I'm not a fan. Mostly because I want to have fun picking out their outfits for school every day. Even when they are 12. They will let me, right? Don't tell me any different! Lol.
Really though, I never had them growing up and I wouldn't have wanted them for myself. If their school had them though I wouldn't get upset and complain or anything. I just have never really heard of a public school having them in my area, so I'd be a bit surprised.
Do any schools around you have them? I only remember Catherine McCauley doing uniforms. The other private schools (Berwick, Fryeburg, Cheverus, Waynflete, Etc) didn't as far as I remember, and definitely no public schools.
I'm not a fan. Mostly because I want to have fun picking out their outfits for school every day. Even when they are 12. They will let me, right? Don't tell me any different! Lol.
Really though, I never had them growing up and I wouldn't have wanted them for myself. If their school had them though I wouldn't get upset and complain or anything. I just have never really heard of a public school having them in my area, so I'd be a bit surprised.
Do any schools around you have them? I only remember Catherine McCauley doing uniforms. The other private schools (Berwick, Fryeburg, Cheverus, Waynflete, Etc) didn't as far as I remember, and definitely no public schools.
No public schools. St. Dom's is close to me, and they have uniforms but it's private.
In theory, I like the idea of uniforms. I think navy jumpers with pleated skirts are super cute. I think dress codes are often vague and easy to abuse, so I'm less of a fan. Also, I hate polo shirts on girls. So, if a uniform doesn't include polo shirts, it's OK with me.
Now then, everyone knows I homeschool, right?
I don't like the idea that H could be told to walk down the hall with one finger up or face consequences. I don't like that level of control being placed on kids- that's not self regulation, that's getting to where you subconsciously do something that doesn't really make any sense for your actual situation. That being said, H knows how to walk calmly and softly with her hands behind her back. She learned it in the liquor isle of the grocery store.
I'm also the type of mom that thinks if you aren't skinning your knee and tearing a hole in something at least once a month, you aren't living right. We would do school in the woods every day if we could. So, having to keep a uniform free of stains and rips would be absurd. Of course, most school days don't really offer enough opportunities to get messy, but that's a whole other issue.
In theory, I like the idea of uniforms. I think navy jumpers with pleated skirts are super cute. I think dress codes are often vague and easy to abuse, so I'm less of a fan. Also, I hate polo shirts on girls. So, if a uniform doesn't include polo shirts, it's OK with me.
Now then, everyone knows I homeschool, right?
I don't like the idea that H could be told to walk down the hall with one finger up or face consequences. I don't like that level of control being placed on kids- that's not self regulation, that's getting to where you subconsciously do something that doesn't really make any sense for your actual situation. That being said, H knows how to walk calmly and softly with her hands behind her back. She learned it in the liquor isle of the grocery store.
I'm also the type of mom that thinks if you aren't skinning your knee and tearing a hole in something at least once a month, you aren't living right. We would do school in the woods every day if we could. So, having to keep a uniform free of stains and rips would be absurd. Of course, most school days don't really offer enough opportunities to get messy, but that's a whole other issue.
Who said there were consequences for not holding a finger up? I'm sure if a child flipped the bird for the finger there might be one.
In theory, I like the idea of uniforms. I think navy jumpers with pleated skirts are super cute. I think dress codes are often vague and easy to abuse, so I'm less of a fan. Also, I hate polo shirts on girls. So, if a uniform doesn't include polo shirts, it's OK with me.
Now then, everyone knows I homeschool, right?
I don't like the idea that H could be told to walk down the hall with one finger up or face consequences. I don't like that level of control being placed on kids- that's not self regulation, that's getting to where you subconsciously do something that doesn't really make any sense for your actual situation. That being said, H knows how to walk calmly and softly with her hands behind her back. She learned it in the liquor isle of the grocery store.
I'm also the type of mom that thinks if you aren't skinning your knee and tearing a hole in something at least once a month, you aren't living right. We would do school in the woods every day if we could. So, having to keep a uniform free of stains and rips would be absurd. Of course, most school days don't really offer enough opportunities to get messy, but that's a whole other issue.
Who said there were consequences for not holding a finger up? I'm sure if a child flipped the bird for the finger there might be one.
No one specifically said there would be consequences. But, I'm sure if a child repeatedly refused to do it, they would get a time out or something.
It just seems silly to me. No running in the halls makes sense- running is loud enough to distract people in the classrooms, and there is a good chance of bumping in to someone and getting hurt. Hands behind your back in a knife factory makes sense, as a reminder that knives are sharp and you really don't need to touch anything. Holding up a finger doesn't make sense.
I admit, my tolerance for rules like that is really low. I get how measures of control like that are needed for classroom management of large groups, but it's not the reality I want for my kids. Hence, the homeschooling.
The reason they do it is because it makes the kid think about what they are doing rather than perfomring a task mindlessly. During morning assembly at Dylan's school, if they get too loud or talky, the principal will shout 'class class' and everyone is supposed to stop talking and raise their hands and shout 'yes yes'. It is a way of getting their attention and making them think and focus. Perhaps it doesn't jive with your beliefs and that is okay but it does make sense as a way of controlling the masses.
Consistent finger holding up seems a little strange and I personally feel like those are things that don't last for more than a few minutes at a time - probably during classroom changes - in order to prevent chaos. I can remember that, in our 5th grade class, whenever we changed rooms, we had to get into two lines and hold hands. To me they just seem like different ways to keep order and not at all harmful.
Correct. It's when the kids walk to the library or music room while other classes are in session, fire drills, etc.
Post by spaghetticat on Apr 17, 2015 20:31:27 GMT -5
I don't know if we are beyond this now, but I teach at a middle school with a pretty large income disparity. This is embarrassing, but *i* often feel awkward because I feel like I don't look fashionable enough and feel that some of the students are looking down on me. I can't imagine being 13 and having to deal with that.
We have a dress code, but it gets dicey sometimes. When a girl is wearing pants that are too tight, a shirt that shows too much cleavage, shorts that are too short, etc., we often have parents yelling at us for noticing or saying that's all they can afford so how dare we make their child change. I would absolutely love to have uniforms.
The reason they do it is because it makes the kid think about what they are doing rather than perfomring a task mindlessly. During morning assembly at Dylan's school, if they get too loud or talky, the principal will shout 'class class' and everyone is supposed to stop talking and raise their hands and shout 'yes yes'. It is a way of getting their attention and making them think and focus. Perhaps it doesn't jive with your beliefs and that is okay but it does make sense as a way of controlling the masses.
Consistent finger holding up seems a little strange and I personally feel like those are things that don't last for more than a few minutes at a time - probably during classroom changes - in order to prevent chaos. I can remember that, in our 5th grade class, whenever we changed rooms, we had to get into two lines and hold hands. To me they just seem like different ways to keep order and not at all harmful.
That's part of the problem too..not being able to view your child as part of the masses...
All schools public and private, have uniforms in Australia. So I am biased, I love them.
I'm pretty sure my kids' private school which is quite strict allows for creativity and personal expression. The idea that a uniform would take that away makes no sense to me.
As if ALL THE KIDS IN AUSTRALIA are being stifled. Not to mention other countries where uniforms are policy. Sorry but this makes my eyes roll.
I think things are probably getting lost in tone. I'm already depressed and thin-skinned because dh and I are fighting right now, but I'm really bummed that two people I really respected think poorly of me.