NH lawmakers make crude responses to report on proposed bill

[redheadbaker]

Sorry, it's Salon. I googled, but couldn't find more neutral. Can't PIP the screen shots of the comments.

www.salon.com/2015/12/31/the_gops_nipple_ban_the_war_on_women_gets_personal_and_even_more_hateful_in_new_hampshire/

The GOP’s nipple ban: The war on women gets personal — and even more hateful — in New Hampshire

The Republican war on women is mostly focused on trying to control what women do with the parts below the belt, but in New Hampshire, that urge to put conservative men in charge of lady bodies has drifted upwards, focusing on the nipple. Republican men in the state legislature, clearly having nothing better to do with their time than worry about what strangers do with their boobies, recently proposed a bill banning women from having exposed nipples in public.

As reported by Mark Stern at Slate, this bit of government overreach annoyed Democratic state legislator Amanda Bouldin, who took to Facebook on Tuesday to express said annoyance.

Republican representative Josh Moore, one of the sponsors of the bill, reacted to Bouldin’s post with some old-fashioned sexual harassment, which he appears to have quickly deleted. Sadly for him, however, one of the commenters on Bouldin’s Facebook page got a screenshot.

Moore, I suspect, does not think he should be forced to wear a hood in public to earn the right not to be tweaked on the nose. But apparently women’s bodies are public property.

Unsurprisingly, Moore’s deep interest in controlling what women do with their bodies isn’t limited to the nipple. His Facebook profile shows that he’s also an avid hater of Planned Parenthood, an organization whose work in allowing women of all income levels to enjoy some measure of sexual autonomy has drawn the endless ire of the right.

Moore quickly deleted the sexually harassing tweet — it’s hard to maintain the facade that your obsessive desire to control women isn’t rooted in misogyny when you do stuff like that — but then he tried another tactic: Waxing poetic about how women are basically children.

Honestly, I don’t know where feminists get this idea that anti-choice ideology is rooted in a hostility towards women’s sexuality. It’s clearly about “life,” which is extinguished every time a woman’s nipple is exposed to the cold air of a New Hampshire morning.

It was not just Josh Moore who popped up in comments on Bouldin’s thread. Another Republican, state representative Al Baldasaro, had to weigh in.

Welcome to the conservative movement, 2015, where a man feels entitled to label others with the word “pervert” and crow about his “family values” while simultaneously making sure that everyone, whether they want to know or not, is well-informed about his dick’s opinion of some random woman who never asked him to assess her attractiveness. If you want to know why Donald Trump is doing so well in the polls, there’s your answer.

Stern reached out to Bouldin, who reasserted that her issue with this is not that she is a “pervert” or that she has some notion that her nipple will be an irresistible lure to entrap her Republican colleagues, but simply that she doesn’t like double standards. “We shouldn’t be introducing new legislation that only applies to women,” she told Stern.

For the rest of us, this is an object lesson in why we should be grateful for the politics of state legislatures. National Republicans get lessons in how to manipulate their language so that attacks on women’s rights are portrayed as defenses of “life” or “religious liberty” or “small government.” But on that local level, you get an unvarnished reminder that it’s all just a bunch of people, mostly men, who think lady bodies are gross, female sexuality is terrifying, and that women cannot be trusted to make basic decisions about their own bodies and need conservative men to do all their thinking for them.

[asdfjkl]

I mean, it's biased, but... it's true?

Also, holy illiteracy, bahtmin.  Moore needs to either proofread or invest in some serious tutoring.  

[cattledogkisses]

I think we should organize a CEP brigade to run topless through Moore's front yard.

[tacosforlife]

Dec 31, 2015 13:33:08 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

I mean, it's biased, but... it's true?

Also, holy illiteracy, bahtmin.  Moore needs to either proofread or invest in some serious tutoring.  

The other rep's comment wasn't any better. Jesus.

[josieposy]

Is there some plague of non-BF-related nipple flashing going on in NH that necessitated this bill?

[asdfjkl]

Here are the two FB posts:






I just... like... holy shit.

[NewOrleans]

This is some sort of bizarro anti-breastfeeding in public item, yes? It's unclear here.

Really, it is spot on to say that there should not be legislation that applies only to restricting women.

This is so weird.

[asdfjkl]

Dec 31, 2015 13:35:18 GMT -5 cattledogkisses said:

I think we should organize a CEP brigade to run topless through Moore's front yard.

I think we should troll his FB page.

[jln]

That is fucking disgusting. Yes, a woman feeding a baby is totally reason for her to be sexually assaulted. How the hell can someone be pro-life and not support breastfeeding? Oh wait, it has nothing to do with "life", only misogyny and control. This makes me boil over with rage.

[josieposy]

Just skimmed the bill. Here is an excerpt:

(b) Such person purposely exposes his or her anus or, if a woman, purposely exposes the areola or nipple of her breast or breasts in a public place and in the presence of another person with reckless disregard for whether a reasonable person would be offended or alarmed by such act.
2 New Paragraph; Public Indecency; Indecent Exposure and Lewdness; Breast-Feeding Excluded. Amend RSA 645:1 by inserting after paragraph III the following new paragraph:

So there's a plague of anus flashing too?

[jln]

Dec 31, 2015 13:46:54 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Dec 31, 2015 13:35:18 GMT -5 cattledogkisses said:

I think we should organize a CEP brigade to run topless through Moore's front yard.

I think we should troll his FB page.

I hope local women are staging a nurse-in on his sidewalk.  

[asdfjkl]

Is BFing exempted in the law.  I mean, I don't understand the law.  Is it anti-BF, or is it just like this super random law that is intended to curtail some kind of rampant nipple flashing thing that is going on only in NH?  And wouldn't public nudity of breasts if you aren't nursing fall under existing gender-neutral indecent exposure laws?  I just...  

[josieposy]

Josh's Twitter is @thekingomman.

The other guy is al_Baldasaro

If anyone is interested.....

[asdfjkl]

Dec 31, 2015 13:50:21 GMT -5 josieposy said:

Just skimmed the bill. Here is an excerpt:

(b) Such person purposely exposes his or her anus or, if a woman, purposely exposes the areola or nipple of her breast or breasts in a public place and in the presence of another person with reckless disregard for whether a reasonable person would be offended or alarmed by such act.
2 New Paragraph; Public Indecency; Indecent Exposure and Lewdness; Breast-Feeding Excluded. Amend RSA 645:1 by inserting after paragraph III the following new paragraph:

So there's a plague of anus flashing too?

[redheadbaker]

Dec 31, 2015 13:54:40 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Is BFing exempted in the law.  I mean, I don't understand the law.  Is it anti-BF, or is it just like this super random law that is intended to curtail some kind of rampant nipple flashing thing that is going on only in NH?  And wouldn't public nudity of breasts if you aren't nursing fall under existing gender-neutral indecent exposure laws?  I just...  

Yes, NIP is excluded, which makes this proposed law even more WTF.

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JFC.

[asdfjkl]

Dec 31, 2015 13:56:25 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Dec 31, 2015 13:54:40 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Is BFing exempted in the law.  I mean, I don't understand the law.  Is it anti-BF, or is it just like this super random law that is intended to curtail some kind of rampant nipple flashing thing that is going on only in NH?  And wouldn't public nudity of breasts if you aren't nursing fall under existing gender-neutral indecent exposure laws?  I just...  

Yes, NIP is excluded, which makes this proposed law even more WTF.

I want to know what is happening in NH that the GOP feels they need a special law to stop women from showing their aureolas and nipples, and for folks to stop showing their anuses. 

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Dec 31, 2015 13:58:58 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Dec 31, 2015 13:56:25 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Yes, NIP is excluded, which makes this proposed law even more WTF.

I want to know what is happening in NH that the GOP feels they need a special law to stop women from showing their aureolas and nipples, and for folks to stop showing their anuses. 

Right? I thought it was cold in NH like, all the time. Why are people exposing private parts?

[josieposy]

I'm in MN and I can see two assholes from here.

Officers, arrest those men!

[asdfjkl]

Dec 31, 2015 14:02:54 GMT -5 josieposy said:

I'm in MN and I can see two assholes from here.

Officers, arrest those men!

Shut it down, folks.  We have a winner.

[cattledogkisses]

There are pervs out there all right, but I'm pretty sure they're these lawmakers.

[NewOrleans]

Dec 31, 2015 13:46:54 GMT -5 asdfjkl said:

Dec 31, 2015 13:35:18 GMT -5 cattledogkisses said:

I think we should troll his FB page.

Who remembers this one?!?!

[ESF]

Those tweets.

OMFG.