was going to, but I need to have my DH work on his resume and since he's at work, I'll just talk to my boss tomorrow.
I work at a labor union.
Ah this makes 100% sense for a labor union. DH works at a labor union and as I was reading your post I thought "this all sounds very familar" ha ha. Do you work for a national or local?
you were going to have this talk without his resume originally?
what in the hell.
It's not something people turn in resumes for. But, maybe by doing one, it'll look good. I don't know.
You literally usually just get picked for the job. The only requirement is that you've been a good Union member. They go from working in the trade to more of an "office" type job. It's 100% on the job training, but sure, you have to know the industry, which he does.
Post by pantsparty on Jul 31, 2014 10:48:53 GMT -5
Companies don't hire desperate candidates, and your approach would definitely cast your H in that light. You need to ask your boss about this in a professional and detached way, and let your H take care of convincing him of his qualifications.
I was going to, but I need to have my DH work on his resume and since he's at work, I'll just talk to my boss tomorrow.
I work at a labor union.
Ah this makes 100% sense for a labor union. DH works at a labor union and as I was reading your post I thought "this all sounds very familar" ha ha. Do you work for a national or local?
No lie, my H used to work for a 30-year-old multimillionaire whose dad was head of a trade union in NJ. The kid opened up a business in my state to be closer to his grandfather who was serving out his remaining years in a nearby federal prison.
Ah this makes 100% sense for a labor union. DH works at a labor union and as I was reading your post I thought "this all sounds very familar" ha ha. Do you work for a national or local?
More regional.
Ah, DH works for a national one. But yeah, the hiring process is weird. The last job they opened for all of 4 hours and it was tailored specific to like one person. They also have a LOT of spouse/family working there. It would also be a place where he would have a conversation to his boss about hiring me if I wanted to work there. So I get that.
you were going to have this talk without his resume originally?
what in the hell.
It's not something people turn in resumes for. But, maybe by doing one, it'll look good. I don't know.
You literally usually just get picked for the job. The only requirement is that you've been a good Union member. They go from working in the trade to more of an "office" type job. It's 100% on the job training, but sure, you have to know the industry, which he does.
I'm going to go with yes, it will look good to have a list of his qualifications available when he is trying to get a job he may need to prove he is qualified for.
you were going to have this talk without his resume originally?
what in the hell.
It's not something people turn in resumes for. But, maybe by doing one, it'll look good. I don't know.
You literally usually just get picked for the job. The only requirement is that you've been a good Union member. They go from working in the trade to more of an "office" type job. It's 100% on the job training, but sure, you have to know the industry, which he does.
ETA: TOUGH LOVE WARNING
Okay so ... they know your husband, they know he's available to be "plucked" from the trade into an office job and they haven't "plucked" him. Got it.
He either needs to make himself more available or flat out ask his boss (who is different from your boss? I'm a little confused, but I'm assuming that you both work in the same trade but in different areas?) how to make himself more appealing for these positions in which someone is basically "the chosen one" without applying. It truly, TRULY sounds like he needs to be the one to take the initiative here, not you.
If you have an EXCELLENT relationship with your boss, you can still mention that he would be interested in the opportunity, but I really would not stick your neck out any farther than that.
Ah, DH works for a national one. But yeah, the hiring process is weird. The last job they opened for all of 4 hours and it was tailored specific to like one person. They also have a LOT of spouse/family working there. It would also be a place where he would have a conversation to his boss about hiring me if I wanted to work there. So I get that.
Thank you. I still plan on talking with my boss myself first, but I'm going to be more professional about it, like people here have advised. He won't know what hit him!
My work BFF just got hired by our national and I'm so incredibly jealous. While we're based in DC, she gets to work from home. She said even they are WAY more professional than we are. Hell, we didn't even have an HR until a few months ago and even so, it's not like she does anything. You think she has ANYTHING to do with this whole hiring process? Nope. It's 100% my boss.
Ah, DH works for a national one. But yeah, the hiring process is weird. The last job they opened for all of 4 hours and it was tailored specific to like one person. They also have a LOT of spouse/family working there. It would also be a place where he would have a conversation to his boss about hiring me if I wanted to work there. So I get that.
I don't think people really are questioning this, and/or if this were just a "what's the best way to approach my boss", our reactions would be MUCH different.
But there is absolutely nothing you can say that will convince me that BRIBING YOUR BOSS by totally selling yourself short in order to hire your DH is actually a good idea.
Post by sawyerthedestroyer on Jul 31, 2014 11:05:31 GMT -5
One time while we were checking out at Home Depot H asked if they were hiring because his wife was looking for a job and I was standing right there. When we left I laid into him. If he went to his boss and asked him to give me a job I would kill him. But he knows better now.
This is a TERRIBLE idea. If the only way to get your H hired is you take a pay cut, y'all need to figure something else out. That's not even touching the question of what happens to your job security for both you and him to be underneath your "unpredictable" boss.
No lie, my H used to work for a 30-year-old multimillionaire whose dad was head of a trade union in NJ. The kid opened up a business in my state to be closer to his grandfather who was serving out his remaining years in a nearby federal prison.
My H saw nothing untoward about any of this.
well then what happened? You've got me on pins and needles here.
Oh, nothing. He eventually moved on to another job. Business is still there. Grandpa is still in prison.
Is your DH even qualified for the position? You keep talking about how it would be so amazing for him, but have never actually said that he has the skills necessary to fulfil the role.
Based on everything that OP has written, this is the least of the union's concerns.
Here's the thing - it sounds like you already tried to pimp your H out for this position. Boss didn't take the bait. He's obviously aware that your H is generally interested, but has decided to interview other candidates w/o reaching out to your H or really mentioning your H to you at all. That means that your Boss probably doesn't want your H. I'm not saying that you shouldn't reiterate his interest or pass along his resume, but you need to do it in such a way as to avoid the awkwardness that is inevitably going to ensue when Boss says "no" (again). Keep it positive, let him know H is very interested in the opportunity and then shut up. Do not beg. Do not offer to reduce your salary. Do not bring it up more than once.
I'm just imagining what I'd do if my assistant did this to me and...just...no...
Post by RoxMonster on Jul 31, 2014 11:48:46 GMT -5
I'm so glad you posted about this here instead of just doing it.
I would still probably want my DH to handle this himself, like make the initial contact himself. My H once applied for an open position in my school district a few years back. He called/e-mailed (I can't remember which) the superintendent (who he had met a couple times before) and told him he was interested, qualified, etc. and attached his resume/cover letter. He did mention I work in the district. But he handled it all himself.
Even if your situation is different and you would like to follow up with your boss yourself, I still think it might be a good idea for your H to make the initial contact. Can you pass on your boss's email or phone # and your H can contact and say why he is interested/qualified and ask how he should proceed from there (like where to send resume, etc?)
you were going to have this talk without his resume originally?
what in the hell.
It's not something people turn in resumes for. But, maybe by doing one, it'll look good. I don't know.
You literally usually just get picked for the job. The only requirement is that you've been a good Union member. They go from working in the trade to more of an "office" type job. It's 100% on the job training, but sure, you have to know the industry, which he does.
I haven't read beyond this. I understand the resume thing. Dh is union and I think he'd laugh if I asked if he had a resume to give me tonight. He's been where he is now, going on 20 years. He's highly trained, well educated and good at what he does, but it's (typically) an extremely secure job, so he has exactly 0 reasons to have a current resume.
I can't say I understand the taking a pay cut part, but I know from the 15 years I've been with him and hearing various things about union environment, if anyone in his union went to the boss and offered a friggin paycut in exchange for their spouse getting a job, I seriously cannot even imagine the backlash from fellow union members. Pay grades and fair and equitable (based on contract language) distribution of over time, basically all things $$ are taken super seriously and if anyone was selling the value of a member's job short (ie pay cut), I just can't even imagine.
I hope I've either misread your post or just truly don't understand what you're trying to do here, because from a union member standpoint , how I currently understand this, it's poor "union member" behavior.
Good luck I hope however you handle it it works out in everyone's best interest.
Here's the thing - it sounds like you already tried to pimp your H out for this position. Boss didn't take the bait. He's obviously aware that your H is generally interested, but has decided to interview other candidates w/o reaching out to your H or really mentioning your H to you at all. That means that your Boss probably doesn't want your H. I'm not saying that you shouldn't reiterate his interest or pass along his resume, but you need to do it in such a way as to avoid the awkwardness that is inevitably going to ensue when Boss says "no" (again). Keep it positive, let him know H is very interested in the opportunity and then shut up. Do not beg. Do not offer to reduce your salary. Do not bring it up more than once.
I'm just imagining what I'd do if my assistant did this to me and...just...no...
This is where I'm at with it. He knows your H is available and hasn't mentioned it. I'd definitely bring it up again, once, casually, but I would not do more than that. Your H is probably not going to get this job. If this is the kind of job he wants, he should start taking steps professionally to be seen in that light.
ETA: Your extreme anxiety over this was your gut telling you it was a bad idea. Gotta learn to trust your gut, girl!