People who are falling over themselves over the pope visit. I don't get it. Especially when you consider yourself to be a liberal and non Catholic.
His views don't aline with yours but you are worshipping his visit. Calling him cute. Look at his cute fiat. "I'm not catholic but I really like this pope" :/ the Catholic religion is still against abortion and gay. He's a puppet and he's playing you all.
Sorry if your Catholic.
I was raised Catholic-lite. I have to say, I respect the attitude this pope has on many issues and is taking a stand on on SOME social issues that is different than how the church normally speaks on these issues. It's really refreshing to see that, especially since the last pope was stuck in the dark ages. I like him, for a Pope. I really like him, for a Pope.
HOWEVER-he's still Catholic and does against two things I feel very strongly against and until the Pope and the church change their point of view on those, which obviously they won't. I don't think he's trying to "get one over on us". I think he genuinely cares about certain social issues and certain ones like gay marriage and abortion go against his beliefs. I don't like it, but it is what it is. He's not like "OMG THE GAY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HELL!" like some Christians. He's like "hey, I'm the Pope. Here's my stance." Are we ever going to see eye to eye on that? Nope. But I don't think he has some evil adgenda and he's rubbing his hands together like "HAHAHA people of the world! FOOLED YOU!"
I can respect him and like him, and still find his Fiat cute, but I don't have to fall all over him. I have very good friends that are Catholic. I don't think they're puppets playing us. They have their views, I have mine, I still love them as people. THough now that I think about it-many of my catholic friends are still pro gay marriage and pro choice...lol.
My flameful is that I've kind of rekindled things with Vegas. I'm doing it a little differently this time around, making sure to continue to see other people and all that jazz...but he seems more in it this time around, so I guess that's good.
Good for u! How was he able to come around this time? Something change on his end?
Re: the pope...I'm in the position that I couldn't care less about the guy beyond his generally humanity. I see him as a most likely good person, no more-no less. But I heard on bill maher, who isn't exactly unbiased on religious matters, that one of the priests who was pretty instrumental in covering up sex abuse was invited, open arms, to welcome the pope. If this is true, then huge side eye to the pope. You can't say you condemn what happened while hanging out with a person who was in part responsible for the cover-up. I do like the pope for pointing out the comically laughable stance Catholic conservative republicans take on social issues. They get to spout off how they are anti-choice and anti-gay because of the church, but when their policies contradict the church re: climate change its all "pope should stay out of politics"
My flameful is that I've kind of rekindled things with Vegas. I'm doing it a little differently this time around, making sure to continue to see other people and all that jazz...but he seems more in it this time around, so I guess that's good.
Good for u! How was he able to come around this time? Something change on his end?
Some things have changed...but I take that with a grain of salt because in the end, it wasn't the ex-gf working with him, it was that he didn't/couldn't get over her, so while she may not be in his life anymore physically, who can say that means she's not there mentally/emotionally. I'm going forward pretty cautiously. We've been a lot less physical, more friendly, which had been nice.
Post by jojoandleo on Sept 25, 2015 14:14:14 GMT -5
I have no cares for the pope. I applaud the changes he HAS made, but I'm still not rushing out to shake hands with someone who I disagree with on many issues and who may have turned a blind eye to molestation.
I like the pope if only for him making it very apparent that the Christian agenda isn't that Christian at all and they are just gonna keep denying climate change and refusing refugees. I like that they got called out.
I got back on Okcupid today. Got this amazing message.
"I'd get you pregnant."
What.the.fuck
Well then! What are you still doing here?!
My possible flameful is that I've had just about all I can take of DH's withdrawal from chewing tobacco. I knew it was going to be hard, and that he was going to be kind of temperamental, and for the most part it hasn't been as bad as I thought it was going to be. The times he does lash out, apparently I'm just supposed let it go, with no kind of apology or thanks for not punching him in the crotch. Tonight I didn't make dinner. I don't cook for people I'm not currently speaking to.