Maybe not publicly, ever, but privately, there will be some suggestion of whether or not she should have been more aware of the pressures Josh was under, of the issues he was facing, and how she could have better counseled him or helped him," says the source. ******** When xh and I were in the middle of his merh relapse, I'm sure there were folks in our congregation who thought that I was responsible for the relapse ... Grrrr ... for all of the reasons listed above. Smh
I can DD the quote but hugs! I went through the same. My own father told me I was responsible for XHs substance abuse problems and I know his family (all southern baptist) felt the same.
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
So, let's just say it's bizarro day and Anna does decide to leave him. An early Christmas miracle or something.
What happens to her in the church? Is she shunned? What about the kids? Has divorce NEVER happened in this community?
Aren't they sort of their own church? I believe JBob founded the church of the Holy Basement so I feel like the idea of the family's congregation has to be decently small and insular.
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
3) They engage in blanket training. Babies are placed on a blanket on the floor and if they roll or crawl off, they are punished. Michelle has also admitted to striking the children if chores are not done to her standards.
Wtf? Im just surprised that so far, none of these kids have become serial killers. They have to be seriously emotionally damaged at the very least.
So, let's just say it's bizarro day and Anna does decide to leave him. An early Christmas miracle or something.
What happens to her in the church? Is she shunned? What about the kids? Has divorce NEVER happened in this community?
I think severe physical harm/abuse is cause for divorce. But still somewhat controversial.
Anna's family would likely not support her leaving. It would reflect on them.
Oh yeah. They are creepy creepers. Her father's comments before Josh & Anna got married were about how Anna was property and Anna's mum was the definition of a submissive wife. Honestly, I don't think any of them got the full story of Josh molesting people but if they did I'd guess the dad knew and didn't tell Anna or his wife.
Anna has one sister who got pregnant outside of marriage and, from what I recall on Free Jinger, is pretty isolated from the rest of her family. I hope to God she goes up to Anna and drags her & her babies into the real world for real therapy, educations, etc. Not going to happen, but I wish it would.
As far as the family blaming Anna, OF COURSE they're going to blame her. Josh looks bad enough as it is. They're going to do whatever they can to shift blame away from him.
As much as I loathe the Duggars and everything they stand for, the "blame the woman for the man's affair" bit is hardly limited to right-wing Christians. My husband did his best to blame me for his affair(s)- I gained weight, I didn't want to have sex often enough or in a kinky enough fashion for him, I was too wrapped up in taking care of the kids and the house, or I was a bad housekeeper and the house wasn't clean enough, or I wasn't working full-time outside the home at the time so I wasn't intellectually stimulating, or I didn't spend enough time making myself look good for him. Men screw around and then blame women for their failings because it's easier than looking in the mirror and accepting that they're complete and total assholes. It's easier to blame someone else than admit you did a really horrible thing or are a terrible person.
I hope that Anna has support from HER family, and that they aren't nearly as narrow-minded as the Duggars. I hope that she's able to stand up for herself and act in her own best interests and not let Josh walk all over her, humiliate her, and beat her down emotionally. I'm guessing odds are against that being the case as any sane person would have helped her leave when it came out that he molested his sisters.
3) They engage in blanket training. Babies are placed on a blanket on the floor and if they roll or crawl off, they are punished. Michelle has also admitted to striking the children if chores are not done to her standards.
Wtf? Im just surprised that so far, none of these kids have become serial killers. They have to be seriously emotionally damaged at the very least.
The Duggars at one point linked Michael and Debbie Pearl's book "Train Up a Child" on their website under parenting books. The Pearl's methods caused the deaths of several children and advise such tidbits as using a length of hose to swat your kid because it won't leave marks.
Post by Queen Mamadala on Aug 20, 2015 20:56:00 GMT -5
And it's comical, yet not surprising that the few IFB, SB and other right-wing "friends" that remain on my FB, the people I was close to when I was IFB, are silent, tight-lipped. Because they know the sanctimonious speeches about family values and moral rightness, to a legalistic extreme, is downright bullshit. The hypocrisy within these fundamentalist sects and cults is glaring, and they should know their image of wholesome goodness and godliness is a sham.
I've been wondering if my father is going to chime in or regurgitate his usual IFB mumbo-jumbo. Nothing to say so far.
And it's comical, yet not surprising that the few IFB, SB and other right-wing "friends" that remain on my FB, the people I was close to when I was IFB, are silent, tight-lipped. Because they know the sanctimonious speeches about family values and moral rightness, to a legalistic extreme, is downright bullshit. The hypocrisy within these fundamentalist sects and cults is glaring, and they should know their image of wholesome goodness and godliness is a sham.
I've been wondering if my father is going to chime in or regurgitate his usual IFB mumbo-jumbo. Nothing to say so far.
I am, similarly, seeing no comment from my ATI/IFB family members.
Duh, she has to abide by JOY: Jesus first, others second, yourself last. She's a woman. She is meant to serve her husband. She thinks she was too focused on herself and not enough on Jesus and others, so OF COURSE her response isn't what would bring HER happiness.
It's opposite day! Literally everything she has been taught and everything she knows is convincing her to stay with him. She's been well-trained to ignore her basic instinct, which, ideally, would be to grab her babies and run in the opposite direction.
This is pretty much exactly what I was taught growing up, and it is extremely hard for me to break away from.
So, let's just say it's bizarro day and Anna does decide to leave him. An early Christmas miracle or something.
What happens to her in the church? Is she shunned? What about the kids? Has divorce NEVER happened in this community?
Aren't they sort of their own church? I believe JBob founded the church of the Holy Basement so I feel like the idea of the family's congregation has to be decently small and insular.
I can DD the quote but hugs! I went through the same. My own father told me I was responsible for XHs substance abuse problems and I know his family (all southern baptist) felt the same.
Heh. Funny - I was engaged to my high school sweetheart (a Southern Baptist preacher's kid) and he broke it off. He continued to string me along but didn't want the emotional attachment - just the sex. I finally put my foot down which led to him stalking me and then somehow his daddy's church was under the impression that I was the heartbreaker in the situation.
3) They engage in blanket training. Babies are placed on a blanket on the floor and if they roll or crawl off, they are punished. Michelle has also admitted to striking the children if chores are not done to her standards.
Wtf? Im just surprised that so far, none of these kids have become serial killers. They have to be seriously emotionally damaged at the very least.
She could easily write a tell all book after leaving and be set for life.
And she could have a life after duggars tv series that would probably garner a lot of interest.
And if she really wanted to cash in, she could go on the speaking circuit speaking out against cults, brainwashing, and the importance of a real education.
I have to quit reading this stuff, it brings back to much crap. ExH grew up Amish but left the church before we got married. The thought processes are so similar. I was told many times that if I had just been a better wife he wouldn't have cheated.
3) They engage in blanket training. Babies are placed on a blanket on the floor and if they roll or crawl off, they are punished. Michelle has also admitted to striking the children if chores are not done to her standards.
Wtf? Im just surprised that so far, none of these kids have become serial killers. They have to be seriously emotionally damaged at the very least.
I am sure they are. I am assuming that the girls (especially) have zero self worth--especially given what their religious beliefs are. They then go on to physically abuse their own kids, etc., etc.
Some friends and I were speculating about the tell-all book Anna could write and we got chastised by my friend's mom who is also on FB (note - moving her to "acquaintance" now!!). The mom asked "where is your humanity for Anna and her children through all this?"
Here was the discussion that prompted her disdain, which I think is right up CEP's alley:
And it could be fun to play "What Should Anna Duggar Title Her Book?" Unlike · 2 · Yesterday at 1:39pm
So I married a sociopath... Unlike · 2 · Yesterday at 2:04pm
So I married into a family of Frauds Like · Yesterday at 2:06pm
I Kissed Courting Goodbye Unlike · 1 · Yesterday at 2:09pm
Courting With Disaster Like · 2 · Yesterday at 2:14pm
How courting and living by many rules protects your heart and keeps you from sin...
Oh wait. Nevermind. Unlike · 2 · Yesterday at 2:15pm
Courting an incestuous pedophile: foreshadowing of infidelity Like · 2 · Yesterday at 2:15pm
Josh's book - "19 sins and counting : a journey into the forgiving arms of Jesus" Like 4
Some friends and I were speculating about the tell-all book Anna could write and we got chastised by my friend's mom who is also on FB (note - moving her to "acquaintance" now!!). The mom asked "where is your humanity for Anna and her children through all this?"
Here was the discussion that prompted her disdain, which I think is right up CEP's alley:
And it could be fun to play "What Should Anna Duggar Title Her Book?" Unlike · 2 · Yesterday at 1:39pm
So I married a sociopath... Unlike · 2 · Yesterday at 2:04pm
So I married into a family of Frauds Like · Yesterday at 2:06pm
I Kissed Courting Goodbye Unlike · 1 · Yesterday at 2:09pm
Courting With Disaster Like · 2 · Yesterday at 2:14pm
How courting and living by many rules protects your heart and keeps you from sin...
Oh wait. Nevermind. Unlike · 2 · Yesterday at 2:15pm
Courting an incestuous pedophile: foreshadowing of infidelity Like · 2 · Yesterday at 2:15pm
Josh's book - "19 sins and counting : a journey into the forgiving arms of Jesus" Like 4