Yes, let's talk about the Jacksons

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I was listening to the Doug Banks show and I guess Paris slapped Janet and told her to get the fuck out of their house (her words, not mine) because Janet tried to take Paris's cell phone since Paris is tweeting family business like a mofo.

[pixy0stix]

Backstory?

[casmgn]

Latest from people.com:

Michael Jackson's nephew TJ Jackson – the son of Tito – was named temporary guardian of the late singer's three children Wednesday amid allegations family matriarch Katherine is being held against her will.

"This is not a power play by TJ Jackson," L.A. Superior Court Judge Mitchell L. Beckloff said at an emergency hearing. "This is based on the allegation that Katherine Jackson is being prevented from acting as guardian."

The hearing is the latest dramatic development in the recent family crisis enveloping the famous musical clan.

At stake are hundreds of millions of dollars and, according to some, the welfare of Jackson's three children and his 82-year-old mother who has been their guardian since Michael's 2009 death at age 50.

A clear understanding of the whereabouts and condition of Katherine Jackson has been clouded by conflicting statements and allegations between various family members, including Jackson's siblings. Oldest daughter Paris Jackson, 14, has fumed on Twitter about the treatment of her grandmother.

In court Wednesday, TJ's attorney, Charles A. Schultz, called the situation dire as he explained the move for temporary guardianship for the 34-year-old TJ.

"There's immediate harm to the minor children, there was a potential abduction at the house, in addition to a phone call from Katherine last night that gave us real concern," said Schultz. "We are looking at this as a Band-Aid until Miss Jackson returns or re-establishes contact with the kids."

Added Katherine's attorney Sandra Ribera: "I have reason to believe she's being held against her will."

Judge Beckloff made clear he was temporarily suspending Katherine's powers as guardian "not based on any wrongdoing on her part," and ordered that Debbie Rowe, "who is the mother to at least some of the kids" and singer Diana Ross be notified of the ruling. Ross was named in Michael Jackson's will as successor guardian.

TJ was also given the authority to hire and fire any staff members at the family compound.

[summer]

I am so confused by all of this!!! Who's holding Katherine? Normally I would side with Janet cuz I assumed she was sorta "normal" (for a Jackson anyway), but now I don't know. Maybe I should be on Team Paris? I'm lost.

[pixy0stix]

They're all crazy. Every single one of them.

[casmgn]

Jul 25, 2012 16:46:30 GMT -5 summer said:

I am so confused by all of this!!! Who's holding Katherine? Normally I would side with Janet cuz I assumed she was sorta "normal" (for a Jackson anyway), but now I don't know. Maybe I should be on Team Paris? I'm lost.

Janet, Reggie, Jermaine, and Randy. Katherine is supposedly at Reggie's house "resting on doctor's orders", but Paris has not been allowed to speak with her in over a week. And coincidentally, those four are contesting MJ's will.

[copzgirl1171]

So if she is being held against her will and they know it why isn't anyone investigating it? I guess the nuts don't fall far from the tree.

[msmerymac]

Jul 25, 2012 16:41:40 GMT -5 toledo said:

I read a headline today that the kids were removed from the grandmother's care.

I don't know who to root for here. Aren't they all pretty much crazy?

Oh. Maybe I should have mentioned this is the reality TV thread, but this isn't really reality TV...

An old coworker of mine was best friends with Jackie Jackson's daughter. Jackie is the oldest. He left the Jackson 5 when Randy joined, I think. So he wasn't exposed to as much of Joe's crazy famewhoring as the rest of the kids. And his kids are relatively normal. He has 2. Like, they aren't famous, aren't seeking fame, hold jobs where they earn their own money (for the family businesses, but still). This company I worked for was very small (7 people) and said coworker was the only one close to my age, so we would sometimes go to lunch together, and I met Michael and Janet's niece a few times. She was really nice. Totally looked like a Jackson (more like Janet than LaToya, thank god).

Soooo that's my story about how, possibly, SOME of the Jacksons are normal. As normal as they can be. It's what enables me to hold out hope in cases like these.

Tito's son, TJ, was in that R&B group 3T. With his other 2 sons. I have no idea what he's up to now. Haven't heard from him since 1993ish!

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Jul 25, 2012 16:51:17 GMT -5 @copzgirl1171 said:

So if she is being held against her will and they know it why isn't anyone investigating it? I guess the nuts don't fall far from the tree.

Well the four holding her say she isn't being held against her will, that she is just resting. I imagine that the FBI is going to have to get involved though, especially now that the other siblings are expressing concern now, not just Paris.

[summer]

Those 4 need money? How they gonna kidnap their own mama? Again, I feel like Dave Chappelle wrote this. I want to read Paris' memoir 10 years from now.

[copzgirl1171]

I don't understand how there is that kind of money between them all. Didn't Michael mooch off of Princes and other stars?

[casmgn]

Jul 25, 2012 16:56:33 GMT -5 @copzgirl1171 said:

I don't understand how there is that kind of money between them all. Didn't Michael mooch off of Princes and other stars?

From what I understand, the executors (who those four are accusing of being crooks) have excelled at the handling of MJ's estate and have been able to generate a lot of income.

[msmerymac]

That article is hilarious for 2 reasons:

1) TJ's attorney is named Charles Schultz.

2) "Judge Beckloff made clear he was temporarily suspending Katherine's powers as guardian "not based on any wrongdoing on her part," and ordered that Debbie Rowe, "who is the mother to at least some of the kids" and singer Diana Ross be notified of the ruling. Ross was named in Michael Jackson's will as successor guardian."

It's like, "Uh, Debbie Rowe gave birth to at least one of these children. We're not sure which one(s). Possibly several? Allegedly?"

And, of course, Diana Ross. WTF.

[heyjude]

Team Paris!

[copzgirl1171]

I don't understand how a woman can be held against her will and people know it and everyone is just shrugging their shoulders.

Not gonna lie, if I was a member of that family I would write myself a fat check and book a flight and the last thing those nutters would see of my would be my middle finger. Peace out freaks

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I say they give those babies to Diana Ross, ffs. Her kids are normal, right?? Mama Jackson probably doesn't have long for this world and the rest of them are AWbags from hell.

And Janet don't know nothin' bout raising no babies.

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Blanket always looks stunned. I guess it would feel bright walking around without a length of cotton gauze over your face.

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Jul 25, 2012 16:49:04 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

They're all crazy. Every single one of them.

This. I've tried to understand the story but since every participant is crazy, I just can't get it.

And I suspect if you find a sane Jackson, they're still a money grubbing Jackson so...yeah, still distasteful.

And flame away, but I get the feeling Paris Jackson is one of those kids who would have benefitted from a spanking or two.

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I think Paris sounds a bit like a self absorbed little hosebeast but who wasn't at 14? I don't think that's indicative of how she was raised as much as her current, unstable circumstances.

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Katherine is 82. Is that kind of the way of being that age. I'm pretty sure DH's grandma would argue she's been held against her will at various points since she's losing it and all.

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Jul 25, 2012 21:13:10 GMT -5 @soudesafinado said:

Yeah. I think it's telling that MJ designated his mom and then Diana Ross skipping past all his brothers and sisters, cousins etc. Mama Katherine or Diana. He might have had more sense than we thought.

I'd have to disagree with that. Mama Katherine raised all those cray cray kids and let Joe beat them, if you believe Michael. Why in the world would Michael feel his kids would be safe with her? Crazy.

[NitaX]

Jul 25, 2012 21:24:32 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

Blanket always looks stunned. I guess it would feel bright walking around without a length of cotton gauze over your face.

/DEAD.
:-( :-( :-(

[summer]

Here's what Ms. Gladys Knight had to say about the situation:

It’s drama, that’s what it is. If you lived up under the microscope as this family does, everybody has dysfunctionality in their families, either one way or the other. See, I’m from the south and [we] was raised in that southern way. You have to understand Paris is what, 14? How old is Janet? Who’s the one who tries to direct the other one here? And I would think that it’s a good thing she let’s Paris know who she is. She is a Jackson, she shouldn’t be putting the business out there like that. Cause people read into whatever they want to read into, that’s how they get the drama. So, she’s just trying to protect her, in a way. But if she [Paris] called me that, she wouldn’t have any teeth...You respect your elders.

www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/07/25/gladys-knight-paris-jackson-family-drama_n_1703919.html?icid=hp_black-voices_popular_art